BillsFan17 Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 Don't know anything other than what I've read about this guy so I'll turn this over to someone with firsthand knowledge: Chad Hansen (Cal.)--seems like he's got a back story--transfer to Cal from Idaho State. According to PFF he's a work in progress, who they have as the 97th overall player, so he might be around in the 3rd--he is a physical deep threat who can go up and get the ball (had a bunch of deep ball receptions--Tyrod can throw a deep ball!). They compare him to Demaryius Thomas (pretty bold) and he could be the "high pointing" WR that Buddy Nix could never find us . Here's PFF's take: https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-pff-scouting-report-chad-hansen-wr-california/ NFL.com has him rated there with Godwin, Kupp, Zay Jones--2nd or 3rd round: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/chad-hansen?id=2558069 Awesome post! Glad someone is shedding some light on this kid. Love his style, plays a little stiff at times and isn't the greatest route runner yet, but man he has a full tool box. Def couold see him sneaking into the bottom of the second or early third.
billspro Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 Don't know anything other than what I've read about this guy so I'll turn this over to someone with firsthand knowledge: Chad Hansen (Cal.)--seems like he's got a back story--transfer to Cal from Idaho State. According to PFF he's a work in progress, who they have as the 97th overall player, so he might be around in the 3rd--he is a physical deep threat who can go up and get the ball (had a bunch of deep ball receptions--Tyrod can throw a deep ball!). They compare him to Demaryius Thomas (pretty bold) and he could be the "high pointing" WR that Buddy Nix could never find us . Here's PFF's take: https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-pff-scouting-report-chad-hansen-wr-california/ NFL.com has him rated there with Godwin, Kupp, Zay Jones--2nd or 3rd round: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/chad-hansen?id=2558069 Chad Hansen is going to be a great NFL player. I think he has second round talent but seem to be under the radar for whatever reason. He would win the WR2 job in training camp and hold that position for many years.
billspro Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) Kupp’s appeal and strength was never as a burner. He is a precise route runner, with decent size, football smarts and great hands. He won’t outrun them in space, he uses movement and misdirection, coordination and speed/direction changes to get separation, not blinding speed. A middle of the field, slot guy who will fight for yards after the catch in traffic. A perfect complement to Watkins. But don’t expect him to be there beyond the mid 2nd round. Not sure he would be a #2, but would be a perfect #3 WR. “Crafty route runner, setting up defenders and using hesitation to create spacing. Clearly leans on his technique and trusts it. Sticky hands with the natural coordination to pluck the ball. Excellent awareness at the catch point and doesn't need to gear down to assess his surroundings after the catch. At his best on in-cutting and post routes to manipulate space in the middle of the field. Not shy about using his abusive stiff arm to pick up extra yards, refusing to concede as a ballcarrier….. Marginal long-speed and lacks explosive twitch in his patterns. Relies more on timing/nuance than burst to create separation mid-route.” http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2006951/cooper-kupp I agree with everything you said. I think Kupp would be a great number 3, I would be very happy with him in the third round. There is no way I am drafting him in the second though, he is not athletic enough to be a number 2 in the NFL. I think he's a top 6-8 WR in the class Don't see him lasting til the third Josh Reynolds is another guy that is flying under the radar. Edited March 20, 2017 by billspro
simpleman Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 This makes him sound like Robert Woods. Is that a fair comparison, or am I off? I agree, he is more of a Robert Woods. Although I'm not sure he would be quite as good as Woods was. But then again, I have not seen him play enough to know. I really like his ability & potential, but I'm not sure I would use OUR 2nd on him. If we were to trade down in the 1st, grabbed a QB in the late first, and picked up an extra late 2nd, I would take him. I would definitely take him in the third if we had not already taken Williams, Davis in the 1st.
Chuck Wagon Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) I'm intrigued by Robert Davis (6'3", ran a 4.44 with a 41 inch vert at the combine), he's a cousin of the Panthers Thomas Davis and went for 8-93-1 vs Wisconsin (Corey Davis had 6-73-1 against them). I thought Josh Malone had stretches where he look pretty interesting at Tennessee, he played against "NFL" DBs in the SEC and is also 6'3" and had the 3rd fastest 40 time (4.40). Edited March 20, 2017 by Chuck Wagon
YoloinOhio Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) I think there's a chance Smith-Schuster falls to our 3rd pick. And didn't Kupp run like a 4.6? Smells like 3rd round to me. yes and I think he's already 24 Chad Hansen is going to be a great NFL player. I think he has second round talent but seem to be under the radar for whatever reason. He would win the WR2 job in training camp and hold that position for many years. one of my favorite players in the draft Edited March 20, 2017 by YoloinOhio
EersN'Bills Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 I like Godwin from Penn State. If Kupp falls to the third, I'd be happy with that.
KellyToughII Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 You may find a guy (maybe Godwin) but you can't bank on it. The Bills WILL select a receiver before the end of round 2. Yeah agreed. At this point I say its WR in the first and DB in the 2nd and 3rd. The draft is DEEP in DB talent.
xRUSHx Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 Chad Hansen is going to be a great NFL player. I think he has second round talent but seem to be under the radar for whatever reason. He would win the WR2 job in training camp and hold that position for many years. I agree and think we can get him in RD2
Blokestradamus Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 Josh Reynolds. Great size. Think he'll be a steal in the later rounds. This is the correct answer. Josh Doctson lite.
BillsFan17 Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 What worries me about Reynolds is his frame. Seems as if he might not be able to carry too much more on it and I don't see him having the strength as this level. Almost like a Justin Hunter type now that I think about it. A very good redzone target but might not be too muxh of an asset otherwise
blacklabel Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 Surprised no one has mentioned Zay Jones. There's a chance he could be there in round three. His college HC is now Bills WRs coach so there'd be some familiarity there. He's 6'2", 205, ran a 4.46, all-time leader in catches in the FBS. Wins at high pointing the ball, solid route runner, high football IQ and character. On the downside, his production was a result of being a focal point in the offense. His game-speed is said to be average and that he'd have to work to improve his speed and separation in routes. Seems to be a type of player McDermott would covet though, along with his character and IQ he has a tremendous work ethic.
thebandit27 Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 Surprised no one has mentioned Zay Jones. There's a chance he could be there in round three. His college HC is now Bills WRs coach so there'd be some familiarity there. He's 6'2", 205, ran a 4.46, all-time leader in catches in the FBS. Wins at high pointing the ball, solid route runner, high football IQ and character. On the downside, his production was a result of being a focal point in the offense. His game-speed is said to be average and that he'd have to work to improve his speed and separation in routes. Seems to be a type of player McDermott would covet though, along with his character and IQ he has a tremendous work ethic. Thread title stated "after round 2"...Jones is a near lock to be a top-60 pick IMO
BillsFan17 Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 Thread title stated "after round 2"...Jones is a near lock to be a top-60 pick IMO Exactly. I fore one think after Davis, Williams and Ross, Jones might be the next/best WR off the board. I love Smith-Schuster, but the extent of his health pushes him down a bit. I don't really like Samuel from OSU, and I don't think Kupp is going to go high.
hondo in seattle Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) Before the end of round 2, I want a WR, CB, LB, and RT. Maybe a safety and QB as well. Is that possible? Edited March 20, 2017 by hondo in seattle
RyanC883 Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) Goodwin, or Smith-Schuster (USC) Edited March 20, 2017 by RyanC883
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 Before the end of round 2, I want a WR, CB, LB, and RT. Maybe a safety and QB as well. Is that possible? you have to say "find me X"
RyanC883 Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 Surprised no one has mentioned Zay Jones. There's a chance he could be there in round three. His college HC is now Bills WRs coach so there'd be some familiarity there. He's 6'2", 205, ran a 4.46, all-time leader in catches in the FBS. Wins at high pointing the ball, solid route runner, high football IQ and character. On the downside, his production was a result of being a focal point in the offense. His game-speed is said to be average and that he'd have to work to improve his speed and separation in routes. Seems to be a type of player McDermott would covet though, along with his character and IQ he has a tremendous work ethic. would love it if Zay is there in Rd. 3.
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