Buffalo716 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) Wasn't there some old school Bills player named Walt Pulaski? Any relation? That was Walt Patulski Edited March 22, 2017 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Wasn't there some old school Bills player named Walt Pulaski? Any relation? Walt Patulski. But there is a Pulaski, NY. My car blew a head gasket in Pulaski, New York. We would stay there when we would sound Port Ontario harbor (Mexico Bay, Lake Ontario). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 My kinsman Casimir Pulaski, father of the American cavalry General of the Pulaski cavalry legion Considering the cavalry was historically the most feeble arm of the US Army, and produced only one general of note (J.E.B. Stuart - unless you want to include that !@#$ Nathan Bedford Forrest, which I don't), I wouldn't really give him high marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) Considering the cavalry was historically the most feeble arm of the US Army, and produced only one general of note (J.E.B. Stuart - unless you want to include that !@#$ Nathan Bedford Forrest, which I don't), I wouldn't really give him high marks.He personally saved Washington's life in battle He obviously isn't one of the best Generals of all time but Washington may not have made it through the war if it wasn't for Pulaski's heroics And that's a fact He was also VERY WEALTHY and donated all his $$ to the cause which wasn't his He has parades around the country He is a hero Edited March 22, 2017 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 He personally saved Washington's life in battle He obviously isn't one of the best Generals of all time but Washington may not have made it through the war if it wasn't for Pulaski's heroics And that's a fact He was also VERY WEALTHY and donated all his $$ to the cause which wasn't his He has parades around the country He is a hero Doesn't make him a good general. And this is the "greatest generals" thread, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 Doesn't make him a good general. And this is the "greatest generals" thread, isn't it? Yes and he isn't the greatest. But Father of the American cavalry HAS to count for something But I agree that he isn't one of the best Generals of all time... I just thought founding the American cavalry is significant Where does Sun Tzu sit? Is he worthy of a top 10 spot?? Art of war is a masterpiece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Yes and he isn't the greatest. But Father of the American cavalry HAS to count for something But I agree that he isn't one of the best Generals of all time... I just thought founding the American cavalry is significant Where does Sun Tzu sit? Is he worthy of a top 10 spot?? Art of war is a masterpiece Founding American artillery is significant. American cavalry...its best moment is Stuart riding around McClellan's army in the peninsula, which virtually no one knows about. It's best-known moment is Little Bighorn. That's not exactly a service arm you want to brag about establishing. I'm not saying he was a cretin, but let's not over-exaggerate. He certainly wasn't a Stuart, Seydlitz, Sobieski, or Subotai. Or even a Ney, Murat, or Hephastion. Sun Tzu...there's interestingly very little evidence outside of The Art of War that he even existed, and almost nothing about any battles he led. And while he wrote perhaps the single most important work of military theory in history...a great military theorist is not necessarily a great general. No one lists Jomini or Clausewitz among great generals, or Alfred Thayer Mahan among great admirals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Founding American artillery is significant. American cavalry...its best moment is Stuart riding around McClellan's army in the peninsula, which virtually no one knows about. It's best-known moment is Little Bighorn. Something has to be famous to be great? Then what about General Zod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Something has to be famous to be great? Then what about General Zod? #makezodgreatagain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 William the Conqueror was also known as William the Bastard, which is much less flattering. Plus...have you ever read about the battle of Hastings? The Normans won practically by accident, when Harold Godwinson died and the Saxons fell apart. Shaka, I have high regards for, but can't consider him one of the greatest generals. I'm always amused at how he established the Zulu military legend: before him, Zulu warfare was highly ritualized. Impi would line up across from each other and sing, a couple of big swinging dicks would challenge each other in single combat between the lines, and at the end of the day they'd decide who won and everyone would go home. Then one day, Shaka says to himself "I have ten thousand guys with spears, why the !@#$ are we singing?..." No comment on Martel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 No comment on Martel? He may one of the most important figures in world history if Lynn White's book Medieval Technology and Social Change is to be believed. White argued that Martel in facing the rise on Islam decided that the mounted horse using stirrups and horseshoes was the weapon of choice and remade European society into the feudal system to support horses and mounted knights. White looked at Europe around the time of the battle of Tours 732 and found many churches had their lands taken away to make horse breeding land. Some historians have challanged this thesis but its still provocative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 He may one of the most important figures in world history if Lynn White's book Medieval Technology and Social Change is to be believed. White argued that Martel in facing the rise on Islam decided that the mounted horse using stirrups and horseshoes was the weapon of choice and remade European society into the feudal system to support horses and mounted knights. White looked at Europe around the time of the battle of Tours 732 and found many churches had their lands taken away to make horse breeding land. Some historians have challanged this thesis but its still provocative Cut and paste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Something has to be famous to be great? Then what about General Zod? The reason nobody seems to know about him or his greatness is because they've taken Zod out of the classroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Cut and paste. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 The reason nobody seems to know about him or his greatness is because they've taken Zod out of the classroom. [/sad trombone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 The reason nobody seems to know about him or his greatness is because they've taken Zod out of the classroom. #MakeKryptonGreatAgain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 The 1997 Washington Generals beat the Globetrotters relatively often.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 No comment on Martel? Overrated. I mean, he wasn't bad by any stretch, he won Tours before the battle even started based on a masterful understanding of his army, the Ummayad army, and an excellent use of terrain and great preparation. But a great portion of his reputation as "the Hammer" was Christian propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 Founding American artillery is significant. American cavalry...its best moment is Stuart riding around McClellan's army in the peninsula, which virtually no one knows about. It's best-known moment is Little Bighorn. That's not exactly a service arm you want to brag about establishing. I'm not saying he was a cretin, but let's not over-exaggerate. He certainly wasn't a Stuart, Seydlitz, Sobieski, or Subotai. Or even a Ney, Murat, or Hephastion. Sun Tzu...there's interestingly very little evidence outside of The Art of War that he even existed, and almost nothing about any battles he led. And while he wrote perhaps the single most important work of military theory in history...a great military theorist is not necessarily a great general. No one lists Jomini or Clausewitz among great generals, or Alfred Thayer Mahan among great admirals. I fully agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 The reason nobody seems to know about him or his greatness is because they've taken Zod out of the classroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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