BuffaloBud420 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) On paper these last few years, we may have had the most talent on this roster since the Super Bowl teams. Unfortunately we don't have number 12 behind center. It always comes down to QB. I would draft one this year in first 3 rounds just to have another option if Tyrod doesn't finally step up. However you are only as good as your QB in this league and if things continue not to workout at that position. Whaley has to go. Edited March 21, 2017 by BuffaloBud420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 On paper these last few years, we may have had the most talent on this roster since the Super Bowl teams. Unfortunately we don't have number 12 behind center. It always comes down to QB. I would draft one this year in first 3 rounds just to have another option if Tyrod doesn't finally step up. However you are only as good as your QB in this league and if things continue not to workout at that position. Whaley has to go. No. 2013 - zero players retained 2014 - 1 maybe 2 players retained No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 So, other than that, how did you enjoy the play, Mrs. Lincoln? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 How many people do you think the Buffalo Bills or even Russ Brandon employ to spread propaganda on Bills message boards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Another bad post from this poster. And another thread started to knock TT. What a surprise. How many people do you think the Buffalo Bills or even Russ Brandon employ to spread propaganda on Bills message boards? Sure there were some on the BBMB. Had to be with some of the ridiculous posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 How many people do you think the Buffalo Bills or even Russ Brandon employ to spread propaganda on Bills message boards? 0. Being a contrarian on Internet message boards is a task many folks do just for the attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBud420 Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 No. 2013 - zero players retained 2014 - 1 maybe 2 players retained No. You build through Draft and FA. Name me a better roster since after the 90s that has been better. Maybe 04. That's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 You build through Draft and FA. Name me a better roster since after the 90s that has been better. Maybe 04. That's about it. Are you talking about the roster from 2014 or are you referring to the current Bills roster? Because the current Bills roster just won only 7 games and lost players in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I didn't realize there were so many Baghdad Bob's on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 You build through Draft and FA. Name me a better roster since after the 90s that has been better. Maybe 04. That's about it. You build through the draft. You patch holes in FA. But we aren't building through the draft. I just demonstrated that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 You build through the draft. You patch holes in FA. But we aren't building through the draft. I just demonstrated that. Exhibit 1: Last year the Bills used THREE draft picks on an inside linebacker who had questions about whether he could play all 3 downs. Do you call that building through the draft or trying to win now for Rex's crap defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 So, other than that, how did you enjoy the play, Mrs. Lincoln? Except for the iceberg, the maiden voyage of the Titanic was a rousing success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 You build through Draft and FA. Name me a better roster since after the 90s that has been better. Maybe 04. That's about it. Lol, he gets credit for building a roster that is good for 7-9 but better than some of the worst rosters in Bills history? Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Exhibit 1: Last year the Bills used THREE draft picks on an inside linebacker who had questions about whether he could play all 3 downs. Do you call that building through the draft or trying to win now for Rex's crap defense? There's numerous examples of the Bills patching holes in the draft. 2013 - 2 high rounders on WR's when we had SJ13 and nobody, a 1st on EJ (which is okay) 2014 - Need a WR1 so Sammy trade, need an RT so Kujo, need an LB so Preston Brown 2015 - probably our best year sticking to the board, Darby was all BPA, he was not a need, but Miller sure was 2016 - woah boy. Shaq, Ragland, Washington all need picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Oh, thank goodness! I had feared that the Tyrod and Whaley haters had dried up and blew away or had found a big rock to have a party under. Nope - here they come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Except for the iceberg, the maiden voyage of the Titanic was a rousing success. The whole premise that we can ignore QB is flawed because this is a QB league. But even setting aside and playing along, Whaley fails as a strong GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Rabble rabble rabble!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 There's numerous examples of the Bills patching holes in the draft. 2013 - 2 high rounders on WR's when we had SJ13 and nobody, a 1st on EJ (which is okay) 2014 - Need a WR1 so Sammy trade, need an RT so Kujo, need an LB so Preston Brown 2015 - probably our best year sticking to the board, Darby was all BPA, he was not a need, but Miller sure was 2016 - woah boy. Shaq, Ragland, Washington all need picks. Exactly. Patching holes on a sinking ship... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) No. 2013 - zero players retained 2014 - 1 maybe 2 players retained No. Your quick comment on 2013 is a little misleading. I think we drafted 8 players in that draft. All of them made the team. Most - if not all - started at least one game. They all played and contributed. Kiko was traded for McCoy - a Pro Bowler - who is still on the team. So we got a highly productive Pro Bowler out of that draft. Though I agree if your general point is Whaley is better at acquiring NFL players from other teams than he is at drafting. In any case, wasn't 2013 Nix's last draft? As soon as Nix retired, Whaley made some big changes in the personnel department. In other words, it was Nix's scouts putting together Nix's board until he officially retired after that draft. Whaley was not the de facto GM prior to actually getting the title. Edited March 21, 2017 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 You build through the draft. You patch holes in FA. But we aren't building through the draft. I just demonstrated that. This is just a lazy rehashing of Tim Graham's article that conveniently cherry picked and left out information that makes his argument less believable. Here is the reality of our situation: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/04/how_each_nfl_team_has_-_or_has.html According to this OBJECTIVE article, league average amount of drafted players STARTING for their respective team is 11. Bills are at, wait for it, everyone take a deep breathe, please prepare yourself FireChan for what is about to change your world, 11. There are teams higher that are LOUSY, and teams lower that are great. YOU BUILD BY GETTING TALENT. NOT rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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