Patrick Duffy Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) You new bro? No, I've known that the Gilmore megadeal was coming for a very long time. I'm not the least bit upset about that. I do, however, find it astonishing when folks massively misrepresent situations with players. As I said earlier in the thread, I really need to work on caring less about accuracy with regard to takes. Lol @ you new? "im a big bad message board veteran." haha, Yea, guess you can say I'm a new member to this particular message board, but not new to know how aweful Gilmore was this past season. Not misrepresenting anything, I know what I saw with Gilmore and it was just plain bad. You can say what you want but he gets a lot of penalties, scared of contact, and got beat pretty bad this past season. Also coming from a player like Gilmore who wanted to play more man to man because he thought he was that good. That clearly wasn't the case. Obviously it hurt your feelings in some sort of way to see him go since your so angry. Oh and LOL @ "you new bro" again. Lame. Edited March 9, 2017 by Patrick_Duffy
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 That's what we all hope. I just don't think it'll be easy, though there's supposed to be some good DBs in this draft. It's kinda embarrassing how bad Bills fan have underestimated Gilmore his entire career. If he only smiled when he got drafted! But it has to be awful to play for NE for a lot of money.
KermitMcDermott Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Another guy who might go to find success on a Super Bowl caliber team year in and out, and HOW COULD WE LET HIM GO?!?!?!?! Singing him to big money here here wasn't going to make him better. Playing for NE will. Edited March 9, 2017 by KermitMcDermott
Patrick Duffy Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 You found 3 plays from the 2016 season and a Madden highlight Control your anger. It will be ok. Gilmore can be replaced with another CB who's cheaper, hungrier, and will actually tackle. He's gone, deal with it...
gr8billsfan Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Lol what a backstabber. But then again, OBD messed up by letting this happen
thebandit27 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Lol @ you new? "im a big bad message board veteran." haha, Yea, guess you can say I'm a new member to this particular message board, but not new to know how aweful Gilmore was this past season. Not misrepresenting anything, I know what I saw with Gilmore and it was just plain bad. You can say what you want but he gets a lot of penalties, scared of contact, and got beat pretty bad this past season. Also coming from a player like Gilmore who wanted to play more man to man because he thought he was that good. That clearly wasn't the case. Obviously it hurt your feelings in some sort of way to see him go since your so angry. Oh and LOL @ "you new bro" again. Lame. I'm starting to like you...anyone that gets this defensive about being blatantly wrong is okay with me Gilmore stats for the 2016 season: 69 targets, 40 receptions, 627 yards, 2 TDs, 5 INTs, 67.7 passer rating against Sherman stats for the 2016 season: 85 targets, 44 receptions, 624 yards, 2 TDs, 4 INTs, 64.0 passer rating against Sources: http://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/01/11/why-bills-cb-stephon-gilmore-wasnt-as-bad-as-you-thought-in-2016/ http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000769950/article/yearend-cornerback-rankings-richard-sherman-lands-at-no-1 If you can call that terrible, then I guess Sherman is terrible too...worse than Gilmore actually. Either that, or you have no clue what you're talking about....but hey, keep calling me "mad" because it bolsters your point And please don't stop posting...I come here for entertainment and you're a real gas! Control your anger. It will be ok. Gilmore can be replaced with another CB who's cheaper, hungrier, and will actually tackle. He's gone, deal with it... As I said, I came to terms with his departure long ago. You new guys are funny: anyone that doesn't let you post whatever you want regardless of reality is apparently "mad".
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Lol what a backstabber. But then again, OBD messed up by letting this happen Backstabber??? A lot of fans couldn't past him not smiling on draft day and trashed everything he did here. Matter of fact, this might be the ultimate Pats troll job against Bills fans. First, they get Hogan, who wasn't as good as D'Rick Rogers. Now, Gilmore, who will be easily replaced by some rookie who will be better. People are going to learn their minds when they sign EJ and flip him for a 1st rounder haha!
KermitMcDermott Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Lol what a backstabber. None of these guys care. Give them their money, or give them the best chance to win for endorsement deals.
Reed83HOF Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 It's kinda embarrassing how bad Bills fan have underestimated Gilmore his entire career. If he only smiled when he got drafted! But it has to be awful to play for NE for a lot of money. It's so billsian....
Foxx Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 It's shocking from a Patriots stand point. When is the last time they went out and signed a free agent for top dollar? That is not there thing. does Darelle Revis ring a bell? i'm still not convinced he is worth what he will be getting.
BobDVA Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 I have never been a Gilmore fan, now with him in NE*. i now have the right to hate him,
RevWarRifleman Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 I hope I wind up being wrong , but I think Gilmore is going to be a better player in NE for 3 important reasons that Buffalo doesn't have. 1. better coaching, starting with BB 2. he'll have better talent around him on the field, that always helps. 3. the Patriots come into each season expecting to get to, and win the superbowl! Within the first 5 minutes of the first OTA this spring let alone during training camp, he'll know he's no longer in Kansas with toto. Throughout his career he's been with a franchise that hopes to get above 500% and has never made it but one time. The 3 points above are huge motivators for any athlete. The only drawback I see for him is that he's a bit fragil and may miss some games each season. Anyway, that's my 2 cents.
Jerry Jabber Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Lol @ you new? "im a big bad message board veteran." haha, Yea, guess you can say I'm a new member to this particular message board, but not new to know how aweful Gilmore was this past season. Not misrepresenting anything, I know what I saw with Gilmore and it was just plain bad. You can say what you want but he gets a lot of penalties, scared of contact, and got beat pretty bad this past season. Also coming from a player like Gilmore who wanted to play more man to man because he thought he was that good. That clearly wasn't the case. Obviously it hurt your feelings in some sort of way to see him go since your so angry. Oh and LOL @ "you new bro" again. Lame. +1 Patrick, Bandit is by far the biggest Gilmore homer on here. Anytime someone says some negative about Gilmore, he's quick to respond. It's true, Bills fans over-value certain players and this guy thinks Gilmore is the best CB to ever play the game.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 NE rarely make FA mistakes. Buffalo fans do not see Gilmore like those outside WNY. The guy is talented and I see him haunting the Bills for years to come. Bills continue to let first round draft picks, that are not busts, walk in Free Agency. I feel like NE makes a lot of bad FA mistakes. This is another one. Is anyone actually worried about playing against Gilmore twice per year?
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 I feel like NE makes a lot of bad FA mistakes. This is another one. Is anyone actually worried about playing against Gilmore twice per year? Haha. They beat us twice a year anyways and we have an awful passing attack.
Andrew Son Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 +1 Patrick, Bandit is by far the biggest Gilmore homer on here. Anytime someone says some negative about Gilmore, he's quick to respond. It's true, Bills fans over-value certain players and this guy thinks Gilmore is the best CB to ever play the game. I think I would tend to take belichick's side of this particular debate
John from Riverside Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 I hope I wind up being wrong , but I think Gilmore is going to be a better player in NE for 3 important reasons that Buffalo doesn't have. 1. better coaching, starting with BB 2. he'll have better talent around him on the field, that always helps. 3. the Patriots come into each season expecting to get to, and win the superbowl! Within the first 5 minutes of the first OTA this spring let alone during training camp, he'll know he's no longer in Kansas with toto. Throughout his career he's been with a franchise that hopes to get above 500% and has never made it but one time. The 3 points above are huge motivators for any athlete. The only drawback I see for him is that he's a bit fragil and may miss some games each season. Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Im curious at what better defensive talent you think he has around him (the pats are also losing free agents) everything....EVERYTHING that the patriots do that has to do with winning is put around their Hall of Fame QB and Bill B. you take Brady off this team and watch the losses start to come in
thebandit27 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) +1 Patrick, Bandit is by far the biggest Gilmore homer on here. Anytime someone says some negative about Gilmore, he's quick to respond. It's true, Bills fans over-value certain players and this guy thinks Gilmore is the best CB to ever play the game. And as I've told you before, you're dead wrong. Again. I call 'Em down the middle. Go see my comments about his performances against the Jets and Pats from 2016. Or don't. I honestly don't care, but you look silly when you chalk up facts to homerism and choose instead to lend credence to nebulous, unsupported opinion. The "eye test" is what folks claim when their agenda doesn't mesh with facts. Case-in-point: I claim he's an excellent corner, some claim he's lousy. The stats, the money, and the opinion of the guy that many call the greatest coach of his generation support my stance. Abstract statements support the opposite. A little common sense should indicate which side of the fence is grounded in reality, and which is simply agenda-driven nonsense. I'm now ready for Jerry's oh-so-predictable reply: "Yeah but the Jets game!!!1!1!1!111!!!" Edited March 9, 2017 by thebandit27
Patrick Duffy Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 +1 Patrick, Bandit is by far the biggest Gilmore homer on here. Anytime someone says some negative about Gilmore, he's quick to respond. It's true, Bills fans over-value certain players and this guy thinks Gilmore is the best CB to ever play the game. lol, I can certainly tell. Pretty funny to me. But anyways, whatever floats his boat I guess. Sometimes fans have a hard time getting over certain players leaving and/or getting benched. I have seen a few people get all mad and defensive about EJ when he was benched also, lol so nothing new for me. I find it quite comical.
RevWarRifleman Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Im curious at what better defensive talent you think he has around him (the pats are also losing free agents) everything....EVERYTHING that the patriots do that has to do with winning is put around their Hall of Fame QB and Bill B. you take Brady off this team and watch the losses start to come in John, of course if you take B & B away they're a different team. But an offense that makes lots of plays & scores points motivates a defense. No, the Pats D is not the Steel Curtain, but they were good enough to help get them to the SB and win it(again) a few months ago. Offense helps defense & vice versa.
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