boyst Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) Actually just brewed a coupla gallons of plum wine with the missus, picked two baskets full last week and it's fermenting as we speak. Double therapy. distill it if it is bad. im currently working on about 10-20 gal of different wines. strawberry, peach, plum, mixed berry. lavlin and big daddy are the two yeasts i use and i do not use anything to clear it up. next year i am going to make mead and use different sugars. Actually just brewed a coupla gallons of plum wine with the missus, picked two baskets full last week and it's fermenting as we speak. Double therapy. distill it if it is bad. im currently working on about 10-20 gal of different wines. strawberry, peach, plum, mixed berry. lavlin and big daddy are the two yeasts i use and i do not use anything to clear it up. next year i am going to make mead and use different sugars. So how do you grow Doritos? Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Lay tortillas on rimmed baking sheet and brush with oil on both sides. ... In a medium sized bowl, mix together Parmesan, chili powder, smoked paprika, and salt. Toss the sliced tortillas in the spice mix and lay them in a single layer on the baking sheet. Bake for 15-20 minutes or until crisp. Edited June 23, 2017 by Boyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 the !@#$? why would you think that? you do realize i'm a !@#$ing farmer for christ sakes? a bona fide, llc, make money to the public, certified in many highly accredited groups, have gave lectures, presentations and such about the culture of food and am working with groups to begin community gardens across the region? so shut the !@#$ up. BAIT TAKEN! I own a certified organic 20+ acre diversified vegetable operation, certified organic, 7 full time employees, president of our local ag co-op, lecturer extraordinaire, mentor to youth via RCBG Young Farmer/Rancher program, honest-to-god hands in the soil 80 hrs a week dirt farmer. Put that in your pipe and smoke it you sissy part timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) BAIT TAKEN! I own a certified organic 20+ acre diversified vegetable operation, certified organic, 7 full time employees, president of our local ag co-op, lecturer extraordinaire, mentor to youth via RCBG Young Farmer/Rancher program, honest-to-god hands in the soil 80 hrs a week dirt farmer. Put that in your pipe and smoke it you sissy part timer. sissy part timer. yes. right. row crop is for bitches. organic is for rooster suckers. and 20 acres. ****. small time af. ps, i'm half your age and had done all this by age 30 to begin with. Edited June 23, 2017 by Boyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 sissy part timer. yes. right. row crop is for bitches. organic is for rooster suckers. and 20 acres. ****. small time af. ps, i'm half your age and had done all this by age 30 to begin with. You're 15? I did forget to mention my other 40+ parcel, but it's in orchard with cattle...you know, easy stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) You're 15? I did forget to mention my other 40+ parcel, but it's in orchard with cattle...you know, easy stuff. an orchard with cattle means that your cattle would be eating everything. I've been doing this all my life and no I'm not 15. I'm 20, 21 next month and farming all of my life. I've given lectures to college kids PS. A whopping 60 acres. You land bear on you. Regular tycoon Edited June 23, 2017 by Boyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 an orchard with cattle means that your cattle would be eating everything. I've been doing this all my life and no I'm not 15. I'm 20, 21 next month and farming all of my life. I've given lectures to college kids PS. A whopping 60 acres. You land bear on you. Regular tycoon I will buy you a beer, young'un. And it's all I can afford, sadly. You know how expensive it is to lease ag land in Hawaii? Almost moved to Cumberland County PA last year...you can get 50+ w/ a barn, 2 bedroom house, water and all for what 5 bare acres cost here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) So, all this time when you've been talking about owning/operating a business, and your grand successes with a quasi-communist approach, what you've really been doing is running a farming co-op in freaking Hawaii? Edited June 23, 2017 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 So, all this time when you've been talking about owning/operating a business, and your grand successes with a quasi-communist approach, what you've really been doing is running a farming co-op in freaking Hawaii? The co-op manages the land for lease to farmers. More of a land management entity, if you're familiar. My going business is the farm, the co-op is basically a non-profit. They manage a chunk of state land and provide subleases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 The co-op manages the land for lease to farmers. More of a land management entity, if you're familiar. My going business is the farm, the co-op is basically a non-profit. They manage a chunk of state land and provide subleases. Wait, so you're leasing your land for use to farmers, using your privately held capital to exploit the labor of the proletariat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I will buy you a beer, young'un. And it's all I can afford, sadly. You know how expensive it is to lease ag land in Hawaii? Almost moved to Cumberland County PA last year...you can get 50+ w/ a barn, 2 bedroom house, water and all for what 5 bare acres cost here. I was in Hawaii in 94. Its terrible. The farming there is expensive because nothing comes from there. Organic farming in Hawaii is existent because that's all you have to choose from. There are little to no fertilizers needed. The climate is ideal. To farm in Hawaii to the douchebags who live there is a joke. Go to the international market. Sell some bean sprouts to traveling Japanese tourists after they celebrated victory at pearl harbor and slept thru the 15 min movie. And boom. Money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Wait, so you're leasing your land for use to farmers, using your privately held capital to exploit the labor of the proletariat? I know. It's terrible. ...although I do have a profit-share system set up for the crew, plus a bunch of medical and auxiliary benefits I'm not technically required to provide as to not feel entirely hypocritical. And to clarify, I don't own any of this land. I lease my land from the state and private landowners. Real estate for ag is just totally unaffordable here. I was in Hawaii in 94. Its terrible. The farming there is expensive because nothing comes from there. Organic farming in Hawaii is existent because that's all you have to choose from. There are little to no fertilizers needed. The climate is ideal. To farm in Hawaii to the douchebags who live there is a joke. Go to the international market. Sell some bean sprouts to traveling Japanese tourists after they celebrated victory at pearl harbor and slept thru the 15 min movie. And boom. Money The climate is fine in certain areas, but overall the humid subtropics are not what I'd call ideal for temperate vegetables which is what the market wants. The cost of shipping off-island, the lack of smaller-scale ag communities and farming culture outside the big plantations (mostly sugarcane and pineapple), having to purchase equipment from the mainland, a terrible land grant university ag research system, development encroaching on the most productive land, lack of affordable labor, constant invasive disease and pest pressure from being a tourism hub to the Pacific...it's tougher than you might imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Meet the Man Behind the Ossoff Campaign — He’s Just Getting Started http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/keenan-pontoni-jon-ossoff-democrats You gotta love the dems, this guy loses 2 races and is now their Great Consultant Hope? They're all about the moral victories. Who cares about actual victories?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I know. It's terrible. ...although I do have a profit-share system set up for the crew, plus a bunch of medical and auxiliary benefits I'm not technically required to provide as to not feel entirely hypocritical. And to clarify, I don't own any of this land. I lease my land from the state and private landowners. Real estate for ag is just totally unaffordable here. The climate is fine in certain areas, but overall the humid subtropics are not what I'd call ideal for temperate vegetables which is what the market wants. The cost of shipping off-island, the lack of smaller-scale ag communities and farming culture outside the big plantations (mostly sugarcane and pineapple), having to purchase equipment from the mainland, a terrible land grant university ag research system, development encroaching on the most productive land, lack of affordable labor, constant invasive disease and pest pressure from being a tourism hub to the Pacific...it's tougher than you might imagine. no. Its not. The state destroyed Hawaiian ag. And you just pay the state to keep doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Meet the Man Behind the Ossoff Campaign — He’s Just Getting Started http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/keenan-pontoni-jon-ossoff-democrats You gotta love the dems, this guy loses 2 races and is now their Great Consultant Hope? They're all about the moral victories. Who cares about actual victories?!? Makes me laugh my Ossoff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 no. Its not. The state destroyed Hawaiian ag. And you just pay the state to keep doing it. Nah. The state just doesn't have the foresight or the resources to invest in a healthy ag economy. It was done out of neglect and poor management. They've done well in the past with sugar and pineapple, now it's mac nuts and seed corn. Fine for bigger farm companies with tons of capital, but not really the way to grow agriculture in a permanent way. You don't just go from plantations to diversified farming overnight, either. It's a process that takes a lot of time, especially when indigenous crops aren't in high demand and there's no institutional knowledge to fall back on. Imagine you're looking to buy land fee simple to farm, and you're making a farm salary. That real estate you're looking at is 20 acres but zoned ag-5 which means it can be subdivided into four lots that only need to be gentleman farmed to qualify for the exemption. How are you supposed to own when a developer can offer market price and turn it into four parcels w/ houses for a 500% profit? The ROI on farming can't compete when prime ag land is in the vicinity of development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Nah. The state just doesn't have the foresight or the resources to invest in a healthy ag economy. It was done out of neglect and poor management. They've done well in the past with sugar and pineapple, now it's mac nuts and seed corn. Fine for bigger farm companies with tons of capital, but not really the way to grow agriculture in a permanent way. You don't just go from plantations to diversified farming overnight, either. It's a process that takes a lot of time, especially when indigenous crops aren't in high demand and there's no institutional knowledge to fall back on. Imagine you're looking to buy land fee simple to farm, and you're making a farm salary. That real estate you're looking at is 20 acres but zoned ag-5 which means it can be subdivided into four lots that only need to be gentleman farmed to qualify for the exemption. How are you supposed to own when a developer can offer market price and turn it into four parcels w/ houses for a 500% profit? The ROI on farming can't compete when prime ag land is in the vicinity of development. i stopped reading after the state doesn't have the resources to invest in a healthy ag economy. because the state shouldn't have to. if it does the economny will never be healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 As it should be. Hell, the Democrats have shown that their idea of "one party rule" is to make sure the president can do whatever the hell he wants, irrespective of the Constitution, and anything else is "obstructionist" and "racist" and "misogynist." Democrats actually scare me. Republicans are just idiots, and need the Democratic Party as a foil. Democrats...they're True Believers, and quite a few would outlaw the GOP as a hate group if they could. They don't need Republicans, they've got abstract "-isms" as a foil. Democrats stick to the plan and they've driven policy to the left successfully. Republicans in power today (including Trump) would have been considered liberals about 20 years ago -- and they're doing nothing to move the center back to where it belongs, the left to the left and the right to the right. Dems don't need to outlaw them. They're making themselves obsolete. Conservatives' (formerly regular Republicans) only hope anymore is to shake loose the parts of the Federal Gov't that have traditionally been left to the States and give them back to the States, where there's some promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Democrats stick to the plan and they've driven policy to the left successfully. Republicans in power today (including Trump) would have been considered liberals about 20 years ago -- and they're doing nothing to move the center back to where it belongs, the left to the left and the right to the right. Dems don't need to outlaw them. They're making themselves obsolete. Conservatives' (formerly regular Republicans) only hope anymore is to shake loose the parts of the Federal Gov't that have traditionally been left to the States and give them back to the States, where there's some promise. then what the hell are the fruits out there who want identity politics, hate speech banned, free everything for everyone, etc etc the democratic party is losing its base much faster than the right. the media may not show it but the truth is the democratic party is in shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Wait, so you're leasing your land for use to farmers, using your privately held capital to exploit the labor of the proletariat? Unbelievable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Unbelievable... Don't encourage him just because he wiki'd socialism and learned a new word. i stopped reading after the state doesn't have the resources to invest in a healthy ag economy. because the state shouldn't have to. if it does the economny will never be healthy. You think California doesn't benefit from their legislature as an ag state? Or NC, for that matter? Penn just publishes their research for the good of the farmer and their hearts? Ag is dying, dude. It needs all the help it can get. Read some Berry and educate yourself, he predicted this decades ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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