KellyToughII Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 Leroi said "We need an early run on QBs. If not, he will be there in the 2nd and we will pass on him. Imo" on April 12th in one of the Trubisky threads. He said elsewhere all the qb talk was smokescreen and that we had targeted five players. I cannot recollect precisely, but it was something like wr 2, te 1, cb 1, and de 1. So again the Bills pass on the most important position in all of football, That would be typical. Where did the mantra at OBD come from to push backups at best out as starters and hope we make the playoffs? I mean God knows we will never make or win a superbowl with TT at the helm. Oh wait, lets wait until next year for the 21st time, oh but with TT we went 7-9 so we are out of reach for a top QB AGAIN. And the wheel keeps on turning... What is the definition of insanity again? Get a starter and impact player at 10, no QB please Because that has gotten us to the playoffs so many years since our last appearance right? We have fielded TEAMS that should have been in the playoffs and more, but no QB....just like now
Dr. Who Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 Hey, I'm just telling you what the fella said since you asked. I've stated my preference for qb so many times I'm bored with it myself.
Bray Wyatt Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 I don't see how we can trade up for anything in this draft, but if we stand pat I have no problem with Trubisky if that is who they think is the best in this draft
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) Well, when Taylor gets injured, you'd HAVE to start the new QB. You think the fans would accept seeing Cardale Jones replace Taylor when they have a rookie QB that they want to see instead?Look, if Taylor gets hurt, of course give him a shot. But I'm not freaking out at the hypothetical of taking a guy at 10 and not freaking out if he doesn't win the starting job. You're reaching master level freak-out if you are freaking out about a hypothetical of a hypothetical #10 QB who hypothetically doesn't win the starting job hypothetically doesn't get played in case of a hypothetical Tyrod Taylor injury. Hypothetically. Sorry, I couldn't resist on the last one. Edited April 17, 2017 by WhitewalkerInPhilly
Bray Wyatt Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 Look, if Taylor gets hurt, of course give him a shot. But I'm not freaking out at the hypothetical of taking a guy at 10 and not freaking out if he doesn't win the starting job. You're reaching master level freak-out if you are freaking out about a hypothetical of a hypothetical #10 QB who hypothetically doesn't win the starting job hypothetically doesn't come in for a hypothetical Tyrod Taylor injury. Hypothetically. Sorry, I couldn't resist on the last one. Well we could always play TJ Yates too
wilcoam Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 I have no issue with our Bills trading up to grab a QB if they really think this guy has a solid starting future in the NFL However I'm not sure just because they think that is so that they are automatically correct I'm referring to the post that claimed Dennison would automatically know what he's doing First he's not a pro scout Second you know hundred's of OC's have made that claim B4 and turned out to be dead wrong Did someone go over every QB prospect picked while Dennison was an OC and see if his advice was correct I'd have to say he's presently 0-3 with regard to Paxton, Seiman, & Yates If not why was there so much talk about landing Romo? That's not saying our Bills should not draft the guy, however the jury might be out for years if it ends up being a good or bad move Just cos the Bills do it, does not make it a successful one, nor automatically a unsuccessful one It does seem to point that drafting Cardale Jones was a compete waste of a 2016 4th round pick And if we do grab Mitch, he does NOT have to start from day one, it does not make the pick bad, that's just silly... You don't draft for 2017, you draft for 2017-2022 jc
nucci Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 So again the Bills pass on the most important position in all of football, That would be typical. Where did the mantra at OBD come from to push backups at best out as starters and hope we make the playoffs? I mean God knows we will never make or win a superbowl with TT at the helm. Oh wait, lets wait until next year for the 21st time, oh but with TT we went 7-9 so we are out of reach for a top QB AGAIN. And the wheel keeps on turning... What is the definition of insanity again? Because that has gotten us to the playoffs so many years since our last appearance right? We have fielded TEAMS that should have been in the playoffs and more, but no QB....just like now The Jets keep taking QBs and they still don't have one. You have to pick a good QB and how do you know what God knows?
billykaykay Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 I don't see how we can trade up for anything in this draft, but if we stand pat I have no problem with Trubisky if that is who they think is the best in this draft To trade up with Tenn, we probably have to give up our 2nd but receive their 5th to even it all out.
billsredneck1 Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 this whole argument of trading up is stupid. we can't trade up. teams like cleveland have way more to offer and can move up to whatever spot they want...we cannot. it's pretty simple...he's there at 10 or he's not. if so,great....if not trade down and work it hard. it's a win/win for us either way it goes imo.
NewEra Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) So again the Bills pass on the most important position in all of football, That would be typical. Where did the mantra at OBD come from to push backups at best out as starters and hope we make the playoffs? I mean God knows we will never make or win a superbowl with TT at the helm. Oh wait, lets wait until next year for the 21st time, oh but with TT we went 7-9 so we are out of reach for a top QB AGAIN. And the wheel keeps on turning... What is the definition of insanity again? Because that has gotten us to the playoffs so many years since our last appearance right? We have fielded TEAMS that should have been in the playoffs and more, but no QB....just like now Last year we would've made the playoffs with no qb or WRs if we had a top 10 defense. It's plain and simple, we will take a qb at 10 if we think said qb is worthy of the pick. If we don't take a qb, it's because they don't think any qb is worthy of the pick. Some people love some QBs in the class. Some people aren't sold on any of them. If you're. It sold on one, build the defense back up to a top 5-10 unit and find the qb along the way. I'm personally not sold on any of them at 10 but I'd be happy if we took one. They know more than me and if they take one, they must really like him. If I had to rank them, I'd go Maholmes then Trubisky, with Watson barely beating out Kizer for 3rd. Would prefer to land Dobbs, Kelly, walker evans, torgerson or pipkin in the 5-7th. Edited April 17, 2017 by NewEra
Success Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 2 1st round Qb's since Kelly. 17 year drought. And people would complain about this?
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 Sorry for another speculation thread, but this guy works for optimum scouting, and wrote a piece on what his team has heard around the league. — If there’s one strong quarterback-team connection, it’s Trubisky and the Bills. They’ve had strong interest throughout the season and draft process, and they actually were one of the teams he looked to for advisement when he was making his decision to declare for the draft. While I don’t believe the Jets will draft a quarterback, the Bills might trade with the Titans to ensure they can get to Trubisky before New York. I would be surprised if they target a different quarterback, but they’ve done their due diligence on all of them. http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/nfl-draft-2017-quarterback-rumors-bears-eagles-browns-49ers/1sh4s33hm8jln1aj1kfmu5ijpd I believe that sending Terry out to meet with quarterbacks can't be a smokescreen for all that effort. I would not mind Trub here, but we would have to trade up and that is where things get dicy for me. Is Trubisky more valuable than fixing the gaping holes in the backfield? hes EJ all over again
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 ...the QB pontificating pundits (code for urinalists) are all over the map.....see what sticks and sells......still say find a late teens/early twenties partner, grab an extra 1st in 2018 when the QB class is "allegedly better(??)", as well as a 2nd or 3rd in 2017.........
John from Riverside Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 hes EJ all over again how so? We traded BACK and selected EJ
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 how so? We traded BACK and selected EJtrue but as a QB I see him as EJ all over again.
PABillsfan23 Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) Love fan panic mode over a report about the draft.. so gullible Edited April 17, 2017 by PABillsfan23
PromoTheRobot Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 So again the Bills pass on the most important position in all of football, That would be typical. Where did the mantra at OBD come from to push backups at best out as starters and hope we make the playoffs? I mean God knows we will never make or win a superbowl with TT at the helm. Oh wait, lets wait until next year for the 21st time, oh but with TT we went 7-9 so we are out of reach for a top QB AGAIN. And the wheel keeps on turning... What is the definition of insanity again? Because that has gotten us to the playoffs so many years since our last appearance right? We have fielded TEAMS that should have been in the playoffs and more, but no QB....just like now I wonder if you will still be around if Trubisky falls on his face in the NFL?
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 Nobody sends out a smokescreen like the Bills! Whaley is doing a great job getting everyone to believe they could pick several guys at #10 or trade up or trade back or......Nice work Doug and the crew.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 I wonder if you will still be around if Trubisky falls on his face in the NFL? ...don't get to see college ball, but am interested in your evaluation...is it based on being a one year starter for openers?.............
Shaw66 Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 Brian Brohm met every one of these requirements and then some. Judge the individual, not whether he meets prescribed categories, many of which are arbitrary. The question ISN'T why did you draft someone who meets the criteria? The question is why did you draft someone who didn't? The criteria aren't a guarantee of success. They are minimum job requirements. I'm sure there are exceptions, but if you haven't produced consistently and at a high level in college, why would anyone thing you're gonna produce in the pros?
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