par73 Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 Clements over Gilmore-- and Winfield over Clements.
Gregsbills 74 Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 Neither. Give me Antoine Winfield. He is one player that the Bills should have kept. Yes,Winfield was awesome.
KD in CA Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 Neither. Give me Antoine Winfield. He is one player that the Bills should have kept. Hell yes.
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 Neither. Give me Antoine Winfield. He is one player that the Bills should have kept.The one player? Not Phat Pat Williams?
Bad Things Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 Nate was The Man, back in the day. Gilmore? c'mon. Not even close.
Mark Vader Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 That is a tough one. Nate Clements was better in Buffalo, but he did not do as well with the 49ers or Bengals. Nate was more consistent with the Bills. Gilmore has the opportunity to surpass Clements with superior coaching cheating in New England. Fixed
GunnerBill Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 Gilmore. Gilmore. Gilmore. And in a tie? Gilmore.
Bill from NYC Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) Not even close imo. I would MUCH rather have Clements in his prime that Gilmore 2x. I wasn't happy when the Bills drafted Clements in round 1 (I was hoping that they went with Steve Hutchinson) but it should be noted that the Bills drafted Clements at #21, after trading back from 14 and picking up another 2nd round pick. Of course they wasted it on Travis Henry, but this is for another debate. Clements was just a better player than Gilmore in every imaginable way. What they did have in common was a fierce desire to get out of Buffalo. I remember Nate's wife even talking about it. Edited March 30, 2017 by Bill from NYC
Chandler#81 Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 Clements. But for Best Ever Bill CB, Butch Byrd.
Bill from NYC Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 Nate > Gilmore > Lil AntoineFair enough but I'm gonna run with Nate > Winfield > Gilmore.
Norwood for Wall of Fame Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 I'm not sure why there is so much fuss around Gilmore. He may be talented, but he mailed in 2-3 games per season when he got torched. He made Ryan Fitzpatrick look like Johnny Unitas this year in week 2.
ProcessAccepted Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 Neither. Give me Antoine Winfield. He is one player that the Bills should have kept. If we're throwing out other names I have to say I was sad to see Nate Odomes head to the Seahawks. Though it may be time to let that one go!! I'm not sure why there is so much fuss around Gilmore. He may be talented, but he mailed in 2-3 games per season when he got torched. He made Ryan Fitzpatrick look like Johnny Unitas this year in week 2. Agreed. That one play last year against the Dolphins summed it all up.
SMAKCruiser Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 I like this thread....I'd take Antoine Winfield......I feel that he had better cover skills than both.....He wasn't going to get the picks that the other two would get but he was better lock down defender.....Heck, I might even take an in his prime Thomas Smith over Gilmore and Clements..........I'd take Clements over Gilmore....Gilmore had more bad games. I always thought Smith was underrated. He had the worst hands so his interceptions stats were always awful, but I think as far as pure coverage goes, he's as good as anyone we've had over the past 25 years.
thebandit27 Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 I was a big fan of each guy, but for me, it's Gilmore Clements definitely had better ball skills, but Gilmore was a stickier coverage guy. I also didn't like that Clements would dance after allowing a 15-yard completion for a 1st down. Ready for me to really ruffle some feathers? I'd take Jabari Greer over any of them.
Stranded in Boston Posted March 30, 2017 Posted March 30, 2017 Clements. But for Best Ever Bill CB, Butch Byrd. This is actually pretty fun. We've had a lot of good corners through the years. I unfortunately don't remember Butch Byrd, but for my money, Robert James was the best of the bunch (of course, DB play was more bump than run in the early 70s!). I loved Antoine Winfield (fearless tackler), and Thomas Smith was a fantastic cover guy and sticky tackler. And of course Nate Odomes just made plays. I'd take all those guys over Gilmore, although it's so hard to compare with all the rules now hindering DBs.
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