Blokestradamus Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 At 10? You have him playing outside or inside in this scheme? I'm having a hard time fitting anyone in right now, Davis and Kuechly were just too damn good. If they took Foster, my LB group would ideally go: Will - Foster Mike - Ragland Sam - Z Brown Forget comparing to two of the greatest LB's of the past decade and focus on what the players we have do best. You'll drive yourself mad if that's your benchmark.
jeffismagic Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) If they took Foster, my LB group would ideally go: Will - Foster Mike - Ragland Sam - Z Brown Forget comparing to two of the greatest LB's of the past decade and focus on what the players we have do best. You'll drive yourself mad if that's your benchmark. I just don't see taking linebackers with high draft picks as the way to go. Linebackers are like guards. You need them but you don't need to take one in the first round. And with that drafting philosophy the only exception would be a special player like Ray Lewis or Urlacher. Edited March 4, 2017 by jeffismagic
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Not a good look, but not as big a deal as some here seem to think. He'll still be a baller in the NFL.
Blokestradamus Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 I just don't see taking linebackers with high draft picks as the way to go. Linebackers are like guards. You need them but you don't need to take one in the first round. Honestly, I'd rather have the #1 linebacker than reach for the #3 safety, the #2/3 QB. Depends on how the board falls. You can state that "you can find linebackers anywhere" but you don't find premier athletes at linebacker later without a plethora of flaws. You want to build a LB group like the one McDermott had, Davis, Kuechly, Thompson all top-25 picks.
jeffismagic Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Honestly, I'd rather have the #1 linebacker than reach for the #3 safety, the #2/3 QB. Depends on how the board falls. You can state that "you can find linebackers anywhere" but you don't find premier athletes at linebacker later without a plethora of flaws. You want to build a LB group like the one McDermott had, Davis, Kuechly, Thompson all top-25 picks. I am not advocating we reach for another position. Just stating that linebackers that are not pass-rushers are not a premium position. Premium positions would be the obvious Pass Rusher and QB.
Blokestradamus Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 I am not advocating we reach for another position. Just stating that linebackers that are not pass-rushers are not a premium position. Premium positions would be the obvious Pass Rusher and QB. I get that and I absolutely agree. Although it's important to understand both the class and the situation your roster is in. I'll put things in my tiers as they pertain to picking 10th. QB - potential need, definite need of upgrade. Not one QB I'd take at 10. Pass rush - 1st on Shaq last year, Jerry under contract, we're not going DE at 10. McDowell as a 3-tech could make sense though. Pass protection - RT is a big need. Anyone at 10 is a reach but, for the right player (Ramczyk), I'll let it go. Pass catchers - Position of need. Currently only one WR with a 1st round grade for me. Corey Davis makes the list. Not a TE in the 1st kind of guy but I understand the intrigue of OJ Howard. Pass coverage - Gilmore goes, huge need. Lattimore and Humphrey are okay for me at 10. Safety is a massive need but rare guys only that early. Hooker makes the list. Special cases - basically any phenom talent, which I think Foster is. LB might not be a premium position but the creative freedom of having him at WLB in this scheme is hard to pass up. Reuben isn't the top of my list but he's on my list. I don't just want any LB, I want that one.
WGBillsFan Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 I would like to hear his side of the story...but got to question if he can't be on his best behaviour with all the teams brass and coaches there what he would be like when not under the microscope!
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 how about TJ Watt in the 2nd, is he a DE or OLB at the next level? I like Watt also, he seems to have the same work ethic as his bro which is a great thing. QB or RT at 10.
jeffismagic Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 I get that and I absolutely agree. Although it's important to understand both the class and the situation your roster is in. I'll put things in my tiers as they pertain to picking 10th. QB - potential need, definite need of upgrade. Not one QB I'd take at 10. Pass rush - 1st on Shaq last year, Jerry under contract, we're not going DE at 10. McDowell as a 3-tech could make sense though. Pass protection - RT is a big need. Anyone at 10 is a reach but, for the right player (Ramczyk), I'll let it go. Pass catchers - Position of need. Currently only one WR with a 1st round grade for me. Corey Davis makes the list. Not a TE in the 1st kind of guy but I understand the intrigue of OJ Howard. Pass coverage - Gilmore goes, huge need. Lattimore and Humphrey are okay for me at 10. Safety is a massive need but rare guys only that early. Hooker makes the list. Special cases - basically any phenom talent, which I think Foster is. LB might not be a premium position but the creative freedom of having him at WLB in this scheme is hard to pass up. Reuben isn't the top of my list but he's on my list. I don't just want any LB, I want that one. Fair enough. I haven't watched Foster that much. But that player better be SPECIAL if he is a linebacker at ten. I do think we can draft an elite WR at 10 or failing that and no one great is on the board trade back for Mahomes.
Bakin Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Man I know I get angry when waiting at the Doctors office. Who do they think they are, making me wait?
Blokestradamus Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Fair enough. I haven't watched Foster that much. But that player better be SPECIAL if he is a linebacker at ten. I do think we can draft an elite WR at 10 or failing that and no one great is on the board trade back for Mahomes. I think it's pretty much guaranteed that one of the guys I like will be there at 10 so I'm probably inclined to stay there. I like the trade back idea because of the depth of the class though. This is a class to have a 1st, 4 Day 2 picks and a couple of 4th rounders. I might not get my 'special' WR or CB but I like the mid-round options at those positions so I don't get too concerned if Davis/Lattimore go top 9. Kinda why I'm good with McDowell and Foster. I think LB especially is really iffy after a couple of guys if you want a stud.
jeffismagic Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 I think it's pretty much guaranteed that one of the guys I like will be there at 10 so I'm probably inclined to stay there. I like the trade back idea because of the depth of the class though. This is a class to have a 1st, 4 Day 2 picks and a couple of 4th rounders. I might not get my 'special' WR or CB but I like the mid-round options at those positions so I don't get too concerned if Davis/Lattimore go top 9. Kinda why I'm good with McDowell and Foster. I think LB especially is really iffy after a couple of guys if you want a stud. Completely agree. Bills have a lot of holes and there is so much depth in this draft. If the right situation presents itself would love to get another 2nd rounder.
NewEra Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 I get that and I absolutely agree. Although it's important to understand both the class and the situation your roster is in. I'll put things in my tiers as they pertain to picking 10th. QB - potential need, definite need of upgrade. Not one QB I'd take at 10. Pass rush - 1st on Shaq last year, Jerry under contract, we're not going DE at 10. McDowell as a 3-tech could make sense though. Pass protection - RT is a big need. Anyone at 10 is a reach but, for the right player (Ramczyk), I'll let it go. Pass catchers - Position of need. Currently only one WR with a 1st round grade for me. Corey Davis makes the list. Not a TE in the 1st kind of guy but I understand the intrigue of OJ Howard. Pass coverage - Gilmore goes, huge need. Lattimore and Humphrey are okay for me at 10. Safety is a massive need but rare guys only that early. Hooker makes the list. Special cases - basically any phenom talent, which I think Foster is. LB might not be a premium position but the creative freedom of having him at WLB in this scheme is hard to pass up. Reuben isn't the top of my list but he's on my list. I don't just want any LB, I want that one. Can we sticky this post? I agree with everything said 100%.
Blokestradamus Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Can we sticky this post? I agree with everything said 100%. I'm starting to get worried. Once upon a time, my takes got met with snorts of derision.
Buffalo86 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) http://alabama.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Reuben-Fosters-threat-led-to-heated-exchange-at-combine-51594450 Some color on the situation. More douchey than 'roid ragey but still not a great look. Robert Klemko Foster warned the man that he'd put hands on him, and the employee said, simply, Do it. 7:14 AM - 4 Mar 2017 Anybody know if the hospital employee is available? Edited March 4, 2017 by Buffalo86
NewEra Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 I'm starting to get worried. Once upon a time, my takes got met with snorts of derision. No contempt from me my friend. I love your takes on all things football. I may not agree with everything you say, more like 99%, but your tact is appreciated with your delivery. A true pillar of the TBD community you are
jeffismagic Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Robert Klemko Foster warned the man that he'd put hands on him, and the employee said, simply, Do it. 7:14 AM - 4 Mar 2017 Anybody know if the hospital employee is available? Wow, guy is dumber than Foster.
cd1 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Wow, guy is dumber than Foster. Maybe the guy did not want to work in a Hospital anymore - $$$$$$$
jeffismagic Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) Maybe the guy did not want to work in a Hospital anymore - $$$$$$$ Can't collect money if you're dead. Edited March 4, 2017 by jeffismagic
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