jeffismagic Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 You don't consider Corey Davis elite? What kind of production are you looking for...200 Rec 2500 Yrds and 30 TDS No, I don't. I think he will be over drafted. I would rather target a Chris Godwin later on.
John from Riverside Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 I don't see elite talent dropping to ten. Jamal Adams will be gone, Solomon Thomas will be gone. OJ Howard at ten?! Corey Davis? Marlon Humphrey? Reuben Foster?! None of these guys are elite and there will be similar guys at 20. HTF would you know?
Beef Jerky Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 You don't consider Corey Davis elite? What kind of production are you looking for...200 Rec 2500 Yrds and 30 TDS So Tavon Austin is elite?
John from Riverside Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 If they pass on Watson and he turns out to be really good, it could be a low point for this franchise. That said, if they can emerge with a guy like Howard or Adams and a good qb prospect like Mahomes, I will be happy. I believe OJ Howard is elite. Big time OJ howard fan here....and if we ended up with him at 10 that would be just fine by me No, I don't. I think he will be over drafted. I would rather target a Chris Godwin later on. lol
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 So Tavon Austin is elite? No responding to his take that to take a guy in top 10 he needed to see production. Big time OJ howard fan here....and if we ended up with him at 10 that would be just fine by me lol Getting OJ Howard would be outstanding as he may well be a top 5 player in this draft.
Kirby Jackson Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 I don't see a QB run impacting us in the 1st. I think there will be 3 QBs selected between 12-25. It may help us if we are able to trade back.
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 I don't take guys at ten based on hope with no production. David Njoku is a similar prospect who might be better than Howard and he will still be on the board at 20. When I say elite I mean elite prospect. Of course OJ or Njoku have elite potential in the NFL. As of now they are just very good prospects. Well, I disagree on Howard. He is a monster who played with crappy qbs for a team that didn't need to throw the ball a lot. He's also a great blocker. He could be the next great TE.
John from Riverside Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Well, I disagree on Howard. He is a monster who played with crappy qbs for a team that didn't need to throw the ball a lot. He's also a great blocker. He could be the next great TE. This is my thought as well It isnt just that OJ Howard is a incredible athlete for his size....it is that he is actually adept as a in line blocker as well......too often you have guys that can either catch well and not block worth a crap block well and cant catch a cold You get more use out of a guy like this....he can stay on the field in running formations.....he can stay on the field when we spread it out
Beef Jerky Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Well, I disagree on Howard. He is a monster who played with crappy qbs for a team that didn't need to throw the ball a lot. He's also a great blocker. He could be the next great TE. How many Superbowls have teams with great TEs won? How many with average QBs?
Augie Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 I don't see a QB run impacting us in the 1st. I think there will be 3 QBs selected between 12-25. It may help us if we are able to trade back. Again, it may help us trade back if the Browns are still in the market at #12. Who might want to jump them?
Kirby Jackson Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 How many Superbowls have teams with great TEs won? How many with average QBs?Patriots, Saints, Colts all come to mindAgain, it may help us trade back if the Browns are still in the market at #12. Who might want to jump them?If teams want to jump them they probably want to jump us because of our interest. The Cardinals and Texans are the 2 that jump out.
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 How many Superbowls have teams with great TEs won? How many with average QBs? You're talking to a guy who wants a qb! But Howard is a great runner up prize.
Bill from NYC Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) I believe OJ Howard is elite. He really might be CB but it's even hard for me to tell and I have seen all of his games. Remember, last year he had a freshman qb and the year before Derrick Henry was getting all those carries. Plus, the Tide have a roster full of star skill position players. He has every single tool and his blocking has vastly improved over the years to the degree that I consider him to be an excellent blocker. Is 10 still a bit early? It might be. I won't complain if they draft him but you know why. Besides, I think we both know where the Bills will go in round 1, don't we? Edited April 12, 2017 by Bill from NYC
jeffismagic Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Well, I disagree on Howard. He is a monster who played with crappy qbs for a team that didn't need to throw the ball a lot. He's also a great blocker. He could be the next great TE. Maybe. Usually top ten picks have actual production AND fantastic athletic traits. OJ Howard timed very fast and very agile. He did have very concerning numbers for explosiveness.
Beef Jerky Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Patriots, Saints, Colts all come to mind Colts... Nope, Patriots... Has Gronk played in a Superbowl? Saints didn't have a great TE when they won.
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 This is my thought as well It isnt just that OJ Howard is a incredible athlete for his size....it is that he is actually adept as a in line blocker as well......too often you have guys that can either catch well and not block worth a crap block well and cant catch a cold You get more use out of a guy like this....he can stay on the field in running formations.....he can stay on the field when we spread it out Agreed! NE drafts or trades for TEs all the time. Let's do what good teams do for once! I just hope Howard loves blocking because he won't get the ball this year.
jeffismagic Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 He really might be CB but it's even hard for me to tell and I have seen all of his games. Remember, last year he had a freshman qb and the year before Derrick Henry was getting all those carries. Plus, the Tide have a roster full of star skill position players. He has every single tool and his blocking has vastly improved over the years to the degree that I consider him to be an excellent blocker. Is 10 still a bit early? It might be. I won't complain if they draft him but you know why. Besides, I think we both know where the Bills will go in round 1, don't we? Corner?!
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Colts... Nope, Patriots... Has Gronk played in a Superbowl? Saints didn't have a great TE when they won. You could do this for every non- qb position. And the reason the Pats didn't miss Gronk as much is because they acquired a top 10 TE last offseason.
Beef Jerky Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 You could do this for every non- qb position. And the reason the Pats didn't miss Gronk as much is because they acquired a top 10 TE last offseason. So it is the QB not the TE. Ok thanks for proving me right.
Bill from NYC Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Corner?! I think safety but one or the other.
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