Green Lightning Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Minnesota??? Before the injury, Bridgewater was looking great. Last pick of Rd.1. Could have been a Bill but we doubled down on Sammy. Just saying we never see a F QB in the draft - other teams seem to. Quote
wppete Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 I'd be happy with Foster. He will improve the defense and it's a position that we need to fill. An important position in the defense. The Bills will have good insight from Ragland on Foster and his character. They payed together side by side on that Alabama Defense. And Ragland seems to be a good guy. I trust McDermott will do the right thing. Quote
1billsfan Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Foster has had concussion problems, so with his style of play you can never count on having him from game to game due to the concussion protocol in the NFL. They would be fools to pass on both Watson and Mahomes. Both guys are going to become franchise QBs and you'd eventually be adding them to the list of QBs that got away like Rodgers, Wilson, Carr, Prescott. Time to take another shot at the most important position. Quote
mannc Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Before the injury, Bridgewater was looking great. Last pick of Rd.1. Could have been a Bill but we doubled down on Sammy. Just saying we never see a F QB in the draft - other teams seem to. His numbers in 29 starts are not as good as Tyrod's in his first 29. Not sure how he would have been an upgrade, even without the injury. And how are you suggesting the Bills should have acquired him? Quote
Guest NeckBeard Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Before the injury, Bridgewater was looking great. Last pick of Rd.1. Could have been a Bill but we doubled down on Sammy. Just saying we never see a F QB in the draft - other teams seem to. The Bills certainly draft QBs, but have also shown a propensity for being really bad at it. I was not yet born during the team runs of the 1960s. I did get a healthy dose of Fergie (didn't like him that much), QBs after Fergie, Kelly of course, and the cabal of drafted QBs after that. I think that the Bills have perpetually suffered from ownership and FO issues, and a lack of continuity at the HC position (mostly due to horrible hires: see also FO issues), and this has lead to a huge number of terrible drafts, terrible systems, and perpetual change. All of these factors have lead to guys like, man, I can't even bring myself to mention them by name, being under center. I like the McD hire, because it seems like that kind of hire that could be good for a change. Operative word here is "could". I don't purport to have a crystal ball. I hope they draft a guy this year, and that the org hitches their wagon to him, develops him, cuddles him, nurtures him, all of that jazz. Quote
4merper4mer Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Before the injury, Bridgewater was looking great. Last pick of Rd.1. Could have been a Bill but we doubled down on Sammy. Just saying we never see a F QB in the draft - other teams seem to. So ridiculous. Didn't he go at #30 or something like that. If the Bills had selected him with our original pick people would have had the torches and pitchforks but in retrospect it would have been brilliant. How about if we picked him, he started to show promise and got the same injury? Torches and pitchforks again. Ask 32 NFL GMs right now if they could add Sammy or Teddy to their roster. Who do you think they would take? Quote
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Foster has had concussion problems, so with his style of play you can never count on having him from game to game due to the concussion protocol in the NFL. They would be fools to pass on both Watson and Mahomes. Both guys are going to become franchise QBs and you'd eventually be adding them to the list of QBs that got away like Rodgers, Wilson, Carr, Prescott. Time to take another shot at the most important position. These threads are getting predictable A shot at the proposed pick followed by "we must draft a qb" Quote
Green Lightning Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 So ridiculous. Didn't he go at #30 or something like that. If the Bills had selected him with our original pick people would have had the torches and pitchforks but in retrospect it would have been brilliant. How about if we picked him, he started to show promise and got the same injury? Torches and pitchforks again. Ask 32 NFL GMs right now if they could add Sammy or Teddy to their roster. Who do you think they would take? Right now yes. Before the injury? Different story. Besides you're getting sidetracked. The statement I reacted to was that there are "no franchise QB's in this draft. My point is we always hear that from the Bills and then see Russell Wilson and Dak, etc start and win for other teams. That's the point. Debate Bridgewater all you want. (I'd take a healthy Bridgewater over TT any day.) If you don't draft QB's you'll never get one. Quote
voodoo poonani Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Seriously? You would have to drink a sh*t ton to come up like that. The only reason people do so is to mask something, try to clear the system out. If you buy that he's guzzling gallons of water to avoid the dehydration then I got some ocean front property in Montana for sale. Not really. My ex wife missed out on a job because of a diluted sample and she was totally clean. "Failing" for that is bs. Quote
jeffismagic Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 These threads are getting predictable A shot at the proposed pick followed by "we must draft a qb" Do you think they are asking for a QB in Dallas? No, they are not. Quote
Green Lightning Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 His numbers in 29 starts are not as good as Tyrod's in his first 29. Not sure how he would have been an upgrade, even without the injury. And how are you suggesting the Bills should have acquired him? I'm suggesting the Bills should just draft a damn QB instead of passing over quality starters that other teams pick up after we pass the over because they are not franchise QB's by our FO's estimation. We'll see what the coach McD era brings us. Quote
mannc Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) I'm suggesting the Bills should just draft a damn QB instead of passing over quality starters that other teams pick up after we pass the over because they are not franchise QB's by our FO's estimation. We'll see what the coach McD era brings us.Were you happy in 2013, when the Bills "just drafted a damn QB" with their first pick? Edited April 27, 2017 by mannc Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 So ridiculous. Didn't he go at #30 or something like that. If the Bills had selected him with our original pick people would have had the torches and pitchforks but in retrospect it would have been brilliant. How about if we picked him, he started to show promise and got the same injury? Torches and pitchforks again. Ask 32 NFL GMs right now if they could add Sammy or Teddy to their roster. Who do you think they would take? The standard here is if you draft a player who gets seriously injured, it's your fault for not knowing he'd get injured. Quote
1billsfan Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) These threads are getting predictable A shot at the proposed pick followed by "we must draft a qb" It's not a shot, it's a fact that Foster has had concussion problems. Don't be upset that I felt like sharing that nothing will change until they find a QB, and they probably won't ever find that QB until they spend a high pick on one. This is the last day to say who you want them to take and you can't ever start a new thread around here without someone getting upset. Everybody needs to relax because no one here has any say as to what they are going to do. Edited April 27, 2017 by 1billsfan Quote
Wagon Circler Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Give Ragland the middle. Take Reddick for the outside. Quote
4merper4mer Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Right now yes. Before the injury? Different story. Besides you're getting sidetracked. The statement I reacted to was that there are "no franchise QB's in this draft. My point is we always hear that from the Bills and then see Russell Wilson and Dak, etc start and win for other teams. That's the point. Debate Bridgewater all you want. (I'd take a healthy Bridgewater over TT any day.) If you don't draft QB's you'll never get one. We're not hearing that from the Bills in 2017. I have not seen one thing where anyone from the Bills made any statement like that at all. In fact, I don't recall anyone from the Bills or any other team stating that about any specific QB at any point in time. We HAVE heard that from every national media outlet imaginable. We've heard it over and over and over. It doesn't make them right, but if they thought there was one there, they have every reason to state it. The Wilson selection is clearly one we could/should have made. How many other teams can say the same thing? Prescott had a fine year, especially for a 4th round pick. It wouldn't shock me if he went on and had a very good career, but it also wouldn't shock me if he had real rough sledding if Elliot went down for a time. Anointing him as a franchise QB is clearly early. BTW, what position did we select with our 4th round pick last year? Quote
Beef Jerky Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 The Bills certainly draft QBs, but have also shown a propensity for being really bad at it. I was not yet born during the team runs of the 1960s. I did get a healthy dose of Fergie (didn't like him that much), QBs after Fergie, Kelly of course, and the cabal of drafted QBs after that. I think that the Bills have perpetually suffered from ownership and FO issues, and a lack of continuity at the HC position (mostly due to horrible hires: see also FO issues), and this has lead to a huge number of terrible drafts, terrible systems, and perpetual change. All of these factors have lead to guys like, man, I can't even bring myself to mention them by name, being under center. I like the McD hire, because it seems like that kind of hire that could be good for a change. Operative word here is "could". I don't purport to have a crystal ball. I hope they draft a guy this year, and that the org hitches their wagon to him, develops him, cuddles him, nurtures him, all of that jazz. The Bills have only drafted 5 QBs since 1996, only 2 in the first round... Quote
4merper4mer Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 I'm suggesting the Bills should just draft a damn QB instead of passing over quality starters that other teams pick up after we pass the over because they are not franchise QB's by our FO's estimation. We'll see what the coach McD era brings us. Like Cardale Jones in the 4th or EJ Manuel in the first, or something different? The Bills have only drafted 5 QBs since 1996, only 2 in the first round... How many in the last 5 drafts? 20 years ago matters? Quote
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