WWE/Professional Wrestling

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, The Senator said:

 

I know nothing about that so, if you say it’s so, I can’t refute you.

 

I just remember when ‘Pro Wrestling’ was a lot more fun...

 

 

She was certainly a key player in the game... but they had a PPV named after her last year and had to change the name due to backlash because of what I mentioned

 

She apparently kept all her female wrestler tied into debt so they had to keep working for her

[Fr. Jerk]

14 hours ago, Koko78 said:

 

Idiots.

 

Don't hate, they earned their 50 bucks the hard way.

[Fr. Jerk]

Also, I need a late pass but I'm loving GLOW on Netflix. Currently binge watching. 

[Koko78]

40 minutes ago, The Jerk said:

 

Don't hate, they earned their 50 bucks the hard way.

 

True, but they're still idiots for:

 

1.) Using two tables instead of one;

2.) Not aligning the tables properly for the spot; and

3.) The guy throwing the dude not paying attention to where he was throwing him.

[Fr. Jerk]

On 4/15/2019 at 8:48 AM, Koko78 said:

 

True, but they're still idiots for:

 

1.) Using two tables instead of one;

2.) Not aligning the tables properly for the spot; and

3.) The guy throwing the dude not paying attention to where he was throwing him.

 

The best part is I have no idea who they are and despite one of them almost dying I still don't care. 

 

Also, Luke Harper has requested his release. 

[Bray Wyatt]

31 minutes ago, The Jerk said:

 

The best part is I have no idea who they are and despite one of them almost dying I still don't care. 

 

Also, Luke Harper has requested his release. 

 

I wish WWE gave Harper more of a push, but I think its smart for him to request his release. They havent had anything for him since he came back from injury and the guy is amazing in ring. I am hoping he goes to AEW so I will still be able to see him on TV

[Koko78]

It always baffles me when wrestlers complain that "creative has nothing for [them]."

 

Why does "creative" have a ***** job, if they can't write some kind of halfassed storyline for the mid- and low-card wrestlers?

[Fr. Jerk]

5 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

I wish WWE gave Harper more of a push, but I think its smart for him to request his release. They havent had anything for him since he came back from injury and the guy is amazing in ring. I am hoping he goes to AEW so I will still be able to see him on TV

 

They definitely should have done more with him. Hopefully he goes to AEW but at the very least he should pop back up on the local circuit here in Rochester.

[TBBills Fan]

On 4/17/2019 at 9:13 AM, Koko78 said:

It always baffles me when wrestlers complain that "creative has nothing for [them]."

 

Why does "creative" have a ***** job, if they can't write some kind of halfassed storyline for the mid- and low-card wrestlers?

 

politics, they cant pitch ideas and if vince doesnt dream it he kills it

 

see the viking experience...

 

god I really do try to get back into it but the stories are bad....its reminding me of the last decade of Bills Front office management

[apuszczalowski]

1 hour ago, TBBills Fan said:

 

politics, they cant pitch ideas and if vince doesnt dream it he kills it

 

see the viking experience...

 

god I really do try to get back into it but the stories are bad....its reminding me of the last decade of Bills Front office management

It's sad, but the WWE story line seem to be way better then Impact. While flipping through the channels I stopped o  it for 5 minutes and caught some poorly scripted and filmed Sacrifice Zombie/Vampire scene where they supposedly killed a female wrestler. No wrestling, just poorly acted (worse then a 'B rated' movie) skit

[Fr. Jerk]

Impact needs to be put out to pasture. 

[Logic]

I just wanted to chime in and say, apropos of nothing, that I really like the NXT product as of late. Specifically, the Takeover: New York event was excellent. The Gargano vs Cole match was OUTSTANDING. Ditto the tag title match and the UK Title match.

I'm an old school wrestling fan. I spend an inordinate amount of time watching old WCW and WWF on the WWE Network. I also spend an inordinate amount of time watching shoot interviews, reading books about wrestling, and reading wrestlecrap.com rants and the like. So to an extent, I'm still kind of wrestling obsessed...I just happen to be obsessed with the wrestling I watched when I grew up. I only VERY CASUALLY follow today's WWE product. I know most of the names and profiles, and I tune into the "Big 3" PPVs ever year. Aside from that, I fade in and out. I just don't care the way I used to.

I will say this, though: The period between, say, 2002 and 2012 was a lost decade for me, as far as WWE goes. That whole Cena/Orton/Batista era is just a snooze-fest for me. Triple H taking over and instituting NXT was the best thing that could've possibly happened to WWE. He basically saved it completely and now has it to where it's about as good a product as it's ever been. He FINALLY talked McMahon out of avoiding indie and ROH and NJPW guys like the plague. They also rightly recognized that there's a huge market for actual quality work rate wrestling. Now they poach anyone worth poaching, and they have the deep, awesome roster to show for it. Raw, Smackdown, NXT, NXT UK, 205 Live, etc, etc....They're in a very strong place going forward.

Getting back to my original comment, I find the NXT matches and characters to be VASTLY more entertaining than the current main roster product. My current favorites (from all rosters) are probably Adam Cole (Bay Bay!), Aleister Black, Shinsuke Nakamura, Daniel Bryan, Sami Zayn, Ricochet, and Johnny Gargano. I'm a big work rate guy. 

[Bills4everNY]

5 hours ago, Logic said:

I just wanted to chime in and say, apropos of nothing, that I really like the NXT product as of late. Specifically, the Takeover: New York event was excellent. The Gargano vs Cole match was OUTSTANDING. Ditto the tag title match and the UK Title match.

I'm an old school wrestling fan. I spend an inordinate amount of time watching old WCW and WWF on the WWE Network. I also spend an inordinate amount of time watching shoot interviews, reading books about wrestling, and reading wrestlecrap.com rants and the like. So to an extent, I'm still kind of wrestling obsessed...I just happen to be obsessed with the wrestling I watched when I grew up. I only VERY CASUALLY follow today's WWE product. I know most of the names and profiles, and I tune into the "Big 3" PPVs ever year. Aside from that, I fade in and out. I just don't care the way I used to.

I will say this, though: The period between, say, 2002 and 2012 was a lost decade for me, as far as WWE goes. That whole Cena/Orton/Batista era is just a snooze-fest for me. Triple H taking over and instituting NXT was the best thing that could've possibly happened to WWE. He basically saved it completely and now has it to where it's about as good a product as it's ever been. He FINALLY talked McMahon out of avoiding indie and ROH and NJPW guys like the plague. They also rightly recognized that there's a huge market for actual quality work rate wrestling. Now they poach anyone worth poaching, and they have the deep, awesome roster to show for it. Raw, Smackdown, NXT, NXT UK, 205 Live, etc, etc....They're in a very strong place going forward.

Getting back to my original comment, I find the NXT matches and characters to be VASTLY more entertaining than the current main roster product. My current favorites (from all rosters) are probably Adam Cole (Bay Bay!), Aleister Black, Shinsuke Nakamura, Daniel Bryan, Sami Zayn, Ricochet, and Johnny Gargano. I'm a big work rate guy. 

My favorite current WWE wrestlers are Kevin Owens, Ricochet, Finn Balor,  Asuka, Liv Morgan and Becky Lynch.

[njbuff]

5 hours ago, Logic said:

I just wanted to chime in and say, apropos of nothing, that I really like the NXT product as of late. Specifically, the Takeover: New York event was excellent. The Gargano vs Cole match was OUTSTANDING. Ditto the tag title match and the UK Title match.

I'm an old school wrestling fan. I spend an inordinate amount of time watching old WCW and WWF on the WWE Network. I also spend an inordinate amount of time watching shoot interviews, reading books about wrestling, and reading wrestlecrap.com rants and the like. So to an extent, I'm still kind of wrestling obsessed...I just happen to be obsessed with the wrestling I watched when I grew up. I only VERY CASUALLY follow today's WWE product. I know most of the names and profiles, and I tune into the "Big 3" PPVs ever year. Aside from that, I fade in and out. I just don't care the way I used to.

I will say this, though: The period between, say, 2002 and 2012 was a lost decade for me, as far as WWE goes. That whole Cena/Orton/Batista era is just a snooze-fest for me. Triple H taking over and instituting NXT was the best thing that could've possibly happened to WWE. He basically saved it completely and now has it to where it's about as good a product as it's ever been. He FINALLY talked McMahon out of avoiding indie and ROH and NJPW guys like the plague. They also rightly recognized that there's a huge market for actual quality work rate wrestling. Now they poach anyone worth poaching, and they have the deep, awesome roster to show for it. Raw, Smackdown, NXT, NXT UK, 205 Live, etc, etc....They're in a very strong place going forward.

Getting back to my original comment, I find the NXT matches and characters to be VASTLY more entertaining than the current main roster product. My current favorites (from all rosters) are probably Adam Cole (Bay Bay!), Aleister Black, Shinsuke Nakamura, Daniel Bryan, Sami Zayn, Ricochet, and Johnny Gargano. I'm a big work rate guy. 

 

WWE completely blows.

 

No edge to the product whatsoever.

 

Just look at wrestling from 1997-2001 to today's garbage......... and it's no wonder that millions of wrestling fans have checked out from the WWE.

 

Monday Night Raw went from must see TV to must miss TV. Sad.

[Logic]

1 hour ago, njbuff said:

 

WWE completely blows.

 

No edge to the product whatsoever.

 

Just look at wrestling from 1997-2001 to today's garbage......... and it's no wonder that millions of wrestling fans have checked out from the WWE.

 

Monday Night Raw went from must see TV to must miss TV. Sad.

Meh. 

The lack of competition is what "killed" wrestling, if you want to look at it that way. In the years after WCW died, Vince had no competition, and his product got stale. It was only the rise in popularity of ROH, TNA, Chikara, Lucha Underground, etc (i.e. new legitimate competition) that has begun to re-invigorate the product.

The business is and always has been cyclical. It has boom periods and down periods. The late 80s under Hulk Hogan were obviously a boom period, then the WWE (then WWF) hit a lull for a long time. The steroid scandal, guys like Hulk and Macho Man leaving, etc, had Vince McMahon almost to the point of bankruptcy. Then the product hit the biggest boom its ever seen in the late 90s with the Monday Night Wars and Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock. Since the end of that boom, wrestling hasn't quite reached the same highs in popular culture. On the other hand, it's definitely not dying a death or anything. If you tune into Wrestlemania in any given year, you see them selling out football stadiums, with 80,000 fans in attendance. They're an international product and a multi-BILLION dollar industry, complete with their own streaming platform and crossover starts like John Cena and Dave Batista.

Is it what it once was? No. I agree with you there. But the business is cyclical, and it's doing just fine as it is. 

[Koko78]

I'm not sure what was the more interesting revelation last night, Bobby Robert Roode's pornstache or Bray Wyatt's new gimmick.

[Mr Wild]

6 hours ago, Koko78 said:

I'm not sure what was the more interesting revelation last night, Bobby Robert Roode's pornstache or Bray Wyatt's new gimmick.

I have to go with Bray

 

Nothing better then hearing children clap for being barbarically punished

Edited April 23, 2019 by Mr Wild

[BillsPride12]

4 minutes ago, Mr Wild said:

I have to go with Bray

 

W...T....F.....reminds me of an early 90's WWF Gimmick

[Bray Wyatt]

12 hours ago, Mr Wild said:

I have to go with Bray

 

Nothing better then hearing children clap for being barbarically punished

 

I’d say I have to agree ?

18 hours ago, Koko78 said:

I'm not sure what was the more interesting revelation last night, Bobby Robert Roode's pornstache or Bray Wyatt's new gimmick.

 I bet you can guess which one I like!

[Koko78]

1 hour ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 I bet you can guess which one I like!

 

The pornstache is GLORIOUS, isn't it?