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They wanted to fire him in Arizona so they could leave him in the desert without water.

 

 

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Hearing if #Bills do part ways w GM Doug Whaley, #Panthers dir of player personnel Don Gregory is not a potential replacement, as reported.

Louis Riddick was up for the 49ers job and has Philly connections to McDermott. I would think he is a more likely choice if it were to happen.

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Louis Riddick was up for the 49ers job and has Philly connections to McDermott. I would think he is a more likely choice if it were to happen.

 

If we get rid of Whaley, no need to do an extensive GM search for the best candidate. Just hire one of McDermott's buddies.

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If we get rid of Whaley, no need to do an extensive GM search for the best candidate. Just hire one of McDermott's buddies.

He's actually a great candidate for the job with or without any ties to McDermott.

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60 minutes is airing a segment tonight called "The Truth about Fake News." Since CBS employs Lacanfora, perhaps he will make an appearance ;)

:lol:

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I feel a lot of these people so upset with Doug Whaley are simply jealous he has their dream job. How many players turned their career around once Doug brought them in. How many scrap heap surprises. Be grateful for what he's done and hope he gets better or pound the table for a Dougie snuff film, whatever gets you off. Thanks Dougie fresh

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Why should it?

 

Anyway, this is what Doug does as "part of the representation":

 

"We're secure with our quarterback position. Obviously we're all in with EJ, and with Thad (Lewis) and Dennis Dixon and Jeff Tuel," Whaley said from the NFL Annual Meeting in Orlando, Fla. "We're really excited with what we bring to the table at that position."

 

Any GM that goes into training camp with Manuel, Lewis, and Tuel as his Quarterbacks not just once, but twice shouldn't be a GM in the NFL.

 

Did I also mention that the GM has a losing record and zero playoff appearances in his 7 year tenure with the Bills including four as GM.

 

I really don't get the Whaley love from some on here...I mean he's a better GM than a 107 year old Marv Levy or marketing whiz Russ Brandon, but that is setting the bar pretty low. Dougie is a good scout especially on the D side of the ball, but overmatched in all other areas of being a GM.

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What year did Whaley actually become the GM? For real, officially. When did he become the man in charge?

 

Nix retired May 13, Whaley officially announced as GM May 16, 2013

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Louis Riddick was up for the 49ers job and has Philly connections to McDermott. I would think he is a more likely choice if it were to happen.

That would be ironic. Riddick and Whaley played together at Pitt.

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Nix retired May 13, Whaley officially announced as GM May 16, 2013

Thank you! I'd prefer to only examine what has happened since then. This whining about decades of suffering is weak and annoying. I get it, but grow up. New owners, clock starts over, new era coming.

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Maybe I am misremembering, but didn't the Peugla's back off on this coaching search and let Whaley find the candidates and make recommendations on who to hire. So basically LaCanfora is saying Whaley went out and found the guy who would get him fired four months later. Yeah, sounds like it makes sense.


 

Any GM that goes into training camp with Manuel, Lewis, and Tuel as his Quarterbacks not just once, but twice shouldn't be a GM in the NFL.

 

Did I also mention that the GM has a losing record and zero playoff appearances in his 7 year tenure with the Bills including four as GM.

 

I really don't get the Whaley love from some on here...I mean he's a better GM than a 107 year old Marv Levy or marketing whiz Russ Brandon, but that is setting the bar pretty low. Dougie is a good scout especially on the D side of the ball, but overmatched in all other areas of being a GM.

When Marrone went to Jacksonville, didn't Tuel follow him there? And wasn't Marrone involved in the selection of Manuel? Didn't Rex want Tyrod from Baltimore, but yeah okay it's all Whaley's fault.

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Maybe I am misremembering, but didn't the Peugla's back off on this coaching search and let Whaley find the candidates and make recommendations on who to hire. So basically LaCanfora is saying Whaley went out and found the guy who would get him fired four months later. Yeah, sounds like it makes sense.

When Marrone went to Jacksonville, didn't Tuel follow him there? And wasn't Marrone involved in the selection of Manuel? Didn't Rex want Tyrod from Baltimore, but yeah okay it's all Whaley's fault.

 

Didn't say it was all Whaley's fault, but he bears a lot of responsibilty for the last seven years of failure, especially the last 4.

 

I have no idea how much Marrone was involved in the selection of Manuel. Their are reports though that Bills coaches went to Whaley after the 2013 season and said that Manuel just isn't good enough. We also have multiple reports of Marrone going nuts when they traded up for Watkins because he didn't want to trade an additional first round pick if it didn't involve getting a QB. We also have Marrone going ape crap on Whaley and Co. in training camp and then they traded for Orton so I'm not exactly sure how big of an EJ fan Marrone was. We do know from Whaley's words and actions that he was a very firm believer in EJ for years.

 

Thank god Rex pushed for Tyrod because if he didn't I shudder to think of the QB's that Whaley would have had out there. Without Tyrod, Whaley would have went to camp with Manuel, Tuel, Lewis back to back then Manuel, Cassel, Simms...yikes.

 

Whaley isn't good enough.

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Didn't say it was all Whaley's fault, but he bears a lot of responsibilty for the last seven years of failure, especially the last 4.

 

I have no idea how much Marrone was involved in the selection of Manuel. Their are reports though that Bills coaches went to Whaley after the 2013 season and said that Manuel just isn't good enough. We also have multiple reports of Marrone going nuts when they traded up for Watkins because he didn't want to trade an additional first round pick if it didn't involve getting a QB. We also have Marrone going ape crap on Whaley and Co. in training camp and then they traded for Orton so I'm not exactly sure how big of an EJ fan Marrone was. We do know from Whaley's words and actions that he was a very firm believer in EJ for years.

 

Thank god Rex pushed for Tyrod because if he didn't I shudder to think of the QB's that Whaley would have had out there. Without Tyrod, Whaley would have went to camp with Manuel, Tuel, Lewis back to back then Manuel, Cassel, Simms...yikes.

 

Whaley isn't good enough.

That just shows that at the most important position in the game Whaley just doesn't have it. I agree with what you wrote. Marrone could see EJ didnt have it lobbied to get someone else in camp late......Rex could see it also and lobbied for TT. Without the coach's input we would of had a solid 4 years of watching EJ flounder. That pass in the flat he missed against the Jets in the finale said it all to me. Nice big, strong young man......starting NFL QB----nope. Whaley has now added Jones....another big, strong young man but this one is immature, bails back to Ohio and most likely will never get it, lets be honest. Watkins and Ragland were not worth giving up the depth that was traded away with a no. 1 pick and three 4's . We could use 4 guys on 4 year contracts right now. I would hire DW as a pro personnel guy any day....but a guy to work the draft, manage the cap, have a long term strategy of the team he's want to assemble, nope I would pass.

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60 minutes is airing a segment tonight called "The Truth about Fake News." Since CBS employs Lacanfora, perhaps he will make an appearance ;)

can a fake news site do a truth segment about fake news? seems to be a bit of a conflict of interest there.

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Any GM that goes into training camp with Manuel, Lewis, and Tuel as his Quarterbacks not just once, but twice shouldn't be a GM in the NFL.

 

Did I also mention that the GM has a losing record and zero playoff appearances in his 7 year tenure with the Bills including four as GM.

 

I really don't get the Whaley love from some on here...I mean he's a better GM than a 107 year old Marv Levy or marketing whiz Russ Brandon, but that is setting the bar pretty low. Dougie is a good scout especially on the D side of the ball, but overmatched in all other areas of being a GM.

Did you fail to mention that the coach he had in the first two years abandoned the baby they made together and left him with it? Did you also fail to mention that the owner of the team insist he hire a "never was" car dalesman that fired our DC that had the best D we have seen in 15 years at the time because he was the "D Guru of the NFL"? Did you forget about that. You haters fail to remember the bad stuff that was given to his 4 years as a GM and fail to mention the finds and signings he has had at other key positions and focus on the one position the team has not had right in 17 years and that is the QB. But hey, we dont know what we are talking about because you people say so.
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