OldTimer1960 Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Um, I would expect that Kizer will be around until possibly the 3rd or 4th round. He's not even close to being ready to start. Essentially, he's this year's Cardale Jones. I think that Kizer has much more experience and more likely to succeed than Cardale Jones. I would of be surprised if he snuck into late 1st, but would be very surprised if he lasts beyond 2nd
iinii Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Some just don't get it...The 90s teams has so much talent...can't pass on star playersJimmy Johnson did well trading down speaking of the Ninties.
WGBillsFan Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 With this draft being deep with the positions we need....I would move down and get extra picks and still can get quality players.
Bronxbomber21 Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Â @RapSheetthat's to far back for my liking that move would have to land us pick 31, 2rd, 4th, 1st Rd 2018 Â Â Â Â Â Â Â One team plotting a potential move up: The #Falcons, who pick No. 31. One team plotting a potential move down: The #Bills, who pick No. 10.
ndirish1978 Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Um, I would expect that Kizer will be around until possibly the 3rd or 4th round. He's not even close to being ready to start. Essentially, he's this year's Cardale Jones.  Except Kizer is a 2 year starter who didn't lose his starting job after starting a handful of games. Other than that they are exactly the same.  So you're ok with letting other teams take top talent while we're left with table scraps who will barely make the roster? Yes, because if there is ANYTHING that has been said about this draft it is NOT that it is one of the deepest drafts in recent memory. The more you post the more certain I am that you don't actually watch football.  Actually I said it before Leroi Someone REALLY wants credit for this speculation  Davis, Howard, or Trade Down.  Yes please  Yep. Who needs elite talent, when you can have a boatload of picks to spend on table scraps that might just barely make the roster? I see you come from the school of "if I repeat the same phrase over and over my point will make more sense"
Rodrigo Borgia Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017  Except Kizer is a 2 year starter who didn't lose his starting job after starting a handful of games. Other than that they are exactly the same.  Yes, because if there is ANYTHING that has been said about this draft it is NOT that it is one of the deepest drafts in recent memory. The more you post the more certain I am that you don't actually watch football.  Someone REALLY wants credit for this speculation   Yes please  I see you come from the school of "if I repeat the same phrase over and over my point will make more sense" When I compared Kizer to Jones, I was saying that, like Jones, Kizer is a long-term project who needs a lot of work. Even Brian Kelly himself has gone on the record saying that Kizer made a mistake when he declared for this Draft.
ndirish1978 Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Except that's not what he said. He said he is not a finished product, he did not say he is a project QB, which is what Cardale is. Kizer could start after a year on the bench, Cardale doesn't even have fundamental skills down. Completely different quarterbacks
Bills Fan of St Augustine Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Jimmy Johnson did well trading down speaking of the Ninties. Jimmy did well trading Hershel Walker for a boat load of picks
26CornerBlitz Posted April 27, 2017 Author Posted April 27, 2017 Â @RapSheetthat's to far back for my liking that move would have to land us pick 31, 2rd, 4th, 1st Rd 2018 Â Â Â Â Â Â Â One team plotting a potential move up: The #Falcons, who pick No. 31. One team plotting a potential move down: The #Bills, who pick No. 10. Â Â The Bills would get quite a haul for moving down that far.
Bronxbomber21 Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Â The Bills would get quite a haul for moving down that far. There 1st ,2nd, 1st next season at least
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 There 1st ,2nd, 1st next season at least I want more then that
xRUSHx Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) Except that's not what he said. He said he is not a finished product, he did not say he is a project QB, which is what Cardale is. Kizer could start after a year on the bench, Cardale doesn't even have fundamental skills down. Completely different quarterbacks I agree 100%.I also think Kizer could start year 2 or even the end of 2017, CJ isn't close to even being a backup in this league in my opinion. Edited April 27, 2017 by xRUSHx
oldmanfan Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Move down and get more picks. It's a deep draft in areas where we have need like DB.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 I think that Kizer has much more experience and more likely to succeed than Cardale Jones. I would of be surprised if he snuck into late 1st, but would be very surprised if he lasts beyond 2nd I'm with both comments except, I think kizer is the type you'd love to see in camp competing against cardale.
BobChalmers Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) So you're ok with letting other teams take top talent while we're left with table scraps who will barely make the roster? Â Yes, b/c mid-late first rounders "are table scraps who barely make [NFL] rosters"... Move down and get more picks. It's a deep draft in areas where we have need like DB. Â Amen - I REALLY HOPE this is all true. Â Super deep at DB - less so at WR though - it would be nice to move down AND get one of the top 3 WRs. Edited April 27, 2017 by BobChalmers
Shaw66 Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 It's interesting. I listened to it and it sure sounds like they want to trade out. Two good players instead of one potentially great player.
nucci Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 It's interesting. I listened to it and it sure sounds like they want to trade out. Two good players instead of one potentially great player. you need great players to win championships
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 you need great players to win championships Id like to actually make the playoffs...then worry about championships
mannc Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) you need great players to win championshipsNewsflash: Great players are often found outside of the first 10 picks of the draft. I'm not sure NE has anyone on their roster who was selected in the top 10. Edited April 27, 2017 by mannc
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 ....anybody know when is the last time Blfo had TWO 1sts?......I sure as hell can't remember............
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