BeastMode54 Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 I know both of these players were tendered at their original round tender which I think is 5th round and FA, at extremely low salaries. I would be extremely disappointed if by placing a 2nd round tender on TD Mike for $1 more is the difference between him staying and leaving. He needs to be on the team. And Groy was very good in Woods absence. My question is, can another team only match our offer? Or can they take either player by bettering the offer? And can the Bills match and offer? I just don't know quite how it works.
Woodman19 Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) I believe it gives the Bills a right to match outside offers otherwise they take the compensation value if we don't. 5th for Mike and nothing for Groy. Either way, we keep them unless another team really blows them out with a terribly bad team deal. Edited March 11, 2017 by Woodman19
BeastMode54 Posted March 11, 2017 Author Posted March 11, 2017 I believe it gives the Bills a right to match outside offers otherwise they take the compensation value if we don't. 5th for Mike and nothing for Groy. Either way, we keep them unless another team really blows them out with a terribly bad team deal. Great, thanks!
Woodman19 Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 It's actually a sneaky way to secure a long term deal. Tender below their value to encourage another team to negotiate a long term deal then simply match it.
Pbomb Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 When is the date that another team can no longer try to get them
Wayne Cubed Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 When is the date that another team can no longer try to get them April 21st
mikemac2001 Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 It's actually a sneaky way to secure a long term deal. Tender below their value to encourage another team to negotiate a long term deal then simply match it. Never thought of that Smart and makes sense
Woodman19 Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 Never thought of that Smart and makes sense especially when a draft pick is tied to them, teams are more motivated to pay less by factoring in the lost pick value.
K-9 Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 I have a question regarding RFAs as well. I had asked if anyone thought Ross Cockrell was worth the 4th round price to get him from the Steelers. Someone said we don't have a 4th rounder this year. Does that mean teams are precluded from making offers to tendered RFAs if they don't have the prescribed compensatory pick in this year's draft or can other arrangements be made?
FireChan Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) I have a question regarding RFAs as well. I had asked if anyone thought Ross Cockrell was worth the 4th round price to get him from the Steelers. Someone said we don't have a 4th rounder this year. Does that mean teams are precluded from making offers to tendered RFAs if they don't have the prescribed compensatory pick in this year's draft or can other arrangements be made? Yes. In all seriousness, you can trade for the player outside of the tender. Pats instead of signing Welker and giving up a second round pick when he was tendered by the Dolphins, they just traded picks for him then signed him/ Edited March 11, 2017 by FireChan
Utah John Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 The Groy and Gillislee tenders let the other teams set the market value. That's actually fair to the players and to the Bills.
wppete Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 I believe it gives the Bills a right to match outside offers otherwise they take the compensation value if we don't. 5th for Mike and nothing for Groy. Either way, we keep them unless another team really blows them out with a terribly bad team deal. That makes sense thanks!
eSJayDee Posted March 11, 2017 Posted March 11, 2017 It's actually a sneaky way to secure a long term deal. Tender below their value to encourage another team to negotiate a long term deal then simply match it. How is this "sneaky"? Basically, you're letting someone else do the negotiating for you & by doing so, you've eliminated the possibility of getting them for a lesser price either due to "hometown discount" or lack of diligence/effort seeking a better deal. I believe players can present only 1 offer, which their team is allowed to match. Personally, I think tendering Groy at the lowest is a mistake. I think he's worth keeping for the ~$2.4m (we just paid Mills $2m) & for the sake of $1m in cap (& cash), it's likely you lose that player (just like Hogan last yr). The 5th for TD Mike might be enough to scare someone away, or at least if it isn't, chances are they're also willing to give him far more $ than he'd be worth to us as a 2nd string RB.
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