Blokestradamus Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Also, the Pats have two 5th round picks...which one do we get? Pick 163, the earliest one. Cap hit for '17 is $530,000.
without a drought Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 I was hoping he would sign with the Giants, that way I could've got Eli to hook me up with some game worn merchandise. Then I could always have a little something to remember him. Good luck Mike, I hope you rack up some great numbers in all those Patriots losses this year.
thebandit27 Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Well then revert to Hogan's 2015 numbers when he was a Bill, basically, the same numbers as Goodwin in the same RUN HEAVY offensive scheme and had 2 fewer catches than he did last year with 200 yards less. Wonder what Goodwin's numbers would look like with Tom Brady throwing him the rock? Probably boost up that YPC average some. 2015 BUF GP 16 GS 4 REC 36 YDS 450 YPC 12.5 LNG 46 TD 2 FYI those are Hogan's numbers in the Bills offense. Again, the point is that they did nothing proactive to replace a contributing player. Hoping for Goodwin to do the job post-Olympics was gutsy at best, and dumb at worst. They can ill-afford to do so again with Gillislee (assuming he's let go).
JM2009 Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Let him go. Q: How many more games do the Bills win with Gillislee on the roster. A: 0 What if McCoy goes down? We lost a very good backup, on a roster that has bad depth overall.
Success Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 6 carries a game on average.... This thread is crazy to read. It's what happens to a fanbase when a rival has their # for the better part of 2 decades, so I get it. But that doesn't make it rational.
Nitro Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Match it. He is worth more to the Bills than a 5th round pick.
GunnerBill Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) I wish New England would eff off. That is 3 of my favourite Bills in 2 years. Edited April 18, 2017 by GunnerBill
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 "The Bills would be on the hook for $4 million this year for a backup running back, who by the end of the contract he just signed will be 28 years old. If they decline, they get a fifth-round pick, an extra $1 million in cap space, and they can use the pick on a 21-to-23-year-old running back with a longer shelf life, longer contract, and for less money." Seems like a no-brained to me. Also, the Pats have two 5th round picks...which one do we get? Not to mention Shady will break down eventually and Gilly is not the prototype workhorse we'd need to depend on. It's a good move on whaleys part and getting a 5th for a guy we grabbed off the scrap pile makes it even better.
Coach Tuesday Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) Folks are acting like it was a binary choice: 5th round tender or 2nd round tender. It wasn't. They also could've signed him to a cap-friendly extension that would've avoided this entire problem. Doug Whaley is decent enough at scouting and drafting players (although he has a horrible blind spot when it comes to scouting QBs). He has NO IDEA how to build a roster, plan for the future, or work seamlessly with a coach. Nor can he interface with the media or the Bills' community (ex players, etc). He is a horrible, awful general manager. Edited April 18, 2017 by Coach Tuesday
John from Riverside Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Let me say that I am also a fan of Jonathan Williams even with his fumble problems his rookie year..... I still think we should match
LabattBlue Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) "The Bills would be on the hook for $4 million this year for a backup running back, who by the end of the contract he just signed will be 28 years old. If they decline, they get a fifth-round pick, an extra $1 million in cap space, and they can use the pick on a 21-to-23-year-old running back with a longer shelf life, longer contract, and for less money." Seems like a no-brained to me. Also, the Pats have two 5th round picks...which one do we get? You mean like the rookie RB we drafted last year who had such a MAJOR impact...cough cough <Jonathan Williams> cough cough Edited April 18, 2017 by LabattBlue
Coach Tuesday Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 And by the way - let's assume this is McCoy's last year on the Bills. If they don't match, they'll be spending yet another high pick on a running back in a year or two.
JM2009 Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Aaron Horwitz @AaronTheH 59m59 minutes ago More Replying to @JoeBuscaglia Gillislee led the league in YPC and a few other categories. He's likely better than a 5th rd pick.
DallasBillsFan1 Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Pats are playing Doug Whaley. They are expert off season chess masters. Whaley not managing roster/cap well and is being played. Pats get a win/win here. I say let Gillislee go to Pats and get 5th rounder from them ... the only winning solution for Bills in this scenario. $4 mill too much even though I love Gilleslee.
JM2009 Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Mark Kelso's Helmet @MarkKelsoHelmet 1h1 hour ago More Replying to @JoeBuscaglia Clearly, he's the smarter guy than the person making the Pats' decisions.
oldmanfan Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 What if McCoy goes down? We lost a very good backup, on a roster that has bad depth overall. They have Williams and Tolbert. Calm down. This is exactly what restricted FA is meant for. They know the price point , now they can work out a deal if they want or take the draft pick. I hope they do a long term deal, but this is not some massive failure on Whaley's part.
KellyToughII Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Match it. He is worth more to the Bills than a 5th round pick. That would be insane. No backup RB is worth 4 mill this year
Royale with Cheese Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 You mean like the rookie RB we drafted last year who had such a MAJOR impact...cough cough <Jonathan Williams> cough cough Williams can't get better? I mean how much production were you expecting out of a 3rd string rookie?
John from Riverside Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Pats are playing Doug Whaley. They are expert off season chess masters. Whaley not managing roster/cap well and is being played. Pats get a win/win here. I say let Gillislee go to Pats and get 5th rounder from them ... the only winning solution for Bills in this scenario. $4 mill too much even though I love Gilleslee. its 4 mill for ONE season....the contract is front loaded
Doc Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Considering what the Cheaters gave Burkhead (1 year deal for $3.15M after a 75 carry, 344 yard and 2 TD season), this is a good deal. I'd match it. Seems like the going rate for a backup RB now, although MG is a better backup than the others guys who got similar money. As for the 2nd round tender, it would have retained him for 1 year. Then he's an UFA next year. This way they can have him for 2.
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