Foxx Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) Looks like running back is a need now. So let's take a look at the large number of talented backs that will be available in the mid-to-late rounds. Ordered by overall class ranking according to CBSSports NFL Draft team. The grade in parantheses after the ranking indicate the NFL.com rating. The players' programs that the Bills visited on Pro Day is indicated. 116. (5.5) Marlon Mack, RB, USF, 5-11, 215, 4.50 40 123. (5.5) Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo, 5-10, 215, 4.62 - Pro Day 125. (5.6) Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma, 5-11, 235, 4.65 - Pro Day 129. (5.4) Wayne Gallman, RB, Clemson, 6-0, 215, 4.60 - Pro Day 140. (5.7) D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas, 6-0, 235, 4.46 - Pro Day 144. (5.3) Jamal Williams, RB, BYU, 6-0, 210, 4.59 148. (5.6) Jeremy McNichols, RB, Boise State, 5-9, 215, 4.49 - Pro Day 156. (5.2) Corey Clement, RB, Wisconsin, 5-10, 220, 4.68 - Pro Day 160. (5.4) Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming, 6-1, 220, 4.54 162. (5.4) James Conner, RB, Pittsburgh, 6-1, 235, 4.65 174. (5.3) Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State, 5-8, 175, 4.48 180. (5.4) Matthew Dayes, RB, NC State, 5-9, 205, 4.66 194. (5.3) De'Angelo Henderson, RB, Coastal Carolina, 5-7, 210, 4.48 196. (5.3) TJ Logan, RB, North Carolina, 5-9, 195, 4.37 - Pro Day 203. (5.0) Elijah McGuire, RB, Lafayette, 5-10, 215, 4.53 217. (5.4) Tarik Cohen, RB, NC A&T, 5-6, 180, 4.42 225. (5.0) Aaron Jones, RB, UTEP, 5-9, 210, 4.56 261. (4.9) De'Veon Smith, RB, Michigan, 5-11, 225, 4.85 - Pro Day 279. (5.4) Joe Williams, RB, Utah, 5-11, 210, 4.41 A lot of these guys fit the bill for big running back that would compliment Shady. D'Onta Foreman and James Conner intrigue me the most. running back is not a need now. not saying they won't take a flier on one, but we don't 'need' to draft one. we have a good stable already. I think for the Patriots, 2017 is all about redeeming 2007. They're going undefeated. after what Goodell did to Tommy last year, you can bet your ass that this is what they have in mind for the coming year. they want to shove it down Goodell's throat. Edited April 19, 2017 by Foxx
Saxum Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 running back is not a need now. not saying they won't take a flier on one, but we don't 'need' to draft one. we have a good stable already. after what Goodell did to Tommy last year, you can bet your ass that this is what they have in mind for the coming year. they want to shove it down Goodell's throat. Your boy "Tommy" did it to himself. Should change name to Fixx as games determined by cheating are called.
Foxx Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) Your boy "Tommy" did it to himself. Should change name to Fixx as games determined by cheating are called. lol. he's not my boy. i hate the Patriots almost as much as i hate the Dolphins. what i said about them wanting to shove it down Goodell's throat stands, as that is what they are wanting to do, count on it. Fixx, really? lol. Edited April 19, 2017 by Foxx
njbuff Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 Pumphrey would be the best RB in this class if he wasn't soooooooooooo small. 175 lbs for a RB is suicide.
JM2009 Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 I hope we take one in the fifth. Let's really spin those tires. Careful. Spinning wheels isn't popular in here. running back is not a need now. not saying they won't take a flier on one, but we don't 'need' to draft one. we have a good stable already. after what Goodell did to Tommy last year, you can bet your ass that this is what they have in mind for the coming year. they want to shove it down Goodell's throat. RB is very much a need since we lost a very good one.
without a drought Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 Jamaal Williams out of BYU, Joe Williams from Utah or Stanley "Boom" Williams from Kentucky. They are starting to run low on players named Williams, Kyle won't be around forever and I just read that Jonathan Williams is officially a bust in another thread. It's shortsightedness like this that has led to years of failure, you can't just wait till the last minute or after the effect and end up having to sign some guy named Williams off the street.
BillsFan17 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) I wouldnt be surprised if Buffalo drafted a RB, but don't forget, we had Karlos a late round pick before we picked Mike up off the street. So we could go late round, or FA route. Williams who we drafted two years back could climb the depth chart, or buffalo could wait and see if there are cuts and possibly land a spell back that way. Edited April 20, 2017 by BillsFan17
Dorkington Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 If Shady goes down, we would be left with Williams (who has shown nothing to convince me he will even make the team) and Tolbert. Maybe a rookie if we draft one late. We would be in the same position as last year with the WR's. Y ou need depth in the NFL. MG is great depth. We lose him, it will hurt the team. The Bills haven't believed in depth in a very long time.
Bronxbomber21 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 Samaje Perine is not going to be available in the 4th or later.
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 I'm all in on Saquan Barkley next year. He is McCoy's eventual replacement imo.
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 Even without Gillislee we don't need to draft a RB. We have Shady, Williams and Tolbert. How many touches are there to go around? Don't waste a pick, just sign a Udfa incase of injuries or to fill out the preseason and camp
BADOLBILZ Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 Looks like running back is a need now. So let's take a look at the large number of talented backs that will be available in the mid-to-late rounds. Ordered by overall class ranking according to CBSSports NFL Draft team. The grade in parantheses after the ranking indicate the NFL.com rating. The players' programs that the Bills visited on Pro Day is indicated. 116. (5.5) Marlon Mack, RB, USF, 5-11, 215, 4.50 40 123. (5.5) Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo, 5-10, 215, 4.62 - Pro Day 125. (5.6) Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma, 5-11, 235, 4.65 - Pro Day 129. (5.4) Wayne Gallman, RB, Clemson, 6-0, 215, 4.60 - Pro Day 140. (5.7) D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas, 6-0, 235, 4.46 - Pro Day 144. (5.3) Jamal Williams, RB, BYU, 6-0, 210, 4.59 148. (5.6) Jeremy McNichols, RB, Boise State, 5-9, 215, 4.49 - Pro Day 156. (5.2) Corey Clement, RB, Wisconsin, 5-10, 220, 4.68 - Pro Day 160. (5.4) Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming, 6-1, 220, 4.54 162. (5.4) James Conner, RB, Pittsburgh, 6-1, 235, 4.65 174. (5.3) Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State, 5-8, 175, 4.48 180. (5.4) Matthew Dayes, RB, NC State, 5-9, 205, 4.66 194. (5.3) De'Angelo Henderson, RB, Coastal Carolina, 5-7, 210, 4.48 196. (5.3) TJ Logan, RB, North Carolina, 5-9, 195, 4.37 - Pro Day 203. (5.0) Elijah McGuire, RB, Lafayette, 5-10, 215, 4.53 217. (5.4) Tarik Cohen, RB, NC A&T, 5-6, 180, 4.42 225. (5.0) Aaron Jones, RB, UTEP, 5-9, 210, 4.56 261. (4.9) De'Veon Smith, RB, Michigan, 5-11, 225, 4.85 - Pro Day 279. (5.4) Joe Williams, RB, Utah, 5-11, 210, 4.41 A lot of these guys fit the bill for big running back that would compliment Shady. D'Onta Foreman and James Conner intrigue me the most. Oh they should try to get a RB this year one way or another. There is value there and if they don't have a stud #1 RB developed to replace McCoy by this time next year it's back to projecting a RB in round 1 for the Billsy Bills. If they are smart they will load up on DB's, get 1-2 TE's and get a RB........gotta' take BPA's and there are guys in this draft that they might be able to get in the 4th-6th rounds that they would need to reach up into rounds 2 or 3 to get most years. Next years need list is going to be extensive when the majority of Incognito, Wood, Kujo, Henderson, McCoy, Clay, Kyle Wiliams.....maybe even Lorax and Hughes......are gone.......but you still gotta' stick with BPA and use the draft as a roster building process rather than a ill conceived attempt to patch holes that are going to keep forming. I'm all in on Saquan Barkley next year. He is McCoy's eventual replacement imo. Like I said......there will be gluttons for punishment who will be projecting and hoping the Bills take a RB in Rd1 next year.
Wayne Arnold Posted April 20, 2017 Author Posted April 20, 2017 Even without Gillislee we don't need to draft a RB. We have Shady, Williams and Tolbert. How many touches are there to go around? Don't waste a pick, just sign a Udfa incase of injuries or to fill out the preseason and camp Williams doesn't have it, imo. Tolbert is slow and over-the-hill.
PrimeTime101 Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 This is a good Group, I really Like James Connor out of that group being the best of bunch. Looks like running back is a need now. So let's take a look at the large number of talented backs that will be available in the mid-to-late rounds.Ordered by overall class ranking according to CBSSports NFL Draft team. The grade in parantheses after the ranking indicate the NFL.com rating. The players' programs that the Bills visited on Pro Day is indicated.116. (5.5) Marlon Mack, RB, USF, 5-11, 215, 4.50 40123. (5.5) Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo, 5-10, 215, 4.62 - Pro Day125. (5.6) Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma, 5-11, 235, 4.65 - Pro Day129. (5.4) Wayne Gallman, RB, Clemson, 6-0, 215, 4.60 - Pro Day140. (5.7) D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas, 6-0, 235, 4.46 - Pro Day144. (5.3) Jamal Williams, RB, BYU, 6-0, 210, 4.59148. (5.6) Jeremy McNichols, RB, Boise State, 5-9, 215, 4.49 - Pro Day156. (5.2) Corey Clement, RB, Wisconsin, 5-10, 220, 4.68 - Pro Day160. (5.4) Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming, 6-1, 220, 4.54162. (5.4) James Conner, RB, Pittsburgh, 6-1, 235, 4.65174. (5.3) Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State, 5-8, 175, 4.48180. (5.4) Matthew Dayes, RB, NC State, 5-9, 205, 4.66194. (5.3) De'Angelo Henderson, RB, Coastal Carolina, 5-7, 210, 4.48196. (5.3) TJ Logan, RB, North Carolina, 5-9, 195, 4.37 - Pro Day203. (5.0) Elijah McGuire, RB, Lafayette, 5-10, 215, 4.53217. (5.4) Tarik Cohen, RB, NC A&T, 5-6, 180, 4.42225. (5.0) Aaron Jones, RB, UTEP, 5-9, 210, 4.56261. (4.9) De'Veon Smith, RB, Michigan, 5-11, 225, 4.85 - Pro Day279. (5.4) Joe Williams, RB, Utah, 5-11, 210, 4.41 A lot of these guys fit the bill for big running back that would compliment Shady. D'Onta Foreman and James Conner intrigue me the most.
WideRightRevenge Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 Can't be a small dude .. we need the goal line banger / short yardage pile mover ... opposite of what Shady brings .. the Thunder/Lightning we've done in years past ... Foreman and McNichols is intriguing given other skills .. but if not 210 lbs or above ... no thanks
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 (edited) Can't be a small dude .. we need the goal line banger / short yardage pile mover ... opposite of what Shady brings .. the Thunder/Lightning we've done in years past ... Foreman and McNichols is intriguing given other skills .. but if not 210 lbs or above ... no thanksJwill is 6' 223 and Tolbert is even bigger. I would just draft the best RB regardless of size whenever the time comes, because it seems the biggest worry for this season is who will start if Shady is hurt,not who will pair best with him from a size/change of pace standpoint. Jmo. Edited April 20, 2017 by YoloinOhio
WideRightRevenge Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 Tolbert is on social security .. .he played down here for the Panthers (I live in NC) .. the tread is way old .. I think McDermott pulled him for character and since he was in the program .. I'm with you on J Will . . but with his ankle issue in the past .. I prefer to have someone who can take the rock if we have a long term injury .. he didn't show a ton last year when given the chance .. so throw a 5th rounder out there ... we already see what happens when you have no WR's. Let's not make the same mistake at RB.
YoloinOhio Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 Tolbert is on social security .. .he played down here for the Panthers (I live in NC) .. the tread is way old .. I think McDermott pulled him for character and since he was in the program .. I'm with you on J Will . . but with his ankle issue in the past .. I prefer to have someone who can take the rock if we have a long term injury .. he didn't show a ton last year when given the chance .. so throw a 5th rounder out there ... we already see what happens when you have no WR's. Let's not make the same mistake at RB.i definitely want to draft one with this group coming out. Bills always seem to draft one every year regardless so getting the extra 5th is perfect. I have no conclusions about Jwill yet. He got very few carries and RBs need to get into a rhythm. Maybe he's no good but I think he has a lot of potential, big camp for him coming up. Agree that Tolbert is mainly here to carry over culture and how he wants his locker room run but they are paying him nothing, I like his running style for how he's used. The key to it all is our OL and blocking scheme. Great situation for a rookie RB.
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