YoloinOhio Posted March 18, 2017 Author Posted March 18, 2017 if he can't even beat out Listenbee, he can move onListenbee was a better prospect than Dez Lewis imo.
BuffAlone Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 ...had to sweeten the pot, but well worth it IMO.......... Bills signed WR Andre Holmes a three-year, $6.5 million contract. It's $2 million higher than the deal reported earlier this week. Holmes is coming off consecutive nondescript seasons as Oakland's No. 4 receiver behind Amari Cooper, Michael Crabtree, and Seth Roberts. He lands in a good spot with Buffalo as a veteran flyer. Holmes adds depth in a red-zone/deep threat role. Mar 18 - 2:14 PM I wonder about that! If a "leak" cost us,or ANY team for that matter,than there should be consequences for the party that leaked info. Very poorly done,and costly
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 Now the question is if that leak forced our hand and the additional dough. If that's the case it's BS. ....I think he was still shopping.....played last year in Oakland for $750K guaranteed, but earned the full $2 mil of his deal.......so it appears that Bflo's original 3 yr, $4.5 mil deal (no mention of guaranteed money) was light....so he ends up a shade over $2 mil/yr which is close to what he did earn last year....still a good signing IMO..........
Success Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 Yes. Just need one quality #2 caliber guy opposite Sammy and we're good to go. Right now, it's Sammy and a bunch of JAGs. I'd put Holmes a notch above jag, but agree - I'll be surprised if they don't snag a WR in the 1st 2 rounds. I think they try to trade down to get an extra pick, too.
BuffAlone Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 Listenbee was a better prospect than Dez Lewis imo.perhaps. But with game action,and a couple of years in meetings, he SHOULD be able to outperform a (basically) rook? Just a thought...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 perhaps. But with game action,and a couple of years in meetings, he SHOULD be able to outperform a (basically) rook? Just a thought... ...hopefully a healthy Listenbee and Dez do show up in 2017......maybe not the marquee names you want, but Colston in the 7th to NO didn't fare too bad....you just never know..........
John from Riverside Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 Awesome! I hope the signing of 4 veteran receivers doesn't mean the Bills don't plan to address the position in the draft. Still need a rookie who can realistically fight for the #2 spot. Despite my preferences, though, the Bills now have: Watkins Listenbee Holmes Brown Washington Butler Powell I dont think it does......but maybe we go TE high instead of WR in this offense? I think Homes is a little better then a JAG....and young. Not ready to call him a 1a but he looks like a really good fit for TT as he has that size and large catch radius Need one more quality pass catcher either through free agency and draft and this is a strong TE draft
Strethor Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) Holmes fills the void of Woods, Easely, and Hunter in one signing. Now throw a OJ Howard or Corey Davis in the mix and we are in buisness! Edited March 18, 2017 by Strethor
Logic Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 I dont think it does......but maybe we go TE high instead of WR in this offense? I think Homes is a little better then a JAG....and young. Not ready to call him a 1a but he looks like a really good fit for TT as he has that size and large catch radius Need one more quality pass catcher either through free agency and draft and this is a strong TE draft While I can see why some are saying that Holmes is a shade above a JAG, the fact remains that he was a WR4 and he's 28 years old. It's hard for me to buy into the idea that he's suddenly gonna jump from a WR4 to a WR2. It certainly could happen, and I hope it does. I'm just not holding my breath. As it stands now, a Watkins/Holmes/Brown/Listenbee top 4 isn't awful, but it certainly isn't nearly as dangerous as the addition of a 1st or 2nd round WR would make it.
BuffAlone Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 ...hopefully a healthy Listenbee and Dez do show up in 2017......maybe not the marquee names you want, but Colston in the 7th to NO didn't fare too bad....you just never know..........it's been a good job thus far in FA. I am content with every signing (although Tolbert is just a McD guy/locker room guy imo) but hope the draft yields us a starting Lb,Cb,and safety. And as much as I think we should wait,we will HAVE to draft a qb...just for numbers. Hopefully,we build other areas this year and grab our Franchise next year. TT will be the starter for the next two,regardless of who,what,when we draft a QB.
John from Riverside Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 While I can see why some are saying that Holmes is a shade above a JAG, the fact remains that he was a WR4 and he's 28 years old. It's hard for me to buy into the idea that he's suddenly gonna jump from a WR4 to a WR2. It certainly could happen, and I hope it does. I'm just not holding my breath. As it stands now, a Watkins/Holmes/Brown/Listenbee top 4 isn't awful, but it certainly isn't nearly as dangerous as the addition of a 1st or 2nd round WR would make it. I think this is a situation where the raiders love to stack wr's and the players in front of him were just better.......I mean....is he gonna play in front of Crabtree? You could be right.....its just I have watched him quite a bit....he is a gamer
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) I think this makes the draft strategy have more options now. We could instead of going WR at 10, go Safety, LB,CB or OJ Howard at 10. And then still take a receiver like Zay Jones in Round 2. Or, trade down from 10 and add picks. Edited March 18, 2017 by horned dogs
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 While I can see why some are saying that Holmes is a shade above a JAG, the fact remains that he was a WR4 and he's 28 years old. It's hard for me to buy into the idea that he's suddenly gonna jump from a WR4 to a WR2. It certainly could happen, and I hope it does. I'm just not holding my breath. As it stands now, a Watkins/Holmes/Brown/Listenbee top 4 isn't awful, but it certainly isn't nearly as dangerous as the addition of a 1st or 2nd round WR would make it. ...not convinced the ineffective and inconsistent nature of the passing game right now warrants a 1st round pick for a receiver, be it WR or TE.....seems like the majority of FA signings have been on the offensive side of the ball.....draft may shape up to trade down, acquire picks and go DB/QB.....just a thought.................
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 ....I think he was still shopping.....played last year in Oakland for $750K guaranteed, but earned the full $2 mil of his deal.......so it appears that Bflo's original 3 yr, $4.5 mil deal (no mention of guaranteed money) was light....so he ends up a shade over $2 mil/yr which is close to what he did earn last year....still a good signing IMO..........In comparisons to what Robert Wood got.. its a steal.
Chilly Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 I'm not sure how people can look at our WRs and not think it's one of the highest areas of need even after these signings.
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 I'm not sure how people can look at our WRs and not think it's one of the highest areas of need even after these signings.I'm playing devils advocate here but I'm guessing it's because we run the ball so much and well. Makes the priority for a top tier FA WR or even a high draft pick pretty low.
Chilly Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 I'm playing devils advocate here but I'm guessing it's because we run the ball so much and well. Makes the priority for a top tier FA WR or even a high draft pick pretty low. Check out Tyrod's stats with and without Sammy. This includes Robert who was a better #2 than anything we have now (and I don't love Bob Woods to begin with).
YoloinOhio Posted March 18, 2017 Author Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) Shady must've been getting nervous @cutondime25 Andre Holmes I'm excited to see this ... let's go Edited March 18, 2017 by YoloinOhio
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