Are there any racist institutions? How and why.

[TakeYouToTasker]

1 hour ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said:

Update.

 

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/11/08/a-black-student-wrote-those-racist-messages-that-shook-the-air-force-academy/?utm_term=.0cb08a91cc6b

As has been, quite frequently, the case in these scenarios lately.

 

When you attempt to implement a philosophy in which victimhood confers power, don't be surprised when people start to manufacture victimhood.

[Wacka]

On 10/9/2017 at 9:08 AM, Tiberius said:

Not in the USAF!

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?ebc=ANyPxKoSBbL2DHrJlWKqzryEDe7TsbKdGbqjQ8TuohmBy6j_WtSnt7mWnRDPM7imdLjtqXphKYBad7wqCj3y7iEJxIakMqQSqg&v=JbUnPeWaFr8

 

 

Lt. Gen. Jay Silveria had an important message for U.S. Air Force Academy cadets at a moment of crisis.

 

Five black cadet candidates at the academy’s preparatory school in Colorado Springs had found racial slurs written on the message boards on their doors.

 

Silveria, who took over as the school’s superintendent in August, urged cadets to reach for their phones.

 

“I want you to videotape this so you have it, so you can use it — so that we all have the moral courage together,” he said, surrounded by 1,500 of the academy’s faculty, administrators and athletic coaches.

 

“If you can’t treat someone with dignity and respect, get out.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/09/29/meet-the-air-force-general-who-delivered-a-powerful-lesson-in-leadership/?utm_term=.2e93875a5616

 

Get out!

Surprise, surprise , surprise!  Looks like he did get out, either by being expelled or quitting.

Edited November 9, 2017 by Wacka

[boyst]

1 hour ago, Wacka said:

Surprise, surprise , surprise!  Looks like he did get out, either by being expelled or quitting.

he was never a student.  read the article, hoss.

[Paulus]

The USMC.... one guy somewhere said, "It is the most racist and the least racist organization on the face of the Earth."

 

One can point to schools, arguing affirmative action was a positive injury... Like some guy did somewhere.

[TakeYouToTasker]

4 hours ago, Paulus said:

The USMC.... one guy somewhere said, "It is the most racist and the least racist organization on the face of the Earth."

 

One can point to schools, arguing affirmative action was a positive injury... Like some guy did somewhere.

Clarence Thomas makes a very compelling argument that affirmative action is injurious to those intended to benefit from it.

[B-Man]

Are there any racist institutions?

 

 

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[Juror#8]

There are likely small local municipalities that have institutionally countenanced individual's racist behavior. Those understandings are so pervasive within that organization that they color the way they operate in their official capacity. In other words ... multi-generational bias that's made its way into the administrative or procedural operation of some officialized (read: "governmental") happening. 

 

It's not some modal thing, but it's just how **** flows behaviorally in that context of workplace homogeneity. And, owing to size (read: "small") and relative weights of individual influence, racism becomes, by extension, the acceptable institutional practice. 

 

I'm assuming that by "institutionalized" you're referring to official organizations, operating under the color of authority, countenancing racist practices as opposed to just a group of drunk cats, loosely affiliated, calling folks racial epithets. 

 

This isn't an indictment of anyone. It's equally appicable in the context of Charm City as it is in small sundowner towns in the Deep South. 

 

Im too lazy and drunk to read this whole thread. What does my nigga Boyst say on this shiznit?

 

 

Edited December 16, 2017 by Juror#8

[3rdnlng]

19 minutes ago, Juror#8 said:

There are likely small local municipalities that have institutionally countenanced individual's racist behavior. Those understandings are so pervasive within that organization that they color the way they operate in their official capacity. In other words ... multi-generational bias that's made its way into the administrative or procedural operation of some officialized (read: "governmental") happening. 

 

It's not some modal thing, but it's just how **** flows behaviorally in that context of workplace homogeneity. And, owing to size (read: "small") and relative weights of individual influence, racism becomes, by extension, the acceptable institutional practice. 

 

I'm assuming that by "institutionalized" you're referring to official organizations, operating under the color of authority, countenancing racist practices as opposed to just a group of drunk cats, loosely affiliated, calling folks racial epithets. 

 

This isn't an indictment of anyone. It's equally appicable in the context of Charm City as it is in small sundowner towns in the Deep South. 

 

Im too lazy and drunk to read this whole thread. What does my nigga Boyst say on this shiznit?

 

 

Ever since he bought some sheep he's been sticking pretty close to home.

[boyst]

52 minutes ago, Juror#8 said:

There are likely small local municipalities that have institutionally countenanced individual's racist behavior. Those understandings are so pervasive within that organization that they color the way they operate in their official capacity. In other words ... multi-generational bias that's made its way into the administrative or procedural operation of some officialized (read: "governmental") happening. 

 

It's not some modal thing, but it's just how **** flows behaviorally in that context of workplace homogeneity. And, owing to size (read: "small") and relative weights of individual influence, racism becomes, by extension, the acceptable institutional practice. 

 

I'm assuming that by "institutionalized" you're referring to official organizations, operating under the color of authority, countenancing racist practices as opposed to just a group of drunk cats, loosely affiliated, calling folks racial epithets. 

 

This isn't an indictment of anyone. It's equally appicable in the context of Charm City as it is in small sundowner towns in the Deep South. 

 

Im too lazy and drunk to read this whole thread. What does my nigga Boyst say on this shiznit?

 

 

hard to refute what you're saying other than to simply remove the premise that it is all based off of racism.

 

often times municipalities breed their own culture and stick to it; my county is a dry county, for example in a state that until recently did not serve alcohol on sundays before 12pm.  the county refuses businesses that compete with its own local businesses (primarily barbeque restaurants).  the county limited itself in business and was persuaded by the furniture industry to keep competition low which kept wages and opportunity down.  now its a ghost town wrought with despair looking for a new identity with millions of sq footage in buildings that are collapsing on themselves that the city is paying millions of their own money to demolish.  our leaders here - protected the interests of themselves and  the short sited future of the county which is now the 2nd lowest income county in the state and 2nd lowest in wage average.

 

i'm not drunk, just 102F temperature as i battle some sort of respiratory ****. 

 

being a small town city wrapped up in its own lore (for lack of better words) does not entitle it to be deemed racist.  then again, it could be considered accidentally racist if one truly believes that one could be such a thing.

 

but, as a black man to my fellow black man, i must say... word to your mother.

[westerndecline]

Dont feel like writing a paper here going through all the intricacies of institutional and passed down racism or the nature of systemic racism

 

Is the country inherently within its institutional structure racist?

 

Absolutely not.

 

Is there still pockets of in your face racism in detroit boston or Charleston?

 

Yeah a little.

 

Does anything stop a normal black dude from having a prosperous good life?

 

No

 

 

Back enough sjw or black panther asshats into a corner and its always about reparations...

 

WHICH IS A REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM

Edited December 17, 2017 by westerndecline

[keepthefaith]

I'd say virtually all organizations run by far lefties have racist tendancies. 

[westerndecline]

3 hours ago, keepthefaith said:

I'd say virtually all organizations run by far lefties have racist tendancies. 

Its anti- working class too imo

[Juror#8]

On December 16, 2017 at 7:02 PM, 3rdnlng said:

Ever since he bought some sheep he's been sticking pretty close to home.

 

Bro. Wow. Where ya been? Pot calling the kettle black I know but still ...I hadn't seen a post from you in a grip.

 

Hope you're doing well my friend. 

On December 16, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Boyst62 said:

hard to refute what you're saying other than to simply remove the premise that it is all based off of racism.

 

often times municipalities breed their own culture and stick to it; my county is a dry county, for example in a state that until recently did not serve alcohol on sundays before 12pm.  the county refuses businesses that compete with its own local businesses (primarily barbeque restaurants).  the county limited itself in business and was persuaded by the furniture industry to keep competition low which kept wages and opportunity down.  now its a ghost town wrought with despair looking for a new identity with millions of sq footage in buildings that are collapsing on themselves that the city is paying millions of their own money to demolish.  our leaders here - protected the interests of themselves and  the short sited future of the county which is now the 2nd lowest income county in the state and 2nd lowest in wage average.

 

i'm not drunk, just 102F temperature as i battle some sort of respiratory ****. 

 

being a small town city wrapped up in its own lore (for lack of better words) does not entitle it to be deemed racist.  then again, it could be considered accidentally racist if one truly believes that one could be such a thing.

 

but, as a black man to my fellow black man, i must say... word to your mother.

 

I see your point. I'm more so saying that there are little towns down south or even big towns in urban areas that have proceduralized individual intolerance. You won't see my black ass in certain little towns in Mississippi just like there are certain areas of Detroit or Baltimore that you wouldn't go and expect to be treated even-handedly vis a vis the locals in a situation where law enforcement needed to, let's just say, intercede. 

 

To to me that's all institutionalized racism. 

Edited December 18, 2017 by Juror#8

[3rdnlng]

25 minutes ago, Juror#8 said:

 

Bro. Wow. Where ya been? Pot calling the kettle black I know but still ...I hadn't seen a post from you in a grip.

 

Hope you're doing well my friend. 

 

I see your point. I'm more so saying that there are little towns down south or even big towns in urban areas that have proceduralized individual intolerance. You won't see my black ass in certain little towns in Mississippi just like there are certain areas of Detroit or Baltimore that you wouldn't go and expect to be treated even-handedly vis a vis the locals in a situation where law enforcement needed to, let's just say, intercede. 

 

To to me that's all institutionalized racism. 

Hey. Due to some technical difficulties I couldn't sign in as 3rd but was posting as grinreaper. When SDS redid things here I was able to get my identity back. Good to see you here too. Don't be a stranger!

[boyst]

4 hours ago, Juror#8 said:

 

Bro. Wow. Where ya been? Pot calling the kettle black I know but still ...I hadn't seen a post from you in a grip.

 

Hope you're doing well my friend. 

 

I see your point. I'm more so saying that there are little towns down south or even big towns in urban areas that have proceduralized individual intolerance. You won't see my black ass in certain little towns in Mississippi just like there are certain areas of Detroit or Baltimore that you wouldn't go and expect to be treated even-handedly vis a vis the locals in a situation where law enforcement needed to, let's just say, intercede. 

 

To to me that's all institutionalized racism. 

Are those like the white bitches area?  Cuz them crackers don't like me I'm straight all ballin black boy pop your ass with a gat drop back and launch 3's in you fool.

 

Federal hill, Sterling heights, yeah. Them places ain't want none of this black boi.

 

Those towns are all over, though, as you mentioned. It's not a white vs black thing or white vs anyone thing. It's a cultural habitat where you fit in or you don't. 

[3rdnlng]

17 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

Are those like the white bitches area?  Cuz them crackers don't like me I'm straight all ballin black boy pop your ass with a gat drop back and launch 3's in you fool.

 

Federal hill, Sterling heights, yeah. Them places ain't want none of this black boi.

 

Those towns are all over, though, as you mentioned. It's not a white vs black thing or white vs anyone thing. It's a cultural habitat where you fit in or you don't. 

Your Midnight Cowboy outfit won't fly in Camden.

[boyst]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

Your Midnight Cowboy outfit won't fly in Camden.

It does it Florida, my pink cowboy outfit and matching hat.   I fit in here.

[LeviF]

Replying to say !@#$ yeah Juror's back.  Hope everything's well.

[Juror#8]

On December 19, 2017 at 8:49 AM, LeviF91 said:

Replying to say !@#$ yeah Juror's back.  Hope everything's well.

 

What's up Levi. Hope you're well brother. Happy Holidays to you and yours. 

[Juror#8]

On December 18, 2017 at 10:15 PM, Boyst62 said:

Are those like the white bitches area?  Cuz them crackers don't like me I'm straight all ballin black boy pop your ass with a gat drop back and launch 3's in you fool.

 

Federal hill, Sterling heights, yeah. Them places ain't want none of this black boi.

 

Those towns are all over, though, as you mentioned. It's not a white vs black thing or white vs anyone thing. It's a cultural habitat where you fit in or you don't. 

 

 

Your first paragraph read like a twenty year old Master P song. 

 

I needed that tonight, bro. 

 

Yep, they are all over. The common denominator is indeed cultural differences - but they admit themselves through racial distinction. 

 

And that is not something that is uniquely white or uniquely black. There are racist institutions in the south just as they are present in the majority black urban megatropolis'. 

 

Racism, to the extent that it exists, does so for two reasons 

 

1. Because we historically see racial archetypes largely through stereotypical lenses and we psychologically separate out individuals, with whom we interact and like, as the exception to those stereotypes. 

 

To you, Boyst, brothers in the aggregate might always be what you remember from an nwa video - failures of the broken black family's ability to inculcate a sense of moral responsibility into their progeny and the strongest evidence yet for a slam dunk Charles Murray acquittal. 

 

Maybe.

 

If I'm in the south and I see a white cat with leaves and **** on his jacket, sporting a mullet, wrangler jeans, and a fish hook on his hat, I might think he's trying to get his James Byrd on, 

 

Maybe.

 

It's along the margins of those "maybes" where thinkings can be changed. 

 

Maybe. 

 

2. Most people who haven't had exposure to anything different continue to not have enough exposure to anything different in order that they might meaningfully care to change or challenge their own existing paradigms. That leaves exposure to different groups in the care of celebrity personalities and the ever-present-football-player-rapists. 

 

i see both of those changing because that outmoded thinking is being outpaced by the ubiquitousness of social media. I see it being a couple of generations away. 

 

Maybe. 

 

Anyway, I went to to an Ivy League graduate school. 

 

It it doesn't matter which one. 

 

What does matter is that, (other than my pale skin brothers) it was me, another brother,  few sisters, and a rack of Asians there in the early 2000s. 

 

Anyway, I was asked by an L1 that I was mentoring whether or not I felt a unique pressure to perform well in order to avoid the appearance that I was there to fill out a quota. 

 

"Bruh ... I'm 'order of the [mother!@#$ing] coif.' What's this pressure of which you speak?"

 

Then I was asked when I was a student panelist discussing the Bakke decision whether or not I felt that the African-American experience in higher education was adversely impacted or otherwise trivialized by the reality of an admissions architecture that wasn't entirely meritocratic. 

 

"Sister girl, I'm in the 170+ club, get the fack outta my face with that dumb ****." 

 

The point?

 

We all see too much color. 

 

Its even a underlying theme in some of the qb posts on the main board. 

 

We rely too much on soft stereotypes in how we view people. 

 

And then we qualify people based on those. 

 

You do. 

 

I do. 

 

We all do. 

 

When we're ready to stop that ****, we can move on to that colorless society that people blab on about.

Edited December 21, 2017 by Juror#8