YoloinOhio Posted April 7, 2017 Author Posted April 7, 2017 McD was on WGR yesterday morning and they asked him about the dinner. He said he wanted to learn from them how they came together back then. What worked, what didn't work. What it meant to put on a Bills helmet, what it meant to play in that city. He also said (not exactly these words but this is what I took from it) that he was picking their brains about the current team. http://www.wgr550.com/articles/news/mcdermott-im-always-trying-learn article and link to audio with interview
CodeMonkey Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 McD was on WGR yesterday morning and they asked him about the dinner. He said he wanted to learn from them how they came together back then. What worked, what didn't work. What it meant to put on a Bills helmet, what it meant to play in that city. He also said (not exactly these words but this is what I took from it) that he was picking their brains about the current team. http://www.wgr550.com/articles/news/mcdermott-im-always-trying-learn article and link to audio with interview First line, blah meaningless. The rest could be very good stuff though. Gives him a jump start with the current players, particularly if the "legends" know the current players off the field and could give insight as to where the players heads are at.
CBD Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) McD was on WGR yesterday morning and they asked him about the dinner. He said he wanted to learn from them how they came together back then. What worked, what didn't work. What it meant to put on a Bills helmet, what it meant to play in that city. He also said (not exactly these words but this is what I took from it) that he was picking their brains about the current team. http://www.wgr550.com/articles/news/mcdermott-im-always-trying-learn article and link to audio with interview I think that's the biggest benefit. PR in a round about way. These guys go on local and national shows occasionally and are active on social media, it will serve the team if they support McDermott and the current players. Edited April 7, 2017 by Carey Bender
YoloinOhio Posted April 7, 2017 Author Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) I think that's the biggest benefit. PR in a round about way. These guys go on local and national shows occasionally, it will serve the team if they support McDermott and the current players. it seemed to me (I could be wrong, it was what I surmised) that he had some opinions about some of the players, issues, etc and was looking for confirmation or insight. Some of those guys are around the team a lot and/or watch all the games. Again it was JMO, but what he said toward the end of the interview sounded like that was what he was interested in. Edited April 7, 2017 by YoloinOhio
3rdand12 Posted April 7, 2017 Posted April 7, 2017 Yeah, made me happy to see those two there. As far as this season goes.... to be honest, I think it is kind of a transition year. They could always surprise us, but it feels like they are destined for a 4-6 win season.... Its fine though. McDermott seems focused on long term, sustained success. I think if you just take the moment and Isolate it for a moment, it is just pretty darned cool to see all these guys looking happy !
BUFFALOKIE Posted April 8, 2017 Posted April 8, 2017 I just went back and looked at the photo. Man, Bruce still looks young and fit. He's hardly aged at all!
Hammered a Lot Posted April 8, 2017 Posted April 8, 2017 Welcome to TBD where someone, will find fault with something, 100% of the time. How can you say that? I think your wrong.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 8, 2017 Posted April 8, 2017 why the hell or who the hell does this guy McCoach think he is trying to make a difference?.....with 17 years in the book he wants to change it now and stop YEAR 18 from happening?.....I say trying to turn the tide should be IMMEDIATE grounds for termination....this should be Dick Jauron's team pronto.....
Augie Posted April 8, 2017 Posted April 8, 2017 why the hell or who the hell does this guy McCoach think he is trying to make a difference?.....with 17 years in the book he wants to change it now and stop YEAR 18 from happening?.....I say trying to turn the tide should be IMMEDIATE grounds for termination....this should be Dick Jauron's team pronto..... Doesn't he know you need a cool truck with a rapidly retreating buffalo? "Run Away! Run Away!"
3rdand12 Posted April 8, 2017 Posted April 8, 2017 why the hell or who the hell does this guy McCoach think he is trying to make a difference?.....with 17 years in the book he wants to change it now and stop YEAR 18 from happening?.....I say trying to turn the tide should be IMMEDIATE grounds for termination....this should be Dick Jauron's team pronto..... I can imagine BN is already hashing out a plan to undermine him.
iinii Posted April 8, 2017 Posted April 8, 2017 It is good in this day and age to see a young coach ask veterans for input. Ignoring the past and wisdom of guys like Kelly and the rest is bad mojo especially in an organization as unique as the Bills. History has a way of repeating itself in both positive ways and negative ways.
3rdand12 Posted April 8, 2017 Posted April 8, 2017 It is good in this day and age to see a young coach ask veterans for input. Ignoring the past and wisdom of guys like Kelly and the rest is bad mojo especially in an organization as unique as the Bills. History has a way of repeating itself in both positive ways and negative ways. sometimes, seeing what not to do is a greater education than grasping at opinions how success should be reached. The interaction is wise from him. And whether it has Brandon's PR spin on it? I am still quite pleased about Coach for this effort/exercise and plenty of other noted trends post Ryans
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 8, 2017 Posted April 8, 2017 I can imagine BN is already hashing out a plan to undermine him. ...look, I emphasize with all of the naysayers.....17 years is a long stretch....at the same time, this is YEAR 55 for me, perseverance if you will...I know the 60's glory years well and all of the voids until we reach the 90's of "shoulda coulda woulda".....Ralph anointed DONOHOLE as the first El Presidente in the club's history after the Polian firing (Littmann's doing).....and the downward slide ensued...he got canned when RW knew his inner circle of trust was violated....so we re-tire Marv and promote Brandon into positions with ZERO qualifications for.....the epitome of a patchwork (woeful IMO) FO and administration.....Nix becomes the 1st real football guy in ops but he is 70+. not a knock on age, but a question of his effectiveness....so we then wallow though Jauron, Gailey, Edwards, Wannesteadt, etc and fast forward to the bloviating Wrecks.......I'm just not ready to put McCoach in THAT manure pile........
Saxum Posted April 8, 2017 Posted April 8, 2017 ...look, I emphasize with all of the naysayers.....17 years is a long stretch....at the same time, this is YEAR 55 for me, perseverance if you will...I know the 60's glory years well and all of the voids until we reach the 90's of "shoulda coulda woulda".....Ralph anointed DONOHOLE as the first El Presidente in the club's history after the Polian firing (Littmann's doing).....and the downward slide ensued...he got canned when RW knew his inner circle of trust was violated....so we re-tire Marv and promote Brandon into positions with ZERO qualifications for.....the epitome of a patchwork (woeful IMO) FO and administration.....Nix becomes the 1st real football guy in ops but he is 70+. not a knock on age, but a question of his effectiveness....so we then wallow though Jauron, Gailey, Edwards, Wannesteadt, etc and fast forward to the bloviating Wrecks.......I'm just not ready to put McCoach in THAT manure pile........ Polian's firing was his own doing. He was known for being nasty to women and then he made comments about Ralph's daughter (who had done work for Bills and found some good players) and Ralph fired him. That is not something those who know only the wikipedia highlights history of him seem to remember. Ralph was someone who had a temper sometimes and that was enough for him and he was right in this case.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 8, 2017 Posted April 8, 2017 Polian's firing was his own doing. He was known for being nasty to women and then he made comments about Ralph's daughter (who had done work for Bills and found some good players) and Ralph fired him. That is not something those who know only the wikipedia highlights history of him seem to remember. Ralph was someone who had a temper sometimes and that was enough for him and he was right in this case. ....not here to deny Polian's demeanor.....he was OBD's "80 grit sandpaper" rubbing many the wrong way....at the same time, Littmann was RW's most trusted confidant (1% shareholder gratis from Ralph and CFO in every Wilson endeavor) and carried huge clout.....Littmann vs Polian = Clay vs Liston......done deal..........
3rdand12 Posted April 8, 2017 Posted April 8, 2017 ...look, I emphasize with all of the naysayers.....17 years is a long stretch....at the same time, this is YEAR 55 for me, perseverance if you will...I know the 60's glory years well and all of the voids until we reach the 90's of "shoulda coulda woulda".....Ralph anointed DONOHOLE as the first El Presidente in the club's history after the Polian firing (Littmann's doing).....and the downward slide ensued...he got canned when RW knew his inner circle of trust was violated....so we re-tire Marv and promote Brandon into positions with ZERO qualifications for.....the epitome of a patchwork (woeful IMO) FO and administration.....Nix becomes the 1st real football guy in ops but he is 70+. not a knock on age, but a question of his effectiveness....so we then wallow though Jauron, Gailey, Edwards, Wannesteadt, etc and fast forward to the bloviating Wrecks.......I'm just not ready to put McCoach in THAT manure pile........ Here is is my thing. Mr Wilson was reluctant to spend money in the Front Office and perhaps such areas as scouting et al. It was a business. Lets no one be fooled by that. No knock on Ralph at all. Pegula is seemingly a 180Deg turn. In regard to the business side at least. and learning to hit the Curve balls because he is known to hit the Fastball hard. McCoach is likely going to need our patience. But he is a fresh breeze for me.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 8, 2017 Posted April 8, 2017 Here is is my thing. Mr Wilson was reluctant to spend money in the Front Office and perhaps such areas as scouting et al. It was a business. Lets no one be fooled by that. No knock on Ralph at all. Pegula is seemingly a 180Deg turn. In regard to the business side at least. and learning to hit the Curve balls because he is known to hit the Fastball hard. McCoach is likely going to need our patience. But he is a fresh breeze for me. ....your "thing" is a 1000% correct and I fully support it....Pegula is a methodical scientist by trade and they take their time....he realized "over time" that Regier needed to go as the wrong fit.....so he hires Murray and Danny B who are continually being evaluated as far as TP's goal....the Bflo transition was Upheaval 101 with Marrone taking off.....so assessment time was out the window with no recourse but to keep pieces in place....Brandon got kicked upstairs, the Russ induced ticketmaster Wrecks hiring is gone and a gritty McCoach is on the scene.....and no pushover for Whaley to dictate the show..........high tide or low tide, he IS the "Lead Dawg" and I like it so far period........
3rdand12 Posted April 8, 2017 Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) ....your "thing" is a 1000% correct and I fully support it....Pegula is a methodical scientist by trade and they take their time....he realized "over time" that Regier needed to go as the wrong fit.....so he hires Murray and Danny B who are continually being evaluated as far as TP's goal....the Bflo transition was Upheaval 101 with Marrone taking off.....so assessment time was out the window with no recourse but to keep pieces in place....Brandon got kicked upstairs, the Russ induced ticketmaster Wrecks hiring is gone and a gritty McCoach is on the scene.....and no pushover for Whaley to dictate the show..........high tide or low tide, he IS the "Lead Dawg" and I like it so far period........ It seems in each of our own long winded way... We agree. always a pleasure btw Good Sir Edited April 8, 2017 by 3rdand12
Beef Jerky Posted April 8, 2017 Posted April 8, 2017 I am so sick of the kissing up to these "Legends". Can we look into the future and leave the past behind? Do other NFL teams act like this with their retired players? Its hard to have a better tomorrow, if you don't stop dwelling on yesterday. Imo Belichick would disagree with you.
PromoTheRobot Posted April 9, 2017 Posted April 9, 2017 why the hell or who the hell does this guy McCoach think he is trying to make a difference?.....with 17 years in the book he wants to change it now and stop YEAR 18 from happening?.....I say trying to turn the tide should be IMMEDIATE grounds for termination....this should be Dick Jauron's team pronto..... I sometimes wonder if some people want the streak to continue endlessly.
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