BuffaloSol Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 I love the potential this guy brings to the table, but I can't find any updates on his progress converting to TE. He was a WR/TE as a Sophmore in High School before moving to QB and Safety as a junior. 6'6" 248 and these are his combine numbers. 40 YARD DASH: 4.61 SEC VERTICAL JUMP: 35.5 INCH BROAD JUMP: 118.0 INCH 3 CONE DRILL: 7.05 SEC 20 YARD SHUTTLE: 4.18 SEC An athletic only comparison to OJ howard at this year's NFL Combine. 6'6" 250 40 YARD DASH: 4.51 SEC BENCH PRESS: 22 REPS VERTICAL JUMP: 30.0 INCH BROAD JUMP: 121.0 INCH 3 CONE DRILL: 6.85 SEC 20 YARD SHUTTLE: 4.16 SEC 60 YARD SHUTTLE: 11.46 SEC Bottomline he is at the very least an interesting prospect, but I don't know anything about his work ethic or progress switching to TE except the Lions tried stashing him on the P.S. and we picked him up in November. Random interesting tidbit, his throws at the combine are one of the fastest clocked there ever at 60 mph. THOUGHTS?
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 I love the potential this guy brings to the table, but I can't find any updates on his progress converting to TE. He was a WR/TE as a Sophmore in High School before moving to QB and Safety as a junior. 6'6" 248 and these are his combine numbers. 40 YARD DASH: 4.61 SEC VERTICAL JUMP: 35.5 INCH BROAD JUMP: 118.0 INCH 3 CONE DRILL: 7.05 SEC 20 YARD SHUTTLE: 4.18 SEC An athletic only comparison to OJ howard at this year's NFL Combine. 6'6" 250 40 YARD DASH: 4.51 SEC BENCH PRESS: 22 REPS VERTICAL JUMP: 30.0 INCH BROAD JUMP: 121.0 INCH 3 CONE DRILL: 6.85 SEC 20 YARD SHUTTLE: 4.16 SEC 60 YARD SHUTTLE: 11.46 SEC Bottomline he is at the very least an interesting prospect, but I don't know anything about his work ethic or progress switching to TE except the Lions tried stashing him on the P.S. and we picked him up in November. Random interesting tidbit, his throws at the combine are one of the fastest clocked there ever at 60 mph. THOUGHTS? ....sure is and he could be a dark horse......good job on stats comparison.......Pryor made the transition to new position......so did George Wilson......he'll be Boras' camp conversion project and could be very interesting especially with that size....stay tuned.............
swnybillsfan Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 for some reason, whenever i think about these converted QBs...i think of all the wacky gadget plays that could be run. but then i think back to the mularkey days and want to shove something very sharp into my eye. having said that, i love an underdog and who wouldn't love to have a 6'6" athletic TE on the field?
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 for some reason, whenever i think about these converted QBs...i think of all the wacky gadget plays that could be run. but then i think back to the mularkey days and want to shove something very sharp into my eye. having said that, i love an underdog and who wouldn't love to have a 6'6" athletic TE on the field? ....LOL.....shades of Brad Smith, the $3.6 million dollar "Wildcat Man"..............
swnybillsfan Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 ....LOL.....shades of Brad Smith, the $3.6 million dollar "Wildcat Man".............. yes. i liked brad smith. at least, i liked the idea of brad smith. but i have seen what NE has done to us forever with TEs and i really want one of this big bastards on our team. of course, then i kinda need a qb who will throw him the damn ball!
RyanC883 Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 I think he can make the switch. An important question to ask along with this is how is TT progressing in terms of throwing the ball to multiple targets per game?
machine gun kelly Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 Yeah and he's got the same name as Wolverine.
The Frankish Reich Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 What a shame, giving up on him as a QB. You do realize he's the modern day leader in Ball Velocity? (See the link in the ball velocity thread.) In all seriousness -- guy is a real football player who didn't even want to play QB. It may take a year or so, but I think he could be a surprising position change success (and the record of QBs changing positions isn't so good with one notable exception, Terrelle Pryor)
wppete Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 Excited to see what he can do in camp. Hope he surprises everyone.
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 Thomas was the #1 TE nationally coming out of HS.... http://www.hokiesports.com/football/players/thomas_logan.html I see a tremendous upside there considering he played the position at a high level already so it's not like he's learning a new position, I don't see any downside to him being here as a TE, if he fails it was a cheap option that didn't work out.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 Thomas was the #1 TE nationally coming out of HS.... http://www.hokiesports.com/football/players/thomas_logan.html I see a tremendous upside there considering he played the position at a high level already so it's not like he's learning a new position, I don't see any downside to him being here as a TE, if he fails it was a cheap option that didn't work out. ...with that size and speed, this kid could be a sleeper.....Meatball's success as a 5th rounder was our last sleeper....LOOOOOONG overdue.......
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 ...with that size and speed, this kid could be a sleeper.....Meatball's success as a 5th rounder was our last sleeper....LOOOOOONG overdue....... Agree to all of it.
BuffaloSol Posted March 12, 2017 Author Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) Thomas was the #1 TE nationally coming out of HS.... http://www.hokiesports.com/football/players/thomas_logan.html I see a tremendous upside there considering he played the position at a high level already so it's not like he's learning a new position, I don't see any downside to him being here as a TE, if he fails it was a cheap option that didn't work out. Wow #1 TE coming out, dude has major upside for sure. I think it will just depend on how hard he works. Clay could have a decent impact on his blocking skills. Also, I really think a guy like Anquan Bolden would do wonders for our receivers and tight ends, from a veteran leadership stand point. Edited March 12, 2017 by BuffaloSol
boyst Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 it's a lot of hope for a longshot chance. it won't hurt to try him out. but, if we keep in the spirit of this than we should sign big ben and play him at WR.
BuffaloSol Posted March 12, 2017 Author Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) it's a lot of hope for a longshot chance. it won't hurt to try him out. but, if we keep in the spirit of this than we should sign big ben and play him at WR. Yeah, I remember when he ran 4.6 with a 35 inch vertical at the combine. He was also the number 1 rated TE coming out of high school. Why hasn't he switched yet, bro, ya know what I mean dawg!!! Quaterbacks can only be one dementional, there should be absolutely no one that questions that. If you question the norm or are someone that questions following me then you are obviously just being racist. Edited March 12, 2017 by BuffaloSol
#34fan Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) Nothing against Thomas, but I hope he's cut once we draft OJ Howard... There's literally no other pick, unless we take one of the "iffy" QB's on offer... -An egregious error, as I've stated publicly many times... It's Howard, or we're idiots... End of story. Edited March 12, 2017 by #34fan
Buffalo716 Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 ...with that size and speed, this kid could be a sleeper.....Meatball's success as a 5th rounder was our last sleeper....LOOOOOONG overdue....... Nickell Robey UDFA Stevie Johnson 7th Fred Jackson UDFA
3rdand12 Posted March 12, 2017 Posted March 12, 2017 for some reason, whenever i think about these converted QBs...i think of all the wacky gadget plays that could be run. but then i think back to the mularkey days and want to shove something very sharp into my eye. having said that, i love an underdog and who wouldn't love to have a 6'6" athletic TE on the field? Good post. But the bolded i just cracked up over !! Stevie in the 7th? Fitz made him the star he was. Its all about the QB
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