Pirate Angel Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 Maybin couldn't even be used on special teams. Mike Williams could play in the NFL...Just not at the caliber a 4th round pick should be. Losman made some plays, CJ has some dynamic moments...Maybin was absolutely worthless.
Bill from NYC Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 Admittedly I have not seen a lot of success for the Bills. Can't shake my fanhood though. Young or not.You are not THAT far off. Spiller was a truly idiotic selection. But you see the Levy/Jauron - Donahoe days were just so bad that there were actually picks that were worse.
John from Riverside Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 It has to be Maybin followed up by OT Williams and then DE Flowers
K-9 Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 I'm sorry..i couldn't make it past this....Rueben? Do you mean Rueben Brown? The guy was like a 8 time probowler ...if anything, he is one of the most underrated bills of all time No, I mean Reuben Gant. Rhymes with can't. And that's not just a coincidence, either. Let's not confuse our Reubens.
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted March 18, 2017 Author Posted March 18, 2017 You are not THAT far off. Spiller was a truly idiotic selection. But you see the Levy/Jauron - Donahoe days were just so bad that there were actually picks that were worse. Yeah, I'm starting to see that. Knowledgeable posters, I'm grateful for the education. No matter how bad it hurts.
BillsfaninChicago Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 I have to go with the JP Losman trade not only for what we gave up but what we fould have had. We gave up a 2005 1st, 2004 2nd and a 2004 5th. We also would been able to take Aaron Rodgers with our 1st in 05 if we had just been patient. That one move created a chain of events that put us in the drought we are in today.
Uncle Joe Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 No, I mean Reuben Gant. Rhymes with can't. And that's not just a coincidence, either. Let's not confuse our Reubens. Especially with so much left over corned beef today
Wagon Circler Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 I'm gonna go with Perry Tuttle. Anybody who was ever deemed worthy of starting a game, get behind Perry.
KollegeStudnet Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 Tom Cousineau Mike Williams Erik Flowers Phil Dokes Aaron Maybin Booker Moore Tony Hunter Tom Rudd John McCargo Walt Patluski EJ Manuel JP Losman CJ Spiller
thebandit27 Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 Tom Cousineau Mike Williams Erik Flowers Phil Dokes Aaron Maybin Booker Moore Tony Hunter Tom Rudd John McCargo Walt Patluski EJ Manuel JP Losman CJ Spiller Do folks really not remember that CJ Spiller had a 1,200-yard season where he averaged 6.0 YPC, and added 43 receptions for 459 yards, and scored 8 TDs? To include him with the likes of Aaron Maybin and Tom Cousineau is sheer lunacy.
KollegeStudnet Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) Do folks really not remember that CJ Spiller had a 1,200-yard season where he averaged 6.0 YPC, and added 43 receptions for 459 yards, and scored 8 TDs? To include him with the likes of Aaron Maybin and Tom Cousineau is sheer lunacy. I do and that was a great season. But, after teams figured out how to contain him that was it. Painful to watch. It's not sheer lunacy to say the guy is a bust. The topic is first rounders that are worst/busts. CJ had one good season. Is he in the top 20 for busts in the first round? Yes. Also, love your posts bandit. Edited March 18, 2017 by KollegeStudnet
Figster Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 Do folks really not remember that CJ Spiller had a 1,200-yard season where he averaged 6.0 YPC, and added 43 receptions for 459 yards, and scored 8 TDs? To include him with the likes of Aaron Maybin and Tom Cousineau is sheer lunacy. I agree, CJ may not have lived up to expectations , but was a long ways from being a bust in my humble opinion bandit
thebandit27 Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 I do and that was a great season. But, after teams figured out how to contain him that was it. Painful to watch. It's not sheer lunacy to say the guy is a bust. The topic is first rounders that are busts. CJ had one good season. Is he in the top 20 for busts in the first round? Yes. No, the topic is the worst 1st round picks that the team has ever made. The Bills have been a franchise for nearly 60 years, so you're ostensibly classifying everyone that's in the bottom 1/3 as the "worst", and I don't exactly think that that's the crux of the discussion. Moreover, does a guy with one very good season belong in the bottom 20?
BADOLBILZ Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 Do folks really not remember that CJ Spiller had a 1,200-yard season where he averaged 6.0 YPC, and added 43 receptions for 459 yards, and scored 8 TDs? To include him with the likes of Aaron Maybin and Tom Cousineau is sheer lunacy. I think you can consider him in there because of the "caused loss". He not only disappointed but his selection CAUSED the trade of Marshawn Lynch. Drafting running backs in round 1 is for the birds to start with..........but Lynch was the closest thing to a HOF'er they've drafted in round 1 since Bruce Smith. Trading Cousineau was a boon for the Bills so that pick shouldn't really be looked at so badly now.
Greybeard Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) ...tough call but Patulski as 1st overall deserves some "merit"............. Patulski was a beast in college. I would bet half the teams in the league, if they had the first pick in the draft would have picked him. It wasn't the most productive draft overall. Look at the list of Heisman candidate and how many had good careers. We should have picked one of these guys for QB at the time. 1st—Pat Sullivan, Auburn, Sr., QB, 1,597 Points 2nd—Ed Marinaro, Cornell, Sr., RB, 1,445 Points 3rd—Greg Pruitt, Oklahoma, Jr., RB, 586 Points 4th—Johnny Musso, Alabama, Sr., RB, 365 Points 5th—Lydell Mitchell, Penn State, Sr., RB, 251 Points 6th—Jack Mildren, Oklahoma, Sr., QB, 208 Points 7th—Jerry Tagge, Nebraska, Sr., QB, 168 Points 8th—Chuck Ealey, Toledo, Sr., QB, 137 Points 9th—Walt Patulski, Notre Dame, Sr., DE, 121 Points 10th—Eric Allen, Michigan State, Sr., RB, 109 Points Edited March 18, 2017 by Greybeard
dgrochester55 Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) So many choices. Losman was bad and a reach but at least sought after at the time, Manuel was bad but at least we traded down and got Alonso who turned into McCoy before picking him. Ive heard things about Tuttle, Patuski and Moore but that was before my time. Flowers was a bust and Mike Williams was a waste of a top 5 pick. McCargo, Troup and Hardy are honorable mentions but..... My choice, Aaron Maybin. Worst and most frustrating in my memory. As bad as the others that I listed were, Maybin may have done even less than any of them. Had he been picked in the 6th or 7th round, you could have argued that he was still a bust. Even more frustrating was the fact that there was a clear chance to pick much better players projected higher when it came time for the Bills to pick. Edited March 18, 2017 by dgrochester55
KollegeStudnet Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) No, the topic is the worst 1st round picks that the team has ever made. The Bills have been a franchise for nearly 60 years, so you're ostensibly classifying everyone that's in the bottom 1/3 as the "worst", and I don't exactly think that that's the crux of the discussion. Moreover, does a guy with one very good season belong in the bottom 20? I'll look into it more later and break down the 60. CJ being in the bottom 20, I would consider--in my lifetime. Being a young guy and witnessing his pro career, it's a hard pill to swallow to see a top 10 pick, have one good season and then bounce around the league not panning out. Edited March 18, 2017 by KollegeStudnet
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