dave mcbride Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 Bill Belichik spoke at the Ohio State coach's clinic last week and said something I found kind of interesting, since we have seen kind of different approach from them this offseason. He said that at this point in his career, he wants to coach players he likes. Insinuating that he really has nothing left to prove, but he still wants to coach, and he doesn't feel the need to deal with any players he "doesn't like" just because they are talented, something he did in the past when he felt pressure to win. He also said he trusts certain programs and college coaches and prefers to draft from them over others which narrows down his prospects but he likes it that way. really interesting. thanks.
BADOLBILZ Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 The Bills are nothing more than a minor league farm team to the Patriots. How many wasted years, 17 years, can one person take. To me their best chance to eventually catch the Pats is to build their own strong identity and stand up to them. The constant re-shuffling when they inevitably realize that they can't beat the Pats at their own game is getting them nowhere. Gillisiee is part of that identity as a team that will run at will on you. A team like the Seahawks has given the Patriots trouble simply by pounding the rock and playing D whenever they meet.........it would be nice to be able to out-pass the Pats but it's unrealistic for the near future. They should just keep their strength intact and try to build on it. Are we 100% positive that Taylor was Whaleys call? Or is it possible that Taylor was part of the Rex effect? We might have rolled with EJ if it had been Whaleys call. No I think he was Rex's call. But praying to the god of scrap heap QB successes when you already have lucked out big time with the one on your roster is just a lack of awareness IMO by Real McCoy.
PIZ Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 on buffalobills.com: Corry weighs in on Gillislee offer sheet On Tuesday afternoon the New England Patriots signed Bills RB Mike Gillislee to a two-year offer sheet worth a reported $6.4M with a $4M figure in the first year of the deal. It’s a deal former NFL agent and CBSSports.com NFL analyst Joel Corry doesn’t see Buffalo matching. Corry, in an appearance on the John Murphy Show, said that the Patriots, like any other team, tried to make the deal cost prohibitive to match. “You always do that,” said Corry. “That’s what the Bills did to get Charles Clay from Miami as a transition player. The Bills had a balloon payment in the second year so Miami couldn’t match. You do it by design where you front load them or put a lot of guaranteed money in there to discourage the team from matching the offer.” When asked if he thought it would be wise for the Bills to match the Gillislee offer sheet, Corry doesn’t believe it makes sense. “No, I think that ship has sailed,” said Corry. The Bills would add a fifth-round pick to their current lot of six draft choices in the 2017 draft if they ultimately choose not to match. In a draft that is uncommonly deep, including the running back position, perhaps it was Buffalo’s intent to have another team try to sign Gillislee in the hopes of adding another draft choice. It would give Buffalo three fifth-round picks next week.
Jamie Nails Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 Is there actually any news on this? Assuming Bills won't match, but are there any reporters or conjecture that indicate our plans here? Are we going to drag this out for 4 more days?
CanadianFan Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 I am so happy Pats admire the talents we have! Can you imagine what they can do if their coaches take over our team? OMG! And what does that tell us about our team? What we need is BETTER COACHING! Hopefully McD is the answer.
without a drought Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 Is it raining here in Buffalo today or is it just tears from Bills fans crying over a back up running back.
Real McClappy Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) The fact that you imply that Taylor wasn't a ridiculously good find....or a "gem in a trash heap"........tells me how unrealistic your expectations are. Franchise he's not but realistically you might have to go back to Kurt Warner nearly two decades ago to find a better such out of nowhere second-hand QB find. If you call a stop gap QB a good find that assessment is problem #1 between us and we disagree 100% on it. Where did Gilly come from and where is Los now? The O-line and McCoy make this run game go, not LoS or Gilly. Some fans on this forum are funny and way over reach on every single topic. J Williams and another late Rd pick this year will do just fine. We lost our back-up running back so "lets trade one of our better Defensive players for a 1st rd pick and draft RB in Round1" Edited April 19, 2017 by Real McCoy
FireChan Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 If you call a stop gap QB a good find that assessment is problem #1 between us and we disagree 100% on it. Where did Gilly come from and where is Los now? The O-line and McCoy make this run game go, not LoS or Gilly. Some fans on this forum are funny and way over reach on every single topic. J Williams and another late Rd pick this year will do just fine. We lost our back-up running back so "lets trade one of our better Defensive players for a 1st rd pick and draft RB in Round1" A stop gap QB for peanuts? Yeah, that's a good find. TT may have been the second best FA QB this decade.
BarleyNY Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 Is it raining here in Buffalo today or is it just tears from Bills fans crying over a back up running back. It's raining. Also there are a bunch of frustrated Bills fans. It would've cost an extra $900k this season to have given Gillislee a second round tender instead of original round (5th). Now the Bills have to decide between paying him even more or losing him and gaining a 5th round pick. It's not the end of the world, but it was a mistake (which I pointed out at the time of tender) and I'm frustrated with watching Whaley repeatedly make such mistakes.
BADOLBILZ Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 If you call a stop gap QB a good find that assessment is problem #1 between us and we disagree 100% on it. Where did Gilly come from and where is Los now? The O-line and McCoy make this run game go, not LoS or Gilly. Some fans on this forum are funny and way over reach on every single topic. J Williams and another late Rd pick this year will do just fine. We lost our back-up running back so "lets trade one of our better Defensive players for a 1st rd pick and draft RB in Round1" Run game importance of units to Bills: 1. Taylor......keeps defenses out of the backfield with fear of gashing them with big runs or big passes in broken field if he breaks contain......allowing Bills relatively slow developing blocking game to get into blocks and open huge holes.....Bills backs lead NFL in yards before contact. 2. The Runnin' Bax.......McCoy and MG are both good.......MG hasn't proven he can carry a huge load, but hasn't proven he can't either.......and he is the better fit in new scheme and the more versatile player. 3. The OL......these guys are not much above average as a collection of parts but are propped up big time by a running QB that can stretch the field with deep vertical throws and two backs that can take the ball to the house. Without Taylor they struggle getting into blocks prior to penetration.
Success Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 It's incredible. How do you make the same mistake two years in a row? How does Pegula not see this guy as incompetent as a GM? Buffalo sports is a sad state of affairs. I don't understand the 'same mistake' thing. Do you watch what other teams do? Good players leave good teams for other teams EVERY YEAR.
FireChan Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 I don't understand the 'same mistake' thing. Do you watch what other teams do? Good players leave good teams for other teams EVERY YEAR. He didn't leave. He got stolen.
Success Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 He didn't leave. He got stolen. Stealing would imply a one sided transaction. We get a 5th and cap relief. As others have said, it's the kind of thing.the pats do all the time. They already lost 3 players this year who are arguably better at their position than MG.
FireChan Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 Stealing would imply a one sided transaction. We get a 5th and cap relief. As others have said, it's the kind of thing.the pats do all the time. They already lost 3 players this year who are arguably better at their position than MG. "cap relief" Holy smokes.
par73 Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 All I know is a 2nd round tender would have made this moot (for just under 1 million more).
Success Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 "cap relief" Holy smokes. I didn't say it was much. But with a draft pick, it's part of what they get. The pats didn't steal anything. We did what they do, a lot. But some here complain about everything. If this situation was reversed, we'd be idiots for overpaying a 6 carry back.
papazoid Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 Is it raining here in Buffalo today or is it just tears from Bills fans crying over a back up running back. tears of joy ?
thebandit27 Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 I'd rather MG then Vlad Ducasse. The guy blows and we gave him a pretty wealthy contract. That signing is still totally baffling to me.
HappyDays Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 He didn't leave. He got stolen. So if we had let him leave for nothing you would have been okay with it? I'll take the free 5th rounder from a division rival in exchange for a backup RB. It's insane to me that everyone else wouldn't take the same thing.
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