JM2009 Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 I think the media is making up the Whaley BS especially the BN When the BN wants to grind an ax they know they can depend upon a group of Bills fans to lap it up, so they spoon feed you Why would you want Whaley to be retained?
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 Because it's simply not true. Doug is the GM he does personal. Our new coach coaches. Show me where are new coach is in charge of drafting. It's a complete fabrication of the Buffalo news media. It's simply not true. Terry said so in his last interview. I see some are still having trouble understanding the nature of collaborative efforts. Perhaps nothing exemplifies that more than the NFL draft. Im saving my breath (typing) until the end of next week, when Doug will still be employed by the Bills. Some folks just love to eat the crap the dummies at TBN spew, and are convinced a HC who hasnt even coached a down yet is now in charge of everything. It makes no sense, but it gives them a whipping boy in Whaley. Not worth arguing because there is no changing their minds. Only thing we can do is sit and wait for reality to happen.
PromoTheRobot Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 McDermott had to sign off and Whaley will be gone after draft Don't bogart that joint.
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 I don't care what we are calling him, GM vs ball boy, he's just as active as he was pre-McD and he's receiving a paycheck commensurate of a GM. He's never had absolute final say and neither does McD. Pegs meddles. He has the final say. As for Whaley, even in his current capacity, neutered or not, he still does good work, especially with pro personnel. If he wants to walk, he's going to have to quit and Pegs will be off the hook for his salary. Given Pegs and Whaleys MO I find it hard to believe they would have traded back. There is no way I don't see both of these guys wanting to do something flashy with the 10th pick. I'm not saying Whaley isn't in charge. I'm just saying that McDermott had a major influence. Isn't it obvious that' Rex had a major influence on the draft while he was here? Our drafts with Rex looked just like the Jets drafts with him.
Dopey Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 Exactly as it should be. GM and HC have to work in concert. Can someone tell this to Sully?
26CornerBlitz Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 Can someone tell this to Sully? He knows, but he's on a crusade.
Mr. WEO Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 all rumors. I heard it from Terry's own mouth a few weeks ago. Doug is not going anywhere he just signed him to a 4 year contract. Stop embarrassing your self. Love the hate by Bills media & Buffalo News but it's just wishful thinking. Doug has final say so over the draft and building the Roster. So says Terry with the 4 year contract he gave him. Sure they work together but Doug is the guy who makes the final decision on who to draft and what guys to sign as free agents and undrafted rookies. What don't you understand about this. He has Terry's authoritie to do it along with his new 4 year contract. Our new coach is no one yet. He is a rookie no way he has final say so. Doug does not answer to him only to Terry. Just like the coach he answers to Terry and Kim. Stop listening to WGR and the Buffalo news. Go watch Terry's last interview Wait, a "new" 4 year contract, you say? It was signed almost 16 months ago.... You are an embarrassment for listening to WGR and the Buffalo News. Next you be quoting Bills news from the National inquirier. Go back and listen to the guy who owns the team. Listen to what he says out of his own mouth. That's the truth stop embarrassing you self with these rumors You mean like when he said this in the middle of last season?: “Our coach needs to know that, through the good and the bad, there’s stability. The players need to know there’s stability,” Pegula said. “And by the way, that doesn’t help our players any to start reading that their coach is going to get fired.”
Dopey Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 Exactly as it should be. GM and HC have to work in concert. Can someone tell this to Sully?
QCity Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 Right. After four years of working under the modus operandi of instant gratification, Doug "Win Now" Whaley -- with his job seemingly in jeopardy -- does a complete 180 and decides to start building for the future. Sure. I don't know what's more entertaining -- the draft, or the Doug Whaley apologists trying to convince themselves that he's still calling the shots. If somebody wants to set the odds on how many times we hear the word "collaborative" in the next month, I would like to bet the over.
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 Right. After four years of working under the modus operandi of instant gratification, Doug "Win Now" Whaley -- with his job seemingly in jeopardy -- does a complete 180 and decides to start building for the future. Sure. I don't know what's more entertaining -- the draft, or the Doug Whaley apologists trying to convince themselves that he's still calling the shots. If somebody wants to set the odds on how many times we hear the word "collaborative" in the next month, I would like to bet the over. You mean like when he traded down when he was picking a QB in 2013? The team was different in 2014 and 2015. They had a top D assembled and just needed to get the offense to click. Rex was supposed to pick up where Marrone left off. It was much more a win-now scenario than when they bring in a new HC and re-vamp the culture and team.
wilcoam Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 No matter how many times our owner, GM, and HC tell the fans and the media that they have a unique structure whereby they make group decisions folks have to make up their own experts narrative how it works, lol Again, all their off season moves are made together, the trades, the draft selections, the cuts, and the signings, but if you still feel the need to attribute each move to someone, feel free, but then you have a misunderstanding how they actually work, just saying... But yes if at some point our owner feels there would be a better partnership by replacing someone on the team he will do so, but remember that new person will have to work with the Pegs structure, in terms of a new GM, that will greatly restrict interest... jc
cd1 Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 Im saving my breath (typing) until the end of next week, when Doug will still be employed by the Bills. Some folks just love to eat the crap the dummies at TBN spew, and are convinced a HC who hasnt even coached a down yet is now in charge of everything. It makes no sense, but it gives them a whipping boy in Whaley. Not worth arguing because there is no changing their minds. Only thing we can do is sit and wait for reality to happen. Amen! Notice that there are a few here who are already beginning to sell nails for McDermott's coffin - my dear GOD!
Watching since 1964 Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 http://www.rochesterfirst.com/sports/nfl/nfl-buffalo/mcdermott-preps-for-his-first-draft/695114050 McDermott preps for his first draft Question remains, who gets the final say? By: Dan Fetes Posted: Apr 20, 2017 04:49 PM EDT Updated: Apr 20, 2017 04:49 PM EDT Orchard Park - With all the change in the Bills organization over the last few months, one thing remains the same. Who gets the final say? First year head coach Sean McDermott is preparing for his first draft and addressed the media today and NOT general manager Doug Whaley. While McDermott confirmed that Whaley has complete control of the 53 man roster it was unclear as to who gets the final call in the war room on draft night. McDermott added that owner Terry Pegula will have also have a voice in the decision on picks but said that the final call will come down to Whaley and himself. But what if they disagree? McDermott's answer seemed unclear. "At the end of the day we agree at the end of it all. That's what we do. Iron sharpens iron at the end of the day, so we say this is how I feel, this is how you feel and we hammer it out, if it takes all day. Thats what great teams do they have healthy conversation and they continue to hammer things out because at the end of the day if you do that you come to the right decision for the football team." The problem is the Bills wont have 'all day' to agree. Whoever makes the final call and whenever that decision is made McDermott wants their draft pick to be like his vehicle. "If you go out in the parking lot and look at my car and the type of car I drive I think you'll see I'm not into flash. I drive a pick up truck but I like to put armor-all on the tires every once in a while also right. We're going to pick a guy for the right seasons where there's flash on him whether there's armor-all on those tires or not is a bonus I guess," said McDermott.
K-9 Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 Im saving my breath (typing) until the end of next week, when Doug will still be employed by the Bills. Some folks just love to eat the crap the dummies at TBN spew, and are convinced a HC who hasnt even coached a down yet is now in charge of everything. It makes no sense, but it gives them a whipping boy in Whaley. Not worth arguing because there is no changing their minds. Only thing we can do is sit and wait for reality to happen. While that's the only rational position to take, I am fully aware that people will still insist on their own reality. http://www.rochesterfirst.com/sports/nfl/nfl-buffalo/mcdermott-preps-for-his-first-draft/695114050 McDermott preps for his first draft Question remains, who gets the final say? By: Dan Fetes Posted: Apr 20, 2017 04:49 PM EDT Updated: Apr 20, 2017 04:49 PM EDT Orchard Park - With all the change in the Bills organization over the last few months, one thing remains the same. Who gets the final say? First year head coach Sean McDermott is preparing for his first draft and addressed the media today and NOT general manager Doug Whaley. While McDermott confirmed that Whaley has complete control of the 53 man roster it was unclear as to who gets the final call in the war room on draft night. McDermott added that owner Terry Pegula will have also have a voice in the decision on picks but said that the final call will come down to Whaley and himself. But what if they disagree? McDermott's answer seemed unclear. "At the end of the day we agree at the end of it all. That's what we do. Iron sharpens iron at the end of the day, so we say this is how I feel, this is how you feel and we hammer it out, if it takes all day. Thats what great teams do they have healthy conversation and they continue to hammer things out because at the end of the day if you do that you come to the right decision for the football team." The problem is the Bills wont have 'all day' to agree. Whoever makes the final call and whenever that decision is made McDermott wants their draft pick to be like his vehicle. "If you go out in the parking lot and look at my car and the type of car I drive I think you'll see I'm not into flash. I drive a pick up truck but I like to put armor-all on the tires every once in a while also right. We're going to pick a guy for the right seasons where there's flash on him whether there's armor-all on those tires or not is a bonus I guess," said McDermott. Yep. And while McDermott was addressing the media, Whaley was working the phones and laying the groundwork for potential deals, like the one consummated last night. You know, like a real GM does at this time of year. Something tells me Whaley is relieved not to have to deal with some of the bozos passing themselves off as reporters in the Buffalo media.
JM2009 Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 While that's the only rational position to take, I am fully aware that people will still insist on their own reality. Yep. And while McDermott was addressing the media, Whaley was working the phones and laying the groundwork for potential deals, like the one consummated last night. You know, like a real GM does at this time of year. Something tells me Whaley is relieved not to have to deal with some of the bozos passing themselves off as reporters in the Buffalo media. How dare the media or fans question anything OBD does. They are the model for every other NFL organization to follow. Just look at the results. SMH
K-9 Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 How dare the media or fans question anything OBD does. They are the model for every other NFL organization to follow. Just look at the results. SMH Sorry, Jerry.
26CornerBlitz Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 How dare the media or fans question anything OBD does. They are the model for every other NFL organization to follow. Just look at the results. SMH They're neither the best nor the worst. Here's to stability and a vision they can execute towards being a successful franchise on a consistent basis.
JM2009 Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 Sorry, Jerry. Point proven. They're neither the best nor the worst. Here's to stability and a vision they can execute towards being a successful franchise on a consistent basis. I think the Pegulas got it right with McDermott. I think they also should have emptied the management of anything RW. The results speak for themselves. But some continue to genuflect at everything the old regime does, despite the results.
Scott7975 Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) People are trying to prove Whaley is in charge like it's a good thing? The guy hasn't had a draft pick work out for this team yet. This is his 5th draft. Edited April 28, 2017 by Scott7975
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