BuffaloBud420 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 Dennison definitely had a say though. The Bills could have declined TT's option and signed Cutler for less than that. They did not do that. They clearly preferred Tyrod to Cutler (I would assume that the overwhelming majority of the NFL feels the same way). It doesn't mean that Cutler is awful, it just means that he is a lesser player than Taylor today. The numbers certainly support that. They prefer Taylor but Cutler would be better backup option.
FireChan Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) Dennison definitely had a say though. The Bills could have declined TT's option and signed Cutler for less than that. They did not do that. They clearly preferred Tyrod to Cutler (I would assume that the overwhelming majority of the NFL feels the same way). It doesn't mean that Cutler is awful, it just means that he is a lesser player than Taylor today. The numbers certainly support that. Again, I'm not disputing that Dennison had a say in retaining TT. I'm saying that no OC in the NFL is marrying a QB as his "guy" for years because he had a couple good practices 3 years ago. I still have no doubt if Cutty was out #2, it would be TT's job to lose. But get Cutty in a system he's had success in, with a change of scenery, and he could push TT IMO. It wasn't that long ago he was a better QB than 20th in the NFL. Remember that Dennison didn't love TT enough to want to keep him at the original contract. It's not all rainbows and lollipops. Edited March 22, 2017 by FireChan
turftoe Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Stay away from this guy. I don't want him on my team if he came for free, especially if we draft a guy this year to groom. Cutler isn't the guy you want to mentor the next guy.
nucci Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 I wouldn't want him as a starter. Why would I want him as a backup?
Real McClappy Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) Never disliked Cutler. Bring him in and compete with Taylor as the starter. Why backup? Competition might be what Cutler actually needs to wake the hell up. He has the tools and has demonstrated he can be a top10 QB in the past. People forgot the swiss cheese O-lines that Chicago has given him the last 3 years. Oh, then get rid of Forte and Marshall. lol We are still in QB purg! Edited March 22, 2017 by Real McCoy
oldmanfan Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 He is this generation's Jeff George. Tons of physical talent but does not take advantage of it because of his arrogance and attitude. If the Bills are going to sign a vet who no one else wants as a QB, it would make more sense to sign Kaepernick or Griffin. They at least have similar physical traits to TT and thus you wouldn't have to have a separate offense to run with if TT went down. Chicago prefers Mike Glennon to Cutler. That should tell you what you need to know.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 He is this generation's Jeff George. Tons of physical talent but does not take advantage of it because of his arrogance and attitude. If the Bills are going to sign a vet who no one else wants as a QB, it would make more sense to sign Kaepernick or Griffin. They at least have similar physical traits to TT and thus you wouldn't have to have a separate offense to run with if TT went down. Chicago prefers Mike Glennon to Cutler. That should tell you what you need to know. ...and the Jets preferred McCown to Cutler as well............
BuffaloBud420 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 Never disliked Cutler. Bring him in and compete with Taylor as the starter. Why backup? Competition might be what Cutler actually needs to wake the hell up. He has the tools and has demonstrated he can be a top10 QB in the past. We are still in QB purg! Good point. Competition is always a good thing
FireChan Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 I wouldn't want him as a starter. Why would I want him as a backup? Because all backups are guys you don't want starting for the most part?
starrymessenger Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 I think Cutler would retire before he would come to Buffalo to backup Tyrod at a cheap salary. Yeah He'd probably beat out TT for the job. Yeah
msw2112 Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 I lived in Chicago for many of the Cutler years. Although he has improved slightly, the guy is a turnover machine. He also has a bad attitude and is not a team guy. Aside from all of that, he is a very talented passer who would present a threat to Taylor and I think that his presence would be bad for team chemistry. He'd take camp and practice snaps away from Cardale, slowing his development, and have (as another poster mentioned earlier) Taylor looking over his shoulder. Every time Taylor makes a mistake, fans would be clamoring for Cutler. On top of all of this, I don't believe he'd work on the cheap. He has made enough money in his career to retire, so I believe (also stated by another poster) that he would rather retire than settle for a backup role and/or backup money. All signs point to NO with this guy. A more appropriate type of backup would be the role that a Shaun Hill or Matt Hasselbeck have played for their teams in recent years. Team-first guys with good attitudes who are fine being the backup and will help both the starter in front of them on the depth chart as well as the young developmental guy beneath them.
Luxy312 Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Who got starting jobs ahead of Cutler? Glennon, Hoyer, Foles, McCown to name 4. Who got backup jobs ahead of Cutler? Jones, Barkley, Smith, Manuel, & Moore. Let that sink in. E.J. Manuel got a backup job ahead of Cutler. What does that tell you, at a minimum, about what Cutler is bringing to the table? Baggage and plenty of it. Pass.
BuffaloBud420 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 Who got starting jobs ahead of Cutler? Glennon, Hoyer, Foles, McCown to name 4. Who got backup jobs ahead of Cutler? Jones, Barkley, Smith, Manuel, & Moore. Let that sink in. E.J. Manuel got a backup job ahead of Cutler. What does that tell you, at a minimum, about what Cutler is bringing to the table? Baggage and plenty of it. Pass. Cutler is better than Cardale. Taylor is injury prone. Easy as that.
FireChan Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Who got starting jobs ahead of Cutler? Glennon, Hoyer, Foles, McCown to name 4. Who got backup jobs ahead of Cutler? Jones, Barkley, Smith, Manuel, & Moore. Let that sink in. E.J. Manuel got a backup job ahead of Cutler. What does that tell you, at a minimum, about what Cutler is bringing to the table? Baggage and plenty of it. Pass. EJ didn't get a backup job. He got a camp body job.
Big Turk Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Hell no...backups are getting paid $7-8 million these days with any type of credentials. Draft one for $600K Cutler is better than Cardale. Taylor is injury prone. Easy as that. Not $6.5-7 million better....dude is a turnover machine
Kirby Jackson Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Again, I'm not disputing that Dennison had a say in retaining TT. I'm saying that no OC in the NFL is marrying a QB as his "guy" for years because he had a couple good practices 3 years ago. I still have no doubt if Cutty was out #2, it would be TT's job to lose. But get Cutty in a system he's had success in, with a change of scenery, and he could push TT IMO. It wasn't that long ago he was a better QB than 20th in the NFL. Remember that Dennison didn't love TT enough to want to keep him at the original contract. It's not all rainbows and lollipops. All that I am saying is that they could have had either/or with Cutler making less. They still chose TT. You originally said, "cutler will probably beat him out." That is what I disputed. If the Bills believed he was better they could have gotten him for $10M a year or so and let TT walk.
Captain Murica Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 Cutler is better than Cardale. Taylor is injury prone. Easy as that. False.
BuffaloBud420 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 False. How? He was on injury report all the time
Kirby Jackson Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 How? He was on injury report all the timeHe has missed 2 games in 2 years to injury.
BuffaloBud420 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 He has missed 2 games in 2 years to injury. He played through injuries. Fact. That will catch up to him.
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