Buffaloed in Pa Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 This is the Qb who gets my attention the most. 6-5 230 4.79 forty 33 verticle 9.8 broad . Big arm ,4,295 yds passing this season. 37 passing tds,6 rushing. This is the type of Qb I like. Gets fired up. Alot to work with. Seems to talk smarter than the other Qbs I`ve seen interviewed. Mahomes supposedly beat him out . Who`s your daddy ? Maybe ,maybe not. Anyway I like this kid.
thebandit27 Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 FWIW, here was my evaluation on Webb: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/192065-bandits-2017-qb-evaluations/ Davis Webb - Cal Notes (time correlates to comment): (0:09) climbs into the pocket without hesitation (0:21) doesn’t set his feet and sails the deep ball into double coverage (0:39) maintains accuracy despite throwing off back foot (0:59) good signs here-stands tall and stays on the balls of his feet, with a good stride, and delivers on the 3-route while pocket collapses (1:17) great awareness to break the pocket and keep his eyes up; nice TD throw on the run (1:51) drives nicely from the top of his drop-back and shows beautiful touch on the deep ball (2:32) should’ve held this ball longer and waited for something else to develop; almost got his RB killed (2:41) that’s a very nice off-balance throw on the option route, which he follows up by dropping a deep fade into the bucket with Sidney Jones in coverage (3:11) have to anticipate and make that throw sooner (3:30) great touch on the blast throw (4:43) this has to be the 4th or 5th time he’s had a miscommunication with a WR; not good (5:30) this gets a mention for sheer toughness; anyone that’s willing to take that shot to make a short throw when you’re down 30 points is tough enough for me (6:22) another really nice deep fade throw Summary: I had to pick the Washington game to see how well Webb held up against what basically amounts to an NFL secondary (Jones/King/Baker). He really held his own for a while, but as often happens to young QBs, he started forcing throws and getting into trouble. I like the mechanics and touch on his deep throws, but I don’t see a lot of velocity on either the inward-breaking or boundary throws. He probably needs to play in a timing-based offense, but I see value on day 2 for a team that can surround him with weapons.
jr1 Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 Jim Zorn is tutoring him http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/nfl-draft-cal-qb-davis-webb-tries-to-shed-air-raid-stigma-040517
jeffismagic Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 This is the Qb who gets my attention the most. 6-5 230 4.79 forty 33 verticle 9.8 broad . Big arm ,4,295 yds passing this season. 37 passing tds,6 rushing. This is the type of Qb I like. Gets fired up. Alot to work with. Seems to talk smarter than the other Qbs I`ve seen interviewed. Mahomes supposedly beat him out . Who`s your daddy ? Maybe ,maybe not. Anyway I like this kid. The QB's I like late are Webb and Dobbs. Unfortunately for you, Webb is tall and white. So he will get taken higher than the value.
Buffaloed in Pa Posted April 7, 2017 Author Posted April 7, 2017 FWIW, here was my evaluation on Webb: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/192065-bandits-2017-qb-evaluations/ Davis Webb - Cal Notes (time correlates to comment): (0:09) climbs into the pocket without hesitation (0:21) doesn’t set his feet and sails the deep ball into double coverage (0:39) maintains accuracy despite throwing off back foot (0:59) good signs here-stands tall and stays on the balls of his feet, with a good stride, and delivers on the 3-route while pocket collapses (1:17) great awareness to break the pocket and keep his eyes up; nice TD throw on the run (1:51) drives nicely from the top of his drop-back and shows beautiful touch on the deep ball (2:32) should’ve held this ball longer and waited for something else to develop; almost got his RB killed (2:41) that’s a very nice off-balance throw on the option route, which he follows up by dropping a deep fade into the bucket with Sidney Jones in coverage (3:11) have to anticipate and make that throw sooner (3:30) great touch on the blast throw (4:43) this has to be the 4th or 5th time he’s had a miscommunication with a WR; not good (5:30) this gets a mention for sheer toughness; anyone that’s willing to take that shot to make a short throw when you’re down 30 points is tough enough for me (6:22) another really nice deep fade throw Summary: I had to pick the Washington game to see how well Webb held up against what basically amounts to an NFL secondary (Jones/King/Baker). He really held his own for a while, but as often happens to young QBs, he started forcing throws and getting into trouble. I like the mechanics and touch on his deep throws, but I don’t see a lot of velocity on either the inward-breaking or boundary throws. He probably needs to play in a timing-based offense, but I see value on day 2 for a team that can surround him with weapons. West coast ? Good job bandit. I still like him alot better than Peterman
thebandit27 Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 The QB's I like late are Webb and Dobbs. Unfortunately for you, Webb is tall and white. So he will get taken higher than the value. Just like EJ
jeffismagic Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 Not buying that one. He's not comparing him to EJ, he's saying that race doesn't factor into these decisions. I don't think NFL teams ignore talented non-white QB's but lots of less talented white QB's get more play than they should. It was a minor point but let's get back quickly to Webb or the thread will be derailed.
thebandit27 Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 He's not comparing him to EJ, he's saying that race doesn't factor into these decisions. I don't think NFL teams ignore talented non-white QB's but lots of less talented white QB's get more play than they should. It was a minor point but let's get back quickly to Webb or the thread will be derailed. In all seriousness, your de facto point is not lost on me: QBs that fit the stereotypical mold of tall, strong, classic drop-back style passer tend to go higher than their personal case valuation might otherwise place them.
jeffismagic Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 In all seriousness, your de facto point is not lost on me: QBs that fit the stereotypical mold of tall, strong, classic drop-back style passer tend to go higher than their personal case valuation might otherwise place them. Thank you, you explained it well. Guys that look "right" get taken higher.
Buffaloed in Pa Posted April 7, 2017 Author Posted April 7, 2017 Thank you, you explained it well. Guys that look "right" get taken higher. So if they look right,you hold that against them ? Maybe the one that looks right is the right one. Gotta keep trying to find the right one.
jeffismagic Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 So if they look right,you hold that against them ? Maybe the one that looks right is the right one. Gotta keep trying to find the right one. I just said I like Webb. My issue is getting him at proper value.
Buffaloed in Pa Posted April 7, 2017 Author Posted April 7, 2017 I just said I like Webb. My issue is getting him at proper value. I think he is worth a 2nd. He has alot to work with.These college Qbs need time,something they don`t get anymore. Even the great Peyton Manning sucked his first year and Big Ben wasn`t too hot either. Both tall big white Qbs.Black,white ,indian ,I really don`t care.
BuffaloBud420 Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 He is my sleeper. I'd snag him in the 3rd. This years Dak
billspro Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 Every time I watch Webb it just makes me want to draft Chad Hansen, that guy played amazing last year. Webb definitely flashed at the senior bowl, he has all the tools but also played in the Air Raid offence so he has a lot to learn. He didn't outplay Goff so I would see him a a 2-3 year developmental project.
BuffaloFan68 Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 Do you think we can get Webb in the second or the third? It would be nice to grab Williams in the first, a Safety in the second and then QB in the third. Go Bills!!!!!
YoloinOhio Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 Every time I watch Webb it just makes me want to draft Chad Hansen, that guy played amazing last year. Webb definitely flashed at the senior bowl, he has all the tools but also played in the Air Raid offence so he has a lot to learn. He didn't outplay Goff so I would see him a a 2-3 year developmental project. yes! Chad Hanson was one of my favorite players in cfb last season
billspro Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 yes! Chad Hanson was one of my favorite players in cfb last season he is so underrated, if we get him in the third we have a legit number 2 WR.
Buffaloed in Pa Posted April 7, 2017 Author Posted April 7, 2017 Every time I watch Webb it just makes me want to draft Chad Hansen, that guy played amazing last year. Webb definitely flashed at the senior bowl, he has all the tools but also played in the Air Raid offence so he has a lot to learn. He didn't outplay Goff so I would see him a a 2-3 year developmental project. Yeah Tyrod reminds me of Jeff Blake
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