ALF Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 North Korea's new Hwasong-15 missile: What the photos show North Korea has test-fired a brand new intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), which experts said shows a major advance in technology and threat. "This isn't just a big missile for North Korea this is a big missile in general," Michael Duitsman, also research associate at CNS, told CNN. "There are not a lot of countries who could build a missile this big and have it work." http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/29/asia/north-korea-hwasong-15-missile/index.html
DC Tom Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 2 hours ago, ALF said: North Korea's new Hwasong-15 missile: What the photos show North Korea has test-fired a brand new intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), which experts said shows a major advance in technology and threat. "This isn't just a big missile for North Korea this is a big missile in general," Michael Duitsman, also research associate at CNS, told CNN. "There are not a lot of countries who could build a missile this big and have it work." http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/29/asia/north-korea-hwasong-15-missile/index.html I wonder how much of that is Iran's doing. 1
Tiberius Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I wonder how much of that is Iran's doing. And Russia's 1
DC Tom Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 Of course you'd blame Trump. You're such an ass.
Tiberius Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Of course you'd blame Trump. You're such an ass. Because Russia? Same thing, huh?
boyst Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 So, has Best Korea even addressed the reentry vehicle yet or are we still kvetching over bull ****?
sherpa Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boyst62 said: So, has Best Korea even addressed the reentry vehicle yet or are we still kvetching over bull ****? And as the frog sits, the water gets warmer. Edited November 30, 2017 by sherpa
boyst Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 23 minutes ago, sherpa said: And as the frog sits, the water gets warmer. We don't have many realistic approaches with them as the United States. The rest of the world is on their laurels and not interested. They're dealing with their own issues they aren't worried about because Best Korea isn't targeting them. China doesn't care, Japan may care, so might WK. But BK is in a win/win situation. That little pea body dictator has everyone where he wants them.
DC Tom Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: We don't have many realistic approaches with them as the United States. The rest of the world is on their laurels and not interested. They're dealing with their own issues they aren't worried about because Best Korea isn't targeting them. China doesn't care, Japan may care, so might WK. But BK is in a win/win situation. That little pea body dictator has everyone where he wants them. China cares. And Japan REALLY cares. You think Japan's debating military expeditionary forces and building aircraft carriers again just for the hell of it?
Deranged Rhino Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 3 hours ago, DC Tom said: I wonder how much of that is Iran's doing. Quite a bit, I'd imagine. But I'd also like to investigate a few others who would benefit from the acceleration of the DPRK nuclear program. Hyangsan Hotel, NK...
DC Tom Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Quite a bit, I'd imagine. But I'd also like to investigate a few others who would benefit from the acceleration of the DPRK nuclear program. Hyangsan Hotel, NK... A Georgi meme would have been the perfect response, and you missed it.
Deranged Rhino Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: A Georgi meme would have been the perfect response, and you missed it. True. The pic I used is along the same lines, just in a more subtle way.
DC Tom Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: True. The pic I used is along the same lines, just in a more subtle way. I don't think aliens built the Hyangsan Hotel, even if it is pyramidal.
Deranged Rhino Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I don't think aliens built the Hyangsan Hotel, even if it is pyramidal. I don't either. (Fun exercise to make Tom call me an idiot: How many floors are there in the hotel? Why is that number significant? What other image was this hotel modeled after? Why is that important to this conversation?) Edited November 30, 2017 by Deranged Rhino
Deranged Rhino Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, ALF said: "This isn't just a big missile for North Korea this is a big missile in general," Michael Duitsman, also research associate at CNS, told CNN. "There are not a lot of countries who could build a missile this big and have it work." Just for fun... ... Outside of support from Iran and Russia (which is highly probable) and other traditional nation states, are there other groups in existence with the technology to help accelerate the DPRK's rocket program? http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html http://www.weeklystandard.com/elon-musk-wants-to-end-government-subsidies/article/2009014 http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/economy-budget/345338-can-we-wean-elon-musk-off-government-support-already Edited November 30, 2017 by Deranged Rhino
boyst Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 42 minutes ago, DC Tom said: China cares. And Japan REALLY cares. You think Japan's debating military expeditionary forces and building aircraft carriers again just for the hell of it? I don't see any country putting boots on the ground as an offensive. best Korea is too unstable Different question, what is protocol for US jets or other nations needing to crash land/mayday on to a carrier not of their countrys origin?
sherpa Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: I don't see any country putting boots on the ground as an offensive. best Korea is too unstable Different question, what is protocol for US jets or other nations needing to crash land/mayday on to a carrier not of their countrys origin? That's a weird question, but I have significant carrier experience. The answer is that you would never "crash land," intentionally, on any carrier, your's or otherwise. You would get close by and eject, and let the search and rescue forces pluck you out of the water. You don't, one day, land on a carrier. Most planes aren't equipped for it, and unless trained extensively, it isn't possible. That includes the US Air Force. Simply not possible, and the damage would far exceed a simple "give it back to the taxpayer" ejection. 1
DC Tom Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 17 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: I don't see any country putting boots on the ground as an offensive. best Korea is too unstable Different question, what is protocol for US jets or other nations needing to crash land/mayday on to a carrier not of their countrys origin? The protocol is: eject. Nobody crash lands on a carrier if they can avoid it...and they can generally avoid it unless they're already committed to landing.
ALF Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Boyst62 said: So, has Best Korea even addressed the reentry vehicle yet or are we still kvetching over bull ****? The ICBM does not have to land, exploding above ground would knock out the electrical grid.
DC Tom Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, ALF said: The ICBM does not have to land, exploding above ground would knock out the electrical grid. Above the atmosphere, not just above ground.
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