Alphadawg7 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) If I am Cleveland: I do this trade all day. Got a great draft asset for essentially cap space they had available to use. They will trade or cut him...basically means cut him. Eat the cap space, which they have room to do, and load up in the next 2 drafts. If I am Houston: I do this trade all day. Get rid of an awful contract that will be an anchor on this team and prevent it from it being anything more than a 9 win wildcard team with no real chance to advance unless they get to play the Raiders missing Carr every year in the first round. It cost you a 2nd, but that is a small price to pay to improve your team moving forward. Edited March 9, 2017 by Alphadawg7
Chuck Wagon Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 They didn't spend anything. If they cut Osweiler, they still keep the 2nd rounder. They spent $16 mil to turn a 4th into a 2nd and a 6th. It's still a business, they spent something.
Doc Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Funny thing is Cleveland just got better at QB...... They did? Nope. They didn't even get better at QB over what they had (since I assume your implying they got better than the Bills at QB).
WGBillsFan Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Casserly just said you don't spend 16 million for a 2nd Rd pick and he's right Yeah...they said he is not their future just a bridge QB so why not take Cutler they already have a ton of picks.
Captain Murica Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 WTF is going on here?????? Can someone explain???? This FA season so far has been nuts! FA day hits and everyone loses their minds.
bobobonators Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) How are people not understanding that this is a good deal for Cleveland? Getting Osweiler doesnt put them against the cap in any way, nor are the committed to him. They are free to do what they want with him, pretty much penalty-free as far as competing goes. They landed a 2nd pick in 2018 and a 6th for a 4th. They keep accumulating picks, and when the time comes, they will have many options dealing with their bountiful cap space. They are doing what the Bills should be doing. Tear it down to the studs, accumulate picks and quantity, look at a 3-5 year plan (currently in year 2), with the goal of being a perennial contender for a decade+ Yes, everyone should aspire to follow the Browns model. People are going off the deep end in this thread. "We should be like the Browns!!!" Too much madden around here from the looks of it. Edited March 9, 2017 by bobobonators
Beast Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Cleveland again proves they have no clue That's the one thing we have going for us.
BuffaloBud420 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 So Bills could of got a 2nd round pick and Osweiler for 16 mil but would rather pay Tyrod 10. Huh
MiltonWaddams Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Osweiler cut and returns to Denver. Romo to Houston. Just prognostications
TheFunPolice Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 The worst part of all this is that when the Browns get good we'll have to see those awful uniforms on national TV a lot more often The pants look like $5 sweats you get at Walmart on clearance
Doc Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 they get the contract, dead money They spent $16 mil to turn a 4th into a 2nd and a 6th. It's still a business, they spent something. Is $16M his 2017 salary, and is it guaranteed? If so, then I retract what I said.
dave mcbride Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Cleveland again proves they have no clue That is brilliant, actually! Fans need to understand that there is a SALARY CAP FLOOR that every team has to meet. The Browns are ridiculously below the cap right now -- like, the farthest below the cap than any team in NFL history. They basically just picked up a second rounder and and made it easier to deal with their cap situation. If I am Cleveland: I do this trade all day. Got a great draft asset for essentially cap space they had available to use. They will trade or cut him...basically means cut him. Eat the cap space, which they have room to do, and load up in the next 2 drafts. If I am Houston: I do this trade all day. Get rid of an awful contract that will be an anchor on this team and prevent it from it being anything more than a 9 win wildcard team with no real chance to advance unless they get to play the Raiders missing Carr every year in the first round. It cost you a 2nd, but that is a small price to pay to improve your team moving forward. yes. And as I say above, it's a smart salary cap move for them.
jeffismagic Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Cleveland just loaded up and has a great offensive line now from FA. JC Tretter was a great signing.
dave mcbride Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 So Bills could of got a 2nd round pick and Osweiler for 16 mil but would rather pay Tyrod 10. Huh The salary cap floor. It's a thing.
May Day 10 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 You're right. We should chase 1-15 instead. Christ. They werent chasing 1-15. The goal was to clear the deck and accumulate assets with the long-view in mind. Like has been posted, they have 22 picks in the next 2 drafts, and just had 14 in 2016. The Bills have done the opposite of that... traded up in the draft for little value and spent foolishly. It has gotten them nowhere. The Browns have a real opportunity to build a solid football team, possibly as soon as 2018
CommonCents Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Yes, everyone should aspire to follow the Browns model. People are going off the deep end in this thread. "We should be like the Browns!!!" Too much madden around here from the looks of it. Look up to the post which listed all the Browns picks in 17', 18'. Then go look at some of their recent additions on OLine and front 7 on D. IF they draft well they will be loaded with young talent and still have plenty of cap room with which they can bolster the roster through FA. It's clear they have a plan in place. What's the plan in Buffalo?
JohnC Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 What do you mean? They took the contact and got a 2nd round pick. They have a ton of money to spend and can cut Brock after the season. They basically bought a 2nd round pick. You are right. This is a terrific deal for the Browns and it also helps out the Texans. The Browns have no obligation to him after the season and they get a second round pick that they can use for a good prospect. Osweiller can be used as a backup so they get some utility out of him.
dave mcbride Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) I suggest everyone who is still paying attention to this story/debate read this, which is from a year ago and hence a bit outdated because the four-year rolling average moved forward a year to where we are now: http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2016/3/8/11181686/cleveland-browns-salary-cap-understanding-the-89-cash-spending . Edited March 9, 2017 by dave mcbride
bilzfancy Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 That is brilliant, actually! Fans need to understand that there is a SALARY CAP FLOOR that every team has to meet. The Browns are ridiculously below the cap right now -- like, the farthest below the cap than any team in NFL history. They basically just picked up a second rounder and and made it easier to deal with their cap situation. yes. And as I say above, it's a smart salary cap move for them. they basically paid 16 million for a 2018 2nd Rd pick, IMO, not smart use of money
CommonCents Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 That is brilliant, actually! Fans need to understand that there is a SALARY CAP FLOOR that every team has to meet. The Browns are ridiculously below the cap right now -- like, the farthest below the cap than any team in NFL history. They basically just picked up a second rounder and and made it easier to deal with their cap situation. yes. And as I say above, it's a smart salary cap move for them. I think some of the refugees got off at the wrong stop.
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