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[SinceThe70s]

3 hours ago, ExWNYer said:

Escobar hit a two out solo shot in the 9th and they ended up losing, 9-8. Eight men LOB and they chased all game after getting into a 6-1 hole. Just like I said, a 'woulda, coulda, shoulda' game. It was there for the taking and they pissed it away. Here's a not so fun fact which sums up the day...prior to Escobar's HR, Gary said that the Mets were 42-0 in the last forty-two games where they scored 7 runs. Until today against Atlanta, of course. I fully expect a 5-0 or 6-0 type of loss in the nightcap. Sack up and prove me wrong, Mets.

 

Happy to see the Mets prove us both wrong and manage the split.  I didn't see a whole lot of the games today. Followed the box score on and off at work, listened to the radio on the drive home and then split between radio/tv for the last half of the second game. 

 

On the way home Howie was talking about how Alvarez was looking more and more comfortable at the plate and that at every level Alvarez struggled at first after getting called up. He looked like a genius when Alvarez got the big hit late in the game.

 

I was listening again when Megill was trying to make it through 6. When it came down to facing Rosario with the bases loaded I was fine with Buck leaving him in - even though the obvious move was to pull him after the walk. 

 

Fun fact from the TV broadcast - this was the 25th straight double-header split for the Mets. Never would have guessed that.

 

 

[ExWNYer]

2 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Happy to see the Mets prove us both wrong and manage the split.  I didn't see a whole lot of the games today. Followed the box score on and off at work, listened to the radio on the drive home and then split between radio/tv for the last half of the second game. 

 

On the way home Howie was talking about how Alvarez was looking more and more comfortable at the plate and that at every level Alvarez struggled at first after getting called up. He looked like a genius when Alvarez got the big hit late in the game.

 

I was listening again when Megill was trying to make it through 6. When it came down to facing Rosario with the bases loaded I was fine with Buck leaving him in - even though the obvious move was to pull him after the walk. 

 

Fun fact from the TV broadcast - this was the 25th straight double-header split for the Mets. Never would have guessed that.

 

 

 

Glad they got the split. I watched all of the first game and then decided to save myself any more torture and skipped the second game. The first time I checked my phone they were up 2-0, the second time I checked they were down 3-2, and the third time I checked they were up 4-3 on Alvarez two-bagger and then I saw it was 5-3. A sweep would have been nice (they blew a golden opportunity) but a split is certainly better than nothing. Was that stat actually that it was the 25th straight time that they've at least split a doubleheader? Because I know they've swept some in the last few years.

[SinceThe70s]

26 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

Glad they got the split. I watched all of the first game and then decided to save myself any more torture and skipped the second game. The first time I checked my phone they were up 2-0, the second time I checked they were down 3-2, and the third time I checked they were up 4-3 on Alvarez two-bagger and then I saw it was 5-3. A sweep would have been nice (they blew a golden opportunity) but a split is certainly better than nothing. Was that stat actually that it was the 25th straight time that they've at least split a doubleheader? Because I know they've swept some in the last few years.

 

You are correct sir. I must have misheard it.

[ExWNYer]

On 5/1/2023 at 10:36 PM, SinceThe70s said:

 

You are correct sir. I must have misheard it.

 

So it's either ending tonight or extending to 26 straight as they just choked away Game 1 of the doubleheader to a Tigers team that was 10-17 coming into the day. The Mets had a 5-4 lead in the bottom of the 8th and Ottavino gave up a two run, two out single and they lost, 6-5.

 

Again, this team just gives away far too many games against inferior opponents. They have now lost 7 of their last 9 and Nimmo, who struck out on a check swing with the tying run at first to end the game, is in the middle of a 2-21 slump. He needs to turn it around, ASAP. Scherzer goes in the nightcap and Verlander makes his Met debut tomorrow afternoon. They need to take these next two, no excuses.

[SinceThe70s]

3 hours ago, ExWNYer said:

 

So it's either ending tonight or extending to 26 straight as they just choked away Game 1 of the doubleheader to a Tigers team that was 10-17 coming into the day. The Mets had a 5-4 lead in the bottom of the 8th and Ottavino gave up a two run, two out single and they lost, 6-5.

 

Again, this team just gives away far too many games against inferior opponents. They have now lost 7 of their last 9 and Nimmo, who struck out on a check swing with the tying run at first to end the game, is in the middle of a 2-21 slump. He needs to turn it around, ASAP. Scherzer goes in the nightcap and Verlander makes his Met debut tomorrow afternoon. They need to take these next two, no excuses.

 

Scherzer is pitching like this is a playoff game.

 

[ExWNYer]

49 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Scherzer is pitching like this is a playoff game.

 

 

He looked like complete sh*t. Gave up 5 earned runs on 75 pitches and was yanked after 3 1/3 innings and two men on base with the Mets trailing 5-1. He's looked cooked this year other than his first start against the Padres when he went 5 innings and gave up nothing.  Another "who the hell is he?!" pitcher came in to relieve Scherzer (Zach Muckenhirn) and promptly surrendered an RBI single before getting out of the inning on a double play ball. 6-1 Detroit going to the bottom of the 4th with all 6 earned runs charged to Scherzer who already had a less than stellar 3.72 ERA coming into the game. And the bats are impotent once again. Small payroll or record-breaking payroll, they always become the same old frustrating f'ing Mets.

Edited May 4, 2023 by ExWNYer

[SinceThe70s]

3 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

He looked like complete sh*t. Gave up 5 earned runs on 75 pitches and was yanked after 3 1/3 innings and two men on base with the Mets trailing 5-1. He's looked cooked this year other than his first start against the Padres when he went 5 innings and gave up nothing.  Another "who the hell is he?!" pitcher came in to relieve Scherzer (Zach Muckenhirn) and promptly surrendered an RBI single before getting out of the inning on a double play ball. 6-1 Detroit going to the bottom of the 4th with all 6 earned runs charged to Scherzer who already had a less than stellar 3.72 ERA coming into the game. And the bats are impotent once again. Small payroll or record-breaking payroll, they always become the same old frustrating f'ing Mets.

 

What p!sses me off is that this start comes on the heels of a suspension. It's not like he's coming back from an injury.  It's getting beyond tiring praying that our top pitchers can make it through the season. - we've been on that hamster wheel for what 3-4 years? Even worse to watch Max suck when he actually does take the mound.

[Another Fan]

This is where Buck, Cohen, or someone needs to close the doors tonight and tell the team:

 

The product out there today was a f***ing joke.  You guys gotta get your pansy asses in gear.  You are the laughing stock of Major League Baseball right now.

 

 

I think someone needs to rip into the team to get them focused again. Or have their skin crawl a little with some fear 

Edited May 4, 2023 by Another Fan

[ExWNYer]

3 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

What p!sses me off is that this start comes on the heels of a suspension. It's not like he's coming back from an injury.  It's getting beyond tiring praying that our top pitchers can make it through the season. - we've been on that hamster wheel for what 3-4 years? Even worse to watch Max suck when he actually does take the mound.

 

2 hours ago, Another Fan said:

This is where Buck, Cohen, or someone needs to close the doors tonight and tell the team:

 

The product out there today was a f***ing joke.  You guys gotta get your pansy asses in gear.  You are the laughing stock of Major League Baseball right now.

 

 

I think someone needs to rip into the team to get them focused again. Or have their skin crawl a little with some fear 

 

@Gugny

 

Scherzer is now the 'proud' owner of a 5.56 ERA and a 1.41 WHIP. WTF...I thought David Peterson had been demoted to Syracuse but, apparently, he's alive and well and has taken over Max's body. Detroit was hitting nobody coming into this series...and I mean NOBODY...but leave it to the underachieving Mets and their decrepit 'ace' to right the listing Tigers' ship and turn them into the 1927 'Murderers Row' Yankees. Would anyone really be surprised at this point if Verlander's season debut ended in a Motor City Kitty sweep? I wouldn't. 'The Mess' have now lost 8 of their last 10 games with 6 of those 8 losses coming to the Giants, Natalies, & Tigers. Those are the games you're supposed to be taking advantage of to climb the standings.

 

This sh*t show of a staff has allowed more HRs than any other team in the National League. Should be fun when Carrasco and Quintana come riding in on their white horses to help throw gasoline on the tire fire. This team was supposed to be built on its pitching. Helluva build there, Eppler. Another not so fun fact that Gary laid on the viewers during the nightcap was...get this...this year's Mets pitching staff is the WORST at this point in a season since the inaugural season of the franchise in 1962...a team that still holds the MLB record for futility with 120 losses. Good times...

[Gugny]

2 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

 

@Gugny

 

Scherzer is now the 'proud' owner of a 5.56 ERA and a 1.41 WHIP. WTF...I thought David Peterson had been demoted to Syracuse but, apparently, he's alive and well and has taken over Max's body. Detroit was hitting nobody coming into this series...and I mean NOBODY...but leave it to the underachieving Mets and their decrepit 'ace' to right the listing Tigers' ship and turn them into the 1927 'Murderers Row' Yankees. Would anyone really be surprised at this point if Verlander's season debut ended in a Motor City Kitty sweep? I wouldn't. 'The Mess' have now lost 8 of their last 10 games with 6 of those 8 losses coming to the Giants, Natalies, & Tigers. Those are the games you're supposed to be taking advantage of to climb the standings.

 

This sh*t show of a staff has allowed more HRs than any other team in the National League. Should be fun when Carrasco and Quintana come riding in on their white horses to help throw gasoline on the tire fire. This team was supposed to be built on its pitching. Helluva build there, Eppler. Another not so fun fact that Gary laid on the viewers during the nightcap was...get this...this year's Mets pitching staff is the WORST at this point in a season since the inaugural season of the franchise in 1962...a team that still holds the MLB record for futility with 120 losses. Good times...

I hear ya, man. No disagreement from me. 
 

My biggest disappointment is Ottavino. He is f*cking killing us. 

[SinceThe70s]

Welcome to the Mets Justin, you fit right in!  3 batters, 2 HRs!

 

 

[ExWNYer]

@Gugny@SinceThe70s@Another Fan

 

So Verlander got the first out of the game and then allowed back-to-back HRs. Awesome.

[Gugny]

3 hours ago, ExWNYer said:

@Gugny@SinceThe70s@Another Fan

 

So Verlander got the first out of the game and then allowed back-to-back HRs. Awesome.

Overall, he pitched very well for his first start of the season. 
 

Bullpen also did their job. 
 

Losing 2-0 to the Tigers is pathetic.

Managing just two hits is even worse. 
Getting swept is downright embarrassing. 
 

Thats the sixth time we’ve been shutout this season already. 
 

A three-game sweep of the Rockies should happen. Gotta right this ship ASAP. 

[Another Fan]

I was watching a documentary on Bob Hurley the famous high school coach the other night.  I know it's a totally different atmosphere and sport but would love to see or know of Buck delivering a speech as in the 1st 3 minutes below.  NSFW

 

 

 

I watched the highlights and could give Nimmo a little bit of a pass because that's very rare that kind of mental mistake like that in the 9th inning.  But the team plays with no passion/fire/has no motivation.  They are just whatever at this point.  Overpaid athletes not worth getting worked up over.  

 

[ExWNYer]

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

Overall, he pitched very well for his first start of the season. 
 

Bullpen also did their job. 
 

Losing 2-0 to the Tigers is pathetic.

Managing just two hits is even worse. 
Getting swept is downright embarrassing. 
 

Thats the sixth time we’ve been shutout this season already. 
 

A three-game sweep of the Rockies should happen. Gotta right this ship ASAP. 

 

I agree. It was disappointing to see Verlander give up those back-to-back jacks but make no mistake, he is NOT the reason they lost that game. It's just annoying that every starting pitcher on the team is allowing HRs at an alarming rate. The team starting ERA is over 5.5 and the WHIP is pushing 1.5. What is that?!

 

I was griping about the lack of power on this team last year and Eppler did nothing to change anything. They are a 'work out walks and play station-to-station team' and that does not play well over long stretches in today's game. Today they only walked once and struck out 11 times and over the course of the last two games they managed a grand total of 1 run on a combined 8 hits.

 

I don't expect a sweep of the Rockies because A) Colorado has played really well in their series with the Brewers and B) the Mess are 2-9 over their last 11 with 7 of those 9 losses coming against the Giants, Natalies, & Tigers. I know it's baseball and tomorrow can look completely different than today but, until they prove otherwise, I don't trust them to beat the scrub teams they should be beating. They just got swept by the lowly Tigers. One win against Colorado would be a start (albeit a bad one).

[SinceThe70s]

 

Two points on a Thursday night after getting swept by the Tigers despite starting Scherzer and Verlander in two of the games:

 

When I picked up my kid at HS I was still fixated on Verlander giving up 2 HR's to the first three batters he faced in his Mets debut. My kid said he was the new DeGrom, no run support - love that kid!

 

This opener from a NY Post article sums up my mindset perfectly:

 

It’s getting to that point of the baseball calendar where it is still early enough to remind yourself, and all of your panicky friends, that it is a long season, that there are still 130 games left, that one month is no time to start building basement shelters for protection from the falling sky.

But it’s also deep enough to acknowledge some troubling realities.

 

[SinceThe70s]

A Friday night rant about the pitch clock. I still detest that a ball or strike can be called despite a pitch never being thrown, it's utter BS. But in fairness for the most part players have adapted. As a result, games are being played much faster - and I don't like it. I totally get that the constant crotch-grabbing and stepping out by batters and pitchers that resulted in 4 hour games needed to be addressed, a 4 hour game is way too long. But for my taste the 2 1/2  hour game (or less - tonights game was 2 hours 10 minutes) is too short.  

 

 

[ExWNYer]

43 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

A Friday night rant about the pitch clock. I still detest that a ball or strike can be called despite a pitch never being thrown, it's utter BS. But in fairness for the most part players have adapted. As a result, games are being played much faster - and I don't like it. I totally get that the constant crotch-grabbing and stepping out by batters and pitchers that resulted in 4 hour games needed to be addressed, a 4 hour game is way too long. But for my taste the 2 1/2  hour game (or less - tonights game was 2 hours 10 minutes) is too short.  

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MLB doesn't care about old coots like you and me despite the fact that we are their core audience. They want these fast moving games in the hopes of reeling in the cellphone-addicted, short attention-spanned, brain-dead youth who would rather watch two hours of TikTok videos than the Great American Pastime.

 

[SinceThe70s]

1 minute ago, ExWNYer said:

 

MLB doesn't care about old coots like you and me despite the fact that we are their core audience. They want these fast moving games in the hopes of reeling in the cellphone-addicted, short attention-spanned, brain-dead youth who would rather watch two hours of TikTok videos than the Great American Pastime.

 

 

I hear ya, but I'm skeptical that folks younger than you and I will be drawn in just cuz the games are shorter.  Off the top of my head I could take this convo in a number of directions. 

 

Keeping it to us old coots - I was looking at ticket prices today and the shortened game length made it less appealing for me to spend on the cost of a ticket and parking for a night out with friends/family. One of my great joys in life is shooting the sh!t with friends/family on a relaxed summer night at the ballpark. JMO, but reducing that time to 2 1/2 hours or less is a step in the wrong direction - but again I acknowledge that the 4 hour game due to crotch-grabbing was worth eliminating.

 

 

[ExWNYer]

39 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

I hear ya, but I'm skeptical that folks younger than you and I will be drawn in just cuz the games are shorter.  Off the top of my head I could take this convo in a number of directions. 

 

Keeping it to us old coots - I was looking at ticket prices today and the shortened game length made it less appealing for me to spend on the cost of a ticket and parking for a night out with friends/family. One of my great joys in life is shooting the sh!t with friends/family on a relaxed summer night at the ballpark. JMO, but reducing that time to 2 1/2 hours or less is a step in the wrong direction - but again I acknowledge that the 4 hour game due to crotch-grabbing was worth eliminating.

 

 

 

I agree with you and I don't believe that simply shortening games will draw younger eyeballs either but I think MLB does. The majority of their audience is over 50 and they are desperate to stay relevant for future generations. When we were kids I believe the time of the average game was similar to what we have now (too lazy right now to go look it up) but they didn't seem rushed like they do now. The games started getting bogged down somewhere along the line with batters stepping out of the box to adjust their gloves, crotch, helmet and do whatever other OCD quirks and superstitions they had coupled with managers changing pitchers after every batter. They definitely had to do something but I don't have those answers. This is all definitely a work in progress and will take some getting used to, at least for me.

 

The rule I hate the most is the ghost runner in extra innings. If I or anyone else have watched a game past the ninth inning do they really think we're leaving now?? I don't need the game shortened at that point. I'm invested and want to see it to its conclusion and the cat and mouse that goes along with determining the outcome. I also agree that one of the great joys in life is shooting the sh!t with friends/family at a ballgame. You don't need to pay attention to every second of the game which is part of the charm and beauty and it's a bonding/social event as much as anything else. The smell of the grass, the manicured field, the smell of the concessions, and the buzz of the crowd are magnificent and add to the magic and the ambiance. Baseball is the most beautiful of games, IMO, and I think you either like it and get it or you don't just like soccer for many people. If it weren't for baseball and my beloved, albeit frustrating, Mets the Bills off-season would be interminably longer than it already is.