John from Riverside Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Hah. TJ Graham's senior year: 46 rec for 757 yards, 7 TD's Listenbee's best year: 41 rec for 753, 5 TD's Not to mention TJ had another 1000 yards returning. Yes that is why TJ was a first round pick and Listenbee.....not #s don't tell anything TJ was a body catcher who struggled to track the deep ball Listenbee is the exact opposite Nice try I hope this doesnt turn this thread a bad direction but the college qb throwing to each makes a difference as well..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Yes that is why TJ was a first round pick and Listenbee.....not I hope this doesnt turn this thread a bad direction but the college qb throwing to each makes a difference as well..... TJ was not a first round pick. #s don't tell anything TJ was a body catcher who struggled to track the deep ball Listenbee is the exact opposite Nice try Right, Kolby was a secret star with amazing ball skills that every team passed on 6+ times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I hope this doesnt turn this thread a bad direction but the college qb throwing to each makes a difference as well..... Listenbee actually had a better deep ball thrower in Trevone Boykin. I still like the Listenbee pick. He was a shot to nothing in the 6th and he ran sub 4.4 while still recovering from double hernia surgery. He could be that volatile element vertically. Tyreek Hill did wonders for the WCO in KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Walt powell still on the squad ? If so one vote for Walt. I was thinking the same thing. I think Walt makes strides in year 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 TJ was not a first round pick. Right, Kolby was a secret star with amazing ball skills that every team passed on 6+ times. I'm not disagreeing with you....But a similar scenario produced....Tom Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 TJ was not a first round pick. Right, Kolby was a secret star with amazing ball skills that every team passed on 6+ times. My bad....3rd round. Listenbee actually had a better deep ball thrower in Trevone Boykin. I still like the Listenbee pick. He was a shot to nothing in the 6th and he ran sub 4.4 while still recovering from double hernia surgery. He could be that volatile element vertically. Tyreek Hill did wonders for the WCO in KC. I was mostly going by the video I have seen of him trackling the ball in the air.....a lot of balls were he was waiting for it instead of running underneath it....or the ball rainbowing to him where he had to work harder to track it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Sure would be a nice bonus if Listenbee panned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 ....gonna wing it with Logan Thomas at TE...size, speed and QB athleticism......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 He is recovering from hip surgery in December Had a plate put in to fix old injury Should be good for TC Since Logan Thomas came up... Let me add As a freshman at VT playing TE He caught a touchdown pass thrown from yours truly.. Tyrod Taylor ....didn't he originally have sports hernia surgery, landed on PUP, destined to be back sometime around week 7?........hope all of this is behind him...kid has some 4.39 wheels......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 They're all sleepers besides Sammy, I just hope someone wakes up this year.LOL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) I like Logan alot and have seen several times his athleticism. He can learn to be a TE but it will take a little time. I either want Corey Davis at 10 or try to trade down a couple spots and get OJ. Those should be the only 2 scenarios for the 1st pick. There are tons of quality dbs in this draft. Edited March 18, 2017 by LABILLBACKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 This is my thought as well. I was impressed with Listenbee's ability to make tough catches. He's not a track star playing football. He's a receiver who happens to be very fast. I'm expecting Listenbee to surprise a lot of people next season. I really hope so. For as fast as he is he's proven good at tracking the ball and has decent hands. Hopefully he stays healthy, we don't need another fragile speedster. I like Logan Thomas too but I'm tempering my expectations. Changing positions isn't easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I'm not disagreeing with you....But a similar scenario produced....Tom Brady. I think I may have heard this story about every Bills pick in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I'm not disagreeing with you....But a similar scenario produced....Tom Brady. Totally different. The things that separate the good QBs from the scrap heap are the hardest to measure. Not true of WRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 You are probably the same guy from BBMB that talked about "sleepers" at WR for the Bills last season. I assure you our WR core is one of the worst in the league and there are no sleepers on this roster, just like I said last season when you and others said we didnt need a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Totally different. The things that separate the good QBs from the scrap heap are the hardest to measure. Not true of WRs The basis used was predicated on 6+ rounds of teams missing. Not different. Also, there are plenty of examples IRT late round or UDFA WR that were really productive in the NFL (Rod Smith, Wes Welker, Donald Driver, Andre Reed in the fourth round, etc.). I think I may have heard this story about every Bills pick in history. And from the other 31 teams in the NFL. Everyone knows how difficult the draft can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 The basis used was predicated on 6+ rounds of teams missing. Not different. Also, there are plenty of examples IRT late round or UDFA WR that were really productive in the NFL (Rod Smith, Wes Welker, Donald Driver, Andre Reed in the fourth round, etc.). And from the other 31 teams in the NFL. Everyone knows how difficult the draft can be. And for every productive player, there was 500 nobodies. Citing Tom Brady is like citing the guy who won the lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 And for every productive player, there was 500 nobodies. Citing Tom Brady is like citing the guy who won the lottery. Gotta agree with fc here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 And for every productive player, there was 500 nobodies. Citing Tom Brady is like citing the guy who won the lottery. Eh, I could name others (Terrell Davis, Marques Coleston, etc.), but probably better to pick the best late round draft pick of all time. The point is....Although unlikely...It happens. And will continue to happen, regardless of the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I agree Listerbee can be that guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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