Buffalo Boy Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 8:10 PM, JaCrispy said: I'm curious what y'all think...if the Bills do not give the 5th year to Sammy, should they attempt to trade him during the draft, in hopes to recoup some of their investment, to prevent him from walking after next year- leaving the Bills with nothing? I ask because I always feel the Bills get screwed in these situations, making it seem like they don't plan for the future like the Pats do.
KellyToughII Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 I dont extend him. Play this year out and see if he can stay healthy. If so franchise and workout a deal If he cant, franchise and see if someone wants to trade for his off injured butt.
Boatdrinks Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 10:53 PM, bisonbrigade said: I would say let him walk, but half the time Sammy cannot even do that. Best player on injury list. His favorite place. Yes I'm sure he loooooves that he's gotten injured. Idiots on this board.... On 4/15/2017 at 10:52 PM, Buffalo Boy said: Some players are not " tough" . Always having nagging injuries and letting people know they do. Sammy appears to be this type. I don't believe the Jones fracture is a simple " nagging type" injury. Many NFL players have gotten this. None nearly as tough as fans though, I'm certain.
Buffalo Boy Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 If they got a good deal in the trade I would be all over this. Not sure he was even worth a single first rounder. I am sure he wasn't worth two. If we got second round value for him I would be happy, first round= ecstatic
bisonbrigade Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 If Buffalo exercises the option, the Bills will shell out around $13 million in 2018, more than double what Watkins is earning in 2017. FORGET IT. NOT FOR MR. GLASS.
Boatdrinks Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 9:06 PM, stuvian said: there seems to be no apparent risk in failing to extend him save for relationships The risk is that he leaves and stays healthy and is a star for another team. A real possibility if he has overcome the injury. Then voila: you have a player that you spent 2 first round picks for depart after just 3.25 seasons played.
Rico Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 He's been a huge disappointment, but I don't see any way that you don't pick up the option, you're only talking about one year. What you do with him after that is another story, and yet TBD.
Boatdrinks Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 11:00 PM, bisonbrigade said: If Buffalo exercises the option, the Bills will shell out around $13 million in 2018, more than double what Watkins is earning in 2017. FORGET IT. NOT FOR MR. GLASS. Only what Gilmore is getting. Totally worth it for a player of Watkins talent and probably part of the reason they would only pay so much for SG. They would get next to nothing in a trade scenario as everyone would know that he wouldn't return to the Bills and will just wait for FA next year.
Buffalo Boy Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 (edited) On 4/15/2017 at 11:04 PM, Boatdrinks said: Only what Gilmore is getting. Totally worth it for a player of Watkins talent and probably part of the reason they would only pay so much for SG. They would get next to nothing in a trade scenario as everyone would know that he wouldn't return to the Bills and will just wait for FA next year. There is a sucker born every minute. You sign him and trade him. Someone will want him!!! Edited April 15, 2017 by Buffalo Boy
bisonbrigade Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 11:04 PM, Boatdrinks said: Only what Gilmore is getting. Totally worth it for a player of Watkins talent and probably part of the reason they would only pay so much for SG. They would get next to nothing in a trade scenario as everyone would know that he wouldn't return to the Bills and will just wait for FA next year. Totally worth playing paying $13 million for a player on injured reserve? I would of paid Gilmore and trade Watkins to make room.
klos63 Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 6:52 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Personal opinions on the player aside, if Whaley is still the GM he has to extend Sammy and see to it that he gets a second contract in Buffalo. Just for the optics alone. It would have nothing to do with optics. You have no proof, obviously. I often think people project their own characteristics on others. Maybe you would do it for the optics, but doesn't mean Whaley would. On 4/15/2017 at 10:55 PM, Boatdrinks said: Yes I'm sure he loooooves that he's gotten injured. Idiots on this board.... I don't believe the Jones fracture is a simple " nagging type" injury. Many NFL players have gotten this. None nearly as tough as fans though, I'm certain. you are so correct.
Beef Jerky Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) Lol they are going to do it but why do it now? Keep everyone thinking. I love the drama for no reason... Edited April 16, 2017 by Beef Jerky
JM2009 Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 10:45 PM, r00tabaga said: You are smarter than most. Why don't others see this? Do we really want to be the Detroit Lions East!?? CB, S, DLine, WLB, etc...... Especially with WRs that will be solid well into the 4th 5th rounds. Because without Watkins our WR corp is terrible.
John from Riverside Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 10:55 PM, Boatdrinks said: Yes I'm sure he loooooves that he's gotten injured. Idiots on this board.... I don't believe the Jones fracture is a simple " nagging type" injury. Many NFL players have gotten this. None nearly as tough as fans though, I'm certain. Armchair gms are funny Lets see them play with fractured ribs taking hits from NFL beast players on a weekly basis....they honestly dont know wtf they are talking about
Augie Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 On 4/16/2017 at 2:47 AM, John from Hemet said: Armchair gms are funny Lets see them play with fractured ribs taking hits from NFL beast players on a weekly basis....they honestly dont know wtf they are talking about They would not be able to post!
Mickey Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) On 4/15/2017 at 10:52 PM, Buffalo Boy said: Some players are not " tough" . Always having nagging injuries and letting people know they do. Sammy appears to be this type. Yeah, the weenie couldn't even play with a fractured foot, what a baby. Funny, hardly missed a game in college, I guess he was tough then and suddenly not tough when he came here. Makes sense. Edited April 16, 2017 by Mickey
Deranged Rhino Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 On 4/16/2017 at 12:10 AM, klos63 said: It would have nothing to do with optics. You have no proof, obviously. I often think people project their own characteristics on others. Maybe you would do it for the optics, but doesn't mean Whaley would. Sure, I'm speculating. But trading up for a WR then failing to retain him would be a big black mark on his resume for future employment. Doesn't mean he'll absolutely do it - just that it'd be pretty surprising if he didn't. It'd be an admission of failure, at least in the media's eyes. Sometimes optics matter.
ALF Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Try to sign him long term with a modest guarantee , if not 5th year option for sure.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 On 4/13/2017 at 8:44 PM, KellyToughII said: So you are saying QB IS the problem? So draft one at #10? Can't say that. Fans of the glorified RB will get pissed.
Rico Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 On 4/16/2017 at 6:59 AM, Deranged Rhino said: Sure, I'm speculating. But trading up for a WR then failing to retain him would be a big black mark on his resume for future employment. Doesn't mean he'll absolutely do it - just that it'd be pretty surprising if he didn't. It'd be an admission of failure, at least in the media's eyes. Sometimes optics matter. Agreed. A good GM is able to acknowledge a mistake, cut his losses, and move on. Of course, it's easier to do that when you had some successes to compensate for the failures, but Lil Doug knows nothing but fail. We've already seen how long he held on to a major blunder like EJ, so (unless overruled) there's no way he lets someone who has shown flashes of greatness leave the team.
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