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[Another Fan]

7 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

 

I don't know enough about Quintana to have a strong opinion. But I do like 2 his year deal over the 4 years Walker got.

 

BTW - did you see that Kenley Jansen signed with the Red Sox? Any idea if the Braves have a plan to replace him? 

 

Most these pitchers mentioned and players I don't either.  Outside of the Mets there's only a few teams I know a little about.

 

 

My reaction is actually sort of like when the Bills drafted Josh:  Time will tell if this is the right move or not.

 

 

Now the Bills brass really did their due diligence scouting Josh because that was the right move (or they got really lucky).  So all I could hope for is the Mets due their due diligence as well.  Certainly beyond what these guys stats are and think they are they the right fight for the club.  Especially come September/October.  Because the Scherzer outing against the Padres still boils my blood and feel he should be docked some of his pay.  

[SinceThe70s]

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

Ticking off the boxes - Nimmo signed long term and Robertson joins the bullpen.

 

I expect Nimmo will be a corner outfielder in a year or two.

[Gugny]

39 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

Ticking off the boxes - Nimmo signed long term and Robertson joins the bullpen.

 

I expect Nimmo will be a corner outfielder in a year or two.

 

LOVE both moves!

[ExWNYer]

2 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

Ticking off the boxes - Nimmo signed long term and Robertson joins the bullpen.

 

I expect Nimmo will be a corner outfielder in a year or two.

 

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

LOVE both moves!

 

I said during last season that I wanted Nimmo re-signed. I love him as a player but am shocked that he got $162 million. I thought anything over $125 million for him would be a stretch. Boras is a wizard. Thrilled with the Robertson signing. I wanted him last year and believe he could have made a real difference for them last season. My only worry at this point is that this team still does not have enough punch/power in the lineup. If Alvarez and Baty don't mature quickly during the season, this team could be royally screwed.

[Gugny]

9 hours ago, ExWNYer said:

 

 

I said during last season that I wanted Nimmo re-signed. I love him as a player but am shocked that he got $162 million. I thought anything over $125 million for him would be a stretch. Boras is a wizard. Thrilled with the Robertson signing. I wanted him last year and believe he could have made a real difference for them last season. My only worry at this point is that this team still does not have enough punch/power in the lineup. If Alvarez and Baty don't mature quickly during the season, this team could be royally screwed.

 

If we (they) learned anything from watching the Braves, it's that it took WAY too long to get Baty and Alvarez into the mix.  I think both will benefit from a full spring training and beginning the season on the roster.

 

And I agree ... I would feel much better if we had one more big bat.

[Gugny]

@ExWNYer @Another Fan @SinceThe70s

 

Kodai Senga - 5 years, $75 million.

 

Bassitt just went to Toronto on a 3-year, $63M deal.

 

Looking at Senga's stats in Japan (from ESPN: "Senga, 29, starred over 11 seasons with the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks of Nippon Professional Baseball, going 104-51 with a 2.42 ERA in 1,340⅔ innings over 275 starts. He is armed with a fastball that has reached triple digits and a split-fingered fastball nicknamed "the Ghost Fork" for how it disappears before reaching the plate."), I think this looks like a win for everyone involved.

 

Finally got a young arm.  I'm fine with five years at his age and $15 million/year could end up being one hell of a bargain.

[SinceThe70s]

15 minutes ago, Gugny said:

@ExWNYer @Another Fan @SinceThe70s

 

Kodai Senga - 5 years, $75 million.

 

Bassitt just went to Toronto on a 3-year, $63M deal.

 

Looking at Senga's stats in Japan (from ESPN: "Senga, 29, starred over 11 seasons with the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks of Nippon Professional Baseball, going 104-51 with a 2.42 ERA in 1,340⅔ innings over 275 starts. He is armed with a fastball that has reached triple digits and a split-fingered fastball nicknamed "the Ghost Fork" for how it disappears before reaching the plate."), I think this looks like a win for everyone involved.

 

Finally got a young arm.  I'm fine with five years at his age and $15 million/year could end up being one hell of a bargain.

 

I'm not used to getting everything we need - they filled out that rotation quickly! If this guy pans out it's a great deal, especially since we got younger. Hopefully in the next year or so we're rotating in some combination of Alvarez/Baty/Vientos and rotating out guys like Escobar/Canha/McCann.

 

What's crazy to me is the length of contracts being given out. I suppose it gives teams cost certainty, but it seems like more often than not the long term deals become albatrosses.

 

 

 

 

[Gugny]

26 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

I'm not used to getting everything we need - they filled out that rotation quickly! If this guy pans out it's a great deal, especially since we got younger. Hopefully in the next year or so we're rotating in some combination of Alvarez/Baty/Vientos and rotating out guys like Escobar/Canha/McCann.

 

What's crazy to me is the length of contracts being given out. I suppose it gives teams cost certainty, but it seems like more often than not the long term deals become albatrosses.

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I've never been a fan of megadeals (one more reason to hate Alex Rodriguez), but it's just where baseball is.

 

Not a megadeal, but I'm still floored that deGrom got five years with his injury history.  I am so glad the Mets didn't do that (if they'd had the chance, anyway).  

 

If Alvarez, Baty AND Vientos all turn out to be the answer at their respective positions, then the Mets are gonna be good for a long, long time.  Here's to hoping!!

[ExWNYer]

6 hours ago, Gugny said:

@ExWNYer @Another Fan @SinceThe70s

 

Kodai Senga - 5 years, $75 million.

 

Bassitt just went to Toronto on a 3-year, $63M deal.

 

Looking at Senga's stats in Japan (from ESPN: "Senga, 29, starred over 11 seasons with the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks of Nippon Professional Baseball, going 104-51 with a 2.42 ERA in 1,340⅔ innings over 275 starts. He is armed with a fastball that has reached triple digits and a split-fingered fastball nicknamed "the Ghost Fork" for how it disappears before reaching the plate."), I think this looks like a win for everyone involved.

 

Finally got a young arm.  I'm fine with five years at his age and $15 million/year could end up being one hell of a bargain.

 

Agree. Gugs. I was hoping they would land Senga. I hope he assimilates well to the majors. As I said before, I think he could be a decent reliever, if he doesn't do so well in the middle/backend of the rotation. I liked Bassitt but he left a sour taste in my mouth at the end of the season and, based on some of his comments, I don't think he was made for the pressure of NYC. He had some thinly-veiled excuses for his performance down the stretch. Out with the old, in with the new. LGM!

[SinceThe70s]

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

You guys got any info/feels on Correa? I had heard on the radio that Correa would only move to 3rd for the Mets and scoffed at it.

 

Tonight my son said that Correa to the Mets is still a talking point. I think he gets his sh!t from bleacher report - does that make it less credible?  Seems like a long shot to me - except that many players are getting long term contracts.

 

Put a different way: would you put it past Cohen to pony up the $$$ for Correa in the hope we win the WS in the next two years? (His initial goal was within 3)

[Gugny]

16 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

@ExWNYer @Gugny @Another Fan

 

You guys got any info/feels on Correa? I had heard on the radio that Correa would only move to 3rd for the Mets and scoffed at it.

 

Tonight my son said that Correa to the Mets is still a talking point. I think he gets his sh!t from bleacher report - does that make it less credible?  Seems like a long shot to me - except that many players are getting long term contracts.

 

Put a different way: would you put it past Cohen to pony up the $$$ for Correa in the hope we win the WS in the next two years? (His initial goal was within 3)

 

I need to scour the interwebs more, but my gut tells me I would NOT put it past Cohen.

[SinceThe70s]

8 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

I need to scour the interwebs more, but my gut tells me I would NOT put it past Cohen.

 

LOL, cancel that search- looks like 13 years $350 million was too rich for Cohen.

 

[Gugny]

19 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

LOL, cancel that search- looks like 13 years $350 million was too rich for Cohen.

 

HOLY CRAP!!!

[SinceThe70s]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

HOLY CRAP!!!

 

I find these long term deals mind-boggling. At some point I wonder if bottom feeders like the Pirates will benefit from young talent coming in and not having a runway to land on.

[ExWNYer]

Landing Correa was never going to happen. Even Cohen has a limit. They are already historically over the tax threshold. If they weren't going to spend for Rodon, they certainly weren't going spend even more for Correa.

[SinceThe70s]

2 hours ago, ExWNYer said:

Landing Correa was never going to happen. Even Cohen has a limit. They are already historically over the tax threshold. If they weren't going to spend for Rodon, they certainly weren't going spend even more for Correa.

 

Well, everyone has their limit - but I'm not sure we know what Cohen's is yet. In hindsight I wouldn't want or expect Cohen to sign on the dotted line of a 13 year deal, but beyond that none of his actions thus far have hinted at what his limit is. Correa had to settle for a one year deal with the Minnesota Twins last year and for whatever reason didn't appear to be highly sought until the he signed his monster deal - so it wouldn't have surprised me in the least if Cohen would've offered half as much as he got over lets say 4-5 years. BTW, not saying he would've or should've done that, just that I'm in a place where I have no idea what his limit is since he already exceeded my expectation this off season - and I wouldn't be  surprised at all if he spent more money to upgrade DH.

[ExWNYer]

6 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Well, everyone has their limit - but I'm not sure we know what Cohen's is yet. In hindsight I wouldn't want or expect Cohen to sign on the dotted line of a 13 year deal, but beyond that none of his actions thus far have hinted at what his limit is. Correa had to settle for a one year deal with the Minnesota Twins last year and for whatever reason didn't appear to be highly sought until the he signed his monster deal - so it wouldn't have surprised me in the least if Cohen would've offered half as much as he got over lets say 4-5 years. BTW, not saying he would've or should've done that, just that I'm in a place where I have no idea what his limit is since he already exceeded my expectation this off season - and I wouldn't be  surprised at all if he spent more money to upgrade DH.

 

I agree and I wouldn't put anything past Cohen. Rather that emphatically stating, "Landing Correa was never going to happen", I guess I should have phrased it, "I can't see it happening." At what dollar amount does Cohen set his 'line of demarcation'? It's logical to think that even he has to have a point of diminishing returns calculated in his World Series-chasing brain. Nothing about Cohen shocks me anymore but, barring some sort of trade by the front office, I would expect anything else to be a peripheral or complementary move such as a tweak(s) to the bullpen or bench/DH, not a Correa level addition. I can see him adding more money to the payroll, just not a monster/major contract.

[SinceThe70s]

2 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:

 

I agree and I wouldn't put anything past Cohen. Rather that emphatically stating, "Landing Correa was never going to happen", I guess I should have phrased it, "I can't see it happening." At what dollar amount does Cohen set his 'line of demarcation'? It's logical to think that even he has to have a point of diminishing returns calculated in his World Series-chasing brain. Nothing about Cohen shocks me anymore but, barring some sort of trade by the front office, I would expect anything else to be a peripheral or complementary move such as a tweak(s) to the bullpen or bench/DH, not a Correa level addition. I can see him adding more money to the payroll, just not a monster/major contract.

 

Agreed.  I'm not expecting another big move either. If anything I could see salary dumps of McCann or Carrasco - but that's what a normal team would look to do so who knows?

[ExWNYer]

2 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Agreed.  I'm not expecting another big move either. If anything I could see salary dumps of McCann or Carrasco - but that's what a normal team would look to do so who knows?

 

 

[Gugny]

Syndergaard to the Dodgers.  One year, $13 million.  Angels gave him $21 million for one year last season.