Blokestradamus Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 I love it, people clamor for us to draft a QB, we draft a developmental type in a fitting round and already people write him off. There is no pleasing Bills fans at all. I've said it since they drafted him - right idea, wrong player. Cardale is a 1% success type of player but looking to invest in the position is something to persist with.
Cripple Creek Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 He finished up his studies and is getting his degree, good for him. The fact that Tom Herman is watching him walk across the stage tells me a little something about the young man and how he has matured. Good for him and I wish him well whether he takes a meaningful snap for the Bills or not.
Deadstroke Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Uh, because Cardale Jones is a terrible QB with no chance of NFL success. That is one of those hall of fame statements.
MAJBobby Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Aside from perhaps Trubisky [and he's no sure thing] these are all project QB's in the draft. We've already got one on the roster, Cardale Jones, who people say has a huge ceiling, and who looked like what you'd expect in his one quarter of play in late '16: a confident athlete with a monster arm but raw. I'm not saying he's going to be a great one, but why do many people [including the media] with no access his work on the practice field or classroom write him off already in favor of another raw QB? There's only so many snaps at practice and so much time the QB coach can give these players...why add another raw rookie? Cardale really just inst that good. But keep holding out hope
PromoTheRobot Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 The irony. All people see is potential leading up to the draft. Afterwards all they see are flaws.
Rocky Landing Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 The pronouncements regarding Cardale on this forum are a bit crazy. When he was drafted last year, he was accurately described as an extremely raw prospect with high potential. Since then, no one outside of the Bills organization has seen enough of him to know how far he has progressed, or if he is on track to make a leap in 2017. This is a situation where we have to trust the FO, and coaching staff. They cut EJ. They didn't cut Cardale. I'm assuming that we start TC with four QBs, whether we pick one up in FA, or the draft. If Cardale makes it onto the 53, I will assume that McD, et al, still see potential, and we may have something special in Cardale Jones.
CodeMonkey Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 The irony. All people see is potential leading up to the draft. Afterwards all they see are flaws. Nearly 2 decades of suck tends to do that to people.
JM2009 Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Nearly 2 decades of suck tends to do that to people. Pretty much.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) The pronouncements regarding Cardale on this forum are a bit crazy. When he was drafted last year, he was accurately described as an extremely raw prospect with high potential. Since then, no one outside of the Bills organization has seen enough of him to know how far he has progressed, or if he is on track to make a leap in 2017. This is a situation where we have to trust the FO, and coaching staff. They cut EJ. They didn't cut Cardale. I'm assuming that we start TC with four QBs, whether we pick one up in FA, or the draft. If Cardale makes it onto the 53, I will assume that McD, et al, still see potential, and we may have something special in Cardale Jones. ....not quite...sadly, EJ cut HIMSELF with his demonstrated ineptitude...NFL speed, complexity and zero confidence were his downfalls.....did I root for the kid to make it?...damn right...hell I couldn't make it as a kicking tee.....1,696 out of how many BILLION are privileged to be employed in the NFL?...no comparison between a 1st and 1 4th, but Cardale is now on the "show me" docket..... Edited April 16, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy
Bangarang Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 THe pick needs to match the value Value is too subjective and ultimately is irrelevant if that QB ends up being good.
Cripple Creek Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Nearly 2 decades of suck tends to do that to people. Nah, can't let that happen to you. Care a little less about the team and pull a little bit harder for the underdog players. If he pans out...fan!@#$ingtastic, if not...life goes on.
PromoTheRobot Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) Value is too subjective and ultimately is irrelevant if that QB ends up being good. Value is the invention of draft geeks. It gives them an imaginary concept to argue about. Edited April 16, 2017 by PromoTheRobot
3rdand12 Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Nah, can't let that happen to you. Care a little less about the team and pull a little bit harder for the underdog players. If he pans out...fan!@#$ingtastic, if not...life goes on. Yessir !
Bill_with_it Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Value is the invention of draft geeks. It gives them an imaginary concept to argue about.That isnt true. Look no further than spending 3 picks on Sammy. Was that imaginary that it wasnt good value?
Figster Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 ....not quite...sadly, EJ cut HIMSELF with his demonstrated ineptitude...NFL speed, complexity and zero confidence were his downfalls.....did I root for the kid to make it?...damn right...hell I couldn't make it as a kicking tee.....1,696 out of how many BILLION are privileged to be employed in the NFL?...no comparison between a 1st and 1 4th, but Cardale is now on the "show me" docket..... I would kick you Agree on C Jones, lets see what you got kiddo...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 That isnt true. Look no further than spending 3 picks on Sammy. Was that imaginary that it wasnt good value? And if he goes to Canton, what will it say on his bust? "Poor draft value?"
Augie Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 The irony. All people see is potential leading up to the draft. Afterwards all they see are flaws. Some people want to look smart, and have a compulsion to complain.
mannc Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) Cardale really just inst that good. But keep holding out hope Yeah, let's just cut him. He's played a total of about three quarters in three preseason games, throwing the ball to guys who are now bagging groceries. He played well in one of those outings, average in another and not so great in another. He also played the last quarter of one regular season game that the team was actively trying to lose. Were you at all the Bills' practices this past year? How is that you're so certain he "just isn't that good"? Should we just take your word for it and move on? Edited April 16, 2017 by mannc
John Gianelli Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Did anybody see his casually thrown 66-yard throw at the OSU spring game?? That's the potential that I love about this guy!! http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/cardale-jones-gives-it-the-old-college-try-with-66-yard-throw-at-osu-spring-game/ He also out-threw J.T. Barrett flat-footed (see the bottom of the page): http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/4/15/15314014/cardale-jones-ohio-states-spring-game-2017?yptr=yahoo&ref=yfp
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