GG Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 Sorry, I forgot this board was strictly for praising everything the Bills front office has accomplished over the last 17 years. There's no shortage of criticism when OBD makes a bad move. The Groy tender doesn't appear to be one, especially since the offer sheet is lower than the tender amount.
Riverboat Richie Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 Option 1. Please don't change my words. No one was offering a second for him. Never. Was not going to happen. Have you considered the other side of the negotiating table that Groy's agent didn't want to accept Bills long term offer until they saw what the market offers? That's why the Bills protected themselves with the tender and guessing that he wouldn't get a blow out offer. They guessed right. The Rams offer isn't a big deal to match, and now Bills have a bigger decision to make about Wood than they do about Groy. Not if you think he's your starter. You offer him better than the tender in that case. You work out a better all around deal..... I mean if you think he's THAT important to your success.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) He's not the starter... he's the backup Center, 6th OL in heavy formations, and a backup guard. We now have another backup guard, and another backup center. With a new coach i don't know how much we'll use a 6th OL, but between lewis, kouandjo, and ducasse we have options. I'm not even sure i match the offer sheet at this point. Edited March 14, 2017 by dneveu
GG Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 Not if you think he's your starter. You offer him better than the tender in that case. You work out a better all around deal..... I mean if you think he's THAT important to your success. Don't understand why people are questioning this. It looks like Bills were spot on Groy's market value and now have an option to match a low starter/high back up contract. With three centers on the roster they have options
Riverboat Richie Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 He's not the starter... he's the backup Center, 6th OL in heavy formations, and a backup guard. We now have another backup guard, and another backup center. With a new coach i don't know how much we'll use a 6th OL, but between lewis, kouandjo, and ducasse we have options. I'm not even sure i match the offer sheet at this point. When people suggest releasing Wood and plugging in Groy what does that mean? Follow the conversation.
34-78-83 Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 Watch the tape of that game. He more than held his own in passing downs against the very good Jets interior DLs I'm going more off of seeing him in camp and seeing him in each game from his entry in the Seattle game. He is NOT a good pass protector without help. With that said I'd like to see the Bills match the Ram offer. He's a decent player and with TT at the helm, is a good option for backup center.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 @caplannfl #Bills C/G Ryan Groy has now signed the 2-year RFA offer sheet with the #Rams, source said.
RyanC883 Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) draft Eric Pocic (LSU). Played Guard and Center I believe. Problem solved. Here are some other names: http://www.si.com/2017-nfl-draft-rankings-centers Edited March 14, 2017 by RyanC883
Kirby Jackson Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 They should match this. They'll get him for less than the 2nd round tender.
The Jokeman Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 draft Eric Pocic (LSU). Played Guard and Center I believe. Problem solved. Here are some other names: http://www.si.com/2017-nfl-draft-rankings-centers Pocic is tall at 6'6" and might be considered too tall to play on the interior, especially at Center you want a guy with a low center of gravity so DTs can't dip underneath them/bull rush easily.
MPT Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 No but this forum also isn't for ignorant fools either... Also patently untrue. You guys are batting zero in this thread.
4merper4mer Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 Don't understand why people are questioning this. It looks like Bills were spot on Groy's market value and now have an option to match a low starter/high back up contract. With three centers on the roster they have options You must criticize Whaley on days the sun rises in the East. Get with the program.
MPT Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 There's no shortage of criticism when OBD makes a bad move. The Groy tender doesn't appear to be one, especially since the offer sheet is lower than the tender amount. That last point is indeed fortunate. Hope we match the offer even if it means over paying a backup for one year.
JimKellyTryouts Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 Kroman and Romer had way more to do with Wood'a improvement than Tyrod imo Having Richie and John next to him as opposed to the crap Marrone put out on the field (Colin Brown, Doug Legursky, etc.) also makes the C's job much easier
Mickey Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) @mikerodak: The Rams have agreed to extend Bills restricted FA center Ryan Groy a two-year offer sheet, per @caplannfl & me. Bills have 5 days to match @mikerodak: Ryan Groy would reunite with Aaron Kromer with Rams and likely start at center. Expect $$ from Rams offer to match that situation. Sounds like they'll have to choose between him or Eric Wood. And i'm sure they'll keep Wood. But it's definitely worth a discussion. It's probably too steep to keep them both if the Rams offer is starting Center money. Hmmm....I wonder what the Patriots would do in this situation? Jettison Wood and his contract as he hits the downside of his career and sign Groy, saving lots of cap space and sewing up that hole in the roster for the next 4-5 years or stick with Wood and his high salary only to have to find a replacement for him in a year or two? Edited March 16, 2017 by Mickey
nucci Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 When people suggest releasing Wood and plugging in Groy what does that mean? Follow the conversation. He is...he's just giving his opinion
MPT Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 Hmmm....I wonder what the Patriots would do in this situation? Jettison Wood and his contract as he hits the downside of his career and sign Groy, saving lots of cap space and sowing up that hole in the roster for the next 4-5 years or stick with Wood and his high salary only to have to find a replacement for him in a year or two? The problem with that would be Wood's dead cap hit this year. Hopefully they can unload that contract on someone, but they should match Groy's offer either way.
Riverboat Richie Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 He is...he's just giving his opinion My apologies if I took what he said the wrong way then. Hard to tell who's paying attention sometimes.
nucci Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 My apologies if I took what he said the wrong way then. Hard to tell who's paying attention sometimes. no problem....it's gotten a bit crowded here lately.....
Riverboat Richie Posted March 14, 2017 Posted March 14, 2017 He's not the starter... he's the backup Center, 6th OL in heavy formations, and a backup guard. We now have another backup guard, and another backup center. With a new coach i don't know how much we'll use a 6th OL, but between lewis, kouandjo, and ducasse we have options. I'm not even sure i match the offer sheet at this point. I apologize if I took this the wrong way. I shouldn't have jumped on you for it.
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