John from Riverside Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 As I said, post good stuff. Don't let people intimidate you. Be open minded and realize we're all Bills fans who want to win. Did you just say "be open minded" the hypocrisy of this post to likeive....dont be a coward....i was John from Hemet on the old board im John from Hemet here.....who were YOU there?
likei've Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Did you just say "be open minded" the hypocrisy of this post to likeive....dont be a coward....i was John from Hemet on the old board im John from Hemet here.....who were YOU there? Oh I know exactly who you were Mr. Semantics because you couldn't articulate a thoughtful post. My name was Likei'vebeentherebefore. Same avatar. Thought that seemed pretty obvious and opposite of cowardly. Edited March 16, 2017 by likei've
John from Riverside Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 Oh I know exactly who you were Mr. Semantics because you couldn't articulate a thoughtful post. My name was Likei'vebeentherebefore. Same avatar. Thought that seemed pretty obvious and opposite of cowardly. You must have me mixed up with someone else..... you however.....I dont even recognize you from the board....probably trolling there as well
likei've Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) You must have me mixed up with someone else..... you however.....I dont even recognize you from the board....probably trolling there as well Stopped posting when it became unfun. Probably right around the time you and your like started posting. The main board was unreadable. Edited March 16, 2017 by likei've
John from Riverside Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Stopped posting when it became unfun. Probably right around the time you and your like started posting. You have made 3 posts here that i have actually read and you have posted NOTHING of substance. Do you have anything but insults? Try harder or be gone Edited March 16, 2017 by John from Hemet
MiltonWaddams Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 Looks like a solid digression here on this topic......
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) There goes another comp pick you don't worry about comp picks when trying to improve the team, what are we supposed to do, just rely on the draft for our numerous holes ?? The comp picks are only important if you're tanking, which we are not doing. Edited March 16, 2017 by Buffalo Barbarian
wppete Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 Is this Rodak BS again? How does this fool still have a job?
Billsman623 Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 Comp picks = loser mentality. Make the best moves to improve the roster, period.
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 I don't know whats more shocking, to learn we signed a WR then to find out it didn't go through or to find out WR Andre Holmes has more than 1 suitor other than Buffalo.
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 There seems to be a common perception here that a player's agent can't disclose the terms of an offer from the Bills to other teams. Apart from everyone's off-the-cuff based-on-no-facts opinion, does anyone have a link to some sort of code of conduct that governs what NFLPA agents can disclose about the contents of a team's offer to a free agent player they represent? In most fields of endeavor, if someone is your "agent," that agent has an obligation to get the best possible result for you, the principal party that he represents. That means it would be misconduct for the agent to FAIL to disclose the terms of Team A's offer if doing so would help the player get a better offer from Team "B." Playing one party's bid off against another to get a better deal for their principal is probably the main thing agents get paid for in most business contexts. Be it real estate sales, talent contracts for movies, whatever. It's certainly possible that there could be some negotiated aspect of the NFL labor agreement that puts unusual rules in place that are specific to NFLPA-registered agents, but I would find that surprising. In part because if rules restricting disclosure do exist, they would be pretty tough to enforce. So again, anybody got a link? Or are y'all just clueless about how business works?
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 I don't know whats more shocking, to learn we signed a WR then to find out it didn't go through or to find out WR Andre Holmes has more than 1 suitor other than Buffalo. Well, his 14 receptions in 2016 has certainly sparked some intense debate on this forum. Honestly I was surprised as well. I think that teams like guys who have shown they can compete at the highest level. He may not have gaudy stats, but often times these guys are safer bets than mid to late round draft picks. Receiver is a difficult position to transition from college to the pros. Even marginal veteran receiver talent are often more productive than younger guys at the position. With that said, I don't think I'd want him any higher on the depth chart than a third WR.
wilcoam Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Sorry, the number comp picks awarded are solely based on the number of FA's signed versus lost up to a max of 32 per year Those who claim differently unfort do no understand the system In 2015 our Bills lost 3 FA's and signed 1 The other FA's signed didn't count against the comps because they were ineligible Based on having been released (Harvin) Or signed after the draft Or in Felton's case was based on opting out of a contract In 2017 we will only receive comp picks if we sign less eligible FA's than we loose With Hunter going to Pitt we are currently -1 And if our other FA's don;t sign until after the draft/Jun 1 they become ineligible Again the NFL compensates NFL teams who lose more FA's than they sign However if the Bills fan base feels signing marginal FA's today Is of greater important than getting compensated with high draft picks by the NFL tomorrow so be it I think most other NFL GM's, quite successful one's, will always take the 3rd round and 4th round picks But hey, whadda they know? Our fan base seems convinced comp picks rarely work out??????? Yet at the same time talk about how Kevin Seymour will surely make a big impact in 2017 lol jc Edited March 16, 2017 by wilcoam
Chandler#81 Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 You have made 3 posts here that i have actually read and you have posted NOTHING of substance. Do you have anything but insults? Try harder or be gone Decorum, gentlemen..
The Poojer Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 I was going to post a similar thought, but you put it much more eloquently than I would have. Wow, what time period do you live in? Dropping the R-Word like that to throw shade at another poster for some petty disagreement you're having over the Internet on a Buffalo Bills MessageBoard. Get ahold of yourself, please. You degrade the human race when you so casually toss around hate speech. I'll leave you with this.. I'd be willing to bet a good portion of this board has a family member or friend who faces the world each day with bigger barriers to overcome than you can imagine. Take a class in sensitivity... Oh and this is not *Sarcasm* but I'm sure it could be taken that way and this is why that method of humor, which is dependent on tone or interactive mediums that would show a persons expression, rarely hits home here. But you'll keep trying won't ya?
8-8 Forever? Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 I like this signing. He was buried in Oakland, should be a great red zone target. not encouraging when a guy is denying he signed... I can hear his voice on the phone to his agent: " you signed me f ing WHERE?!%$!"
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) There seems to be a common perception here that a player's agent can't disclose the terms of an offer from the Bills to other teams. Apart from everyone's off-the-cuff based-on-no-facts opinion, does anyone have a link to some sort of code of conduct that governs what NFLPA agents can disclose about the contents of a team's offer to a free agent player they represent? In most fields of endeavor, if someone is your "agent," that agent has an obligation to get the best possible result for you, the principal party that he represents. That means it would be misconduct for the agent to FAIL to disclose the terms of Team A's offer if doing so would help the player get a better offer from Team "B." Playing one party's bid off against another to get a better deal for their principal is probably the main thing agents get paid for in most business contexts. Be it real estate sales, talent contracts for movies, whatever. It's certainly possible that there could be some negotiated aspect of the NFL labor agreement that puts unusual rules in place that are specific to NFLPA-registered agents, but I would find that surprising. In part because if rules restricting disclosure do exist, they would be pretty tough to enforce. So again, anybody got a link? Or are y'all just clueless about how business works? Bills, WR Andre Holmes say no deal yet despite NFLPA records 8:20 PM ET Mike RodakESPN Staff Writer A three-year, $4.5 million contract between wide receiver Andre Holmes and the Buffalo Bills was filed Wednesday with the NFL Players Association, documents obtained by ESPN showed. Despite the deal appearing along with other completed contracts in NFLPA records, a Bills spokesperson said Wednesday there has been no deal signed between the two sides. Holmes also tweeted Wednesday afternoon that he had not signed with any team. An NFLPA spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment from ESPN. Edited March 16, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) There seems to be a common perception here that a player's agent can't disclose the terms of an offer from the Bills to other teams. Apart from everyone's off-the-cuff based-on-no-facts opinion, does anyone have a link to some sort of code of conduct that governs what NFLPA agents can disclose about the contents of a team's offer to a free agent player they represent? In most fields of endeavor, if someone is your "agent," that agent has an obligation to get the best possible result for you, the principal party that he represents. That means it would be misconduct for the agent to FAIL to disclose the terms of Team A's offer if doing so would help the player get a better offer from Team "B." Playing one party's bid off against another to get a better deal for their principal is probably the main thing agents get paid for in most business contexts. Be it real estate sales, talent contracts for movies, whatever. It's certainly possible that there could be some negotiated aspect of the NFL labor agreement that puts unusual rules in place that are specific to NFLPA-registered agents, but I would find that surprising. In part because if rules restricting disclosure do exist, they would be pretty tough to enforce. So again, anybody got a link? Or are y'all just clueless about how business works? @draftdiamonds@SalSports the funny thing is today the NFLPA sent out information to agents telling them if they give out info they can be suspended @salsports Yep. This happened today. I can confirm. Edited March 16, 2017 by YoloinOhio
papazoid Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 here's my question ; does the signing of all thee wrs decrease the chances of us drafting WR at #10? yes !! bills setting themselves up to go QB in 1st round
H2o Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 Back onto topic. I really could give a sh*t about a comp pick. I tried to get that point across in a different thread about said types of picks, explaining how we had too many open roster spots to not sign people. I personally hope we do sign Holmes. He's a big body WR who, when given the chance, had pretty solid production. I hope we sign Claiborne as well. I hope we sign every player we can that makes the team better. If it's Whaley's way of pissing in the Corn Flakes of the Buffalo masses, ruining the hopes of all those looking to put their faith in the NFL to hand us a couple extra picks, then tell them all to grab a spoon and shovel away. you don't worry about comp picks when trying to improve the team, what are we supposed to do, just rely on the draft for our numerous holes ?? The comp picks are only important if you're tanking, which we are not doing. Read through the whole thing my friend. Also, just so everyone is aware, I apologized for saying what I said. My statement was out of line and in bad taste. I let frustration get the best of me in that moment. Have a good Thursday everyone.
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