jrober38 Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 If we cut Taylor and the Jets pick him up, that may open the gates for us to draft Trubisky. One can only dream. Taylor should go to Cleveland. With the number of draft picks they have and over $100 mil in cap space, he could turn them around really quickly.
Bill_with_it Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 So this really means that the media have no idea and keep throwing crap against a wall that doesn't stick. How frustrating that must be for them. This is exactly it. They believe that since no one has said from the fo that they are or are not committed to TT that that means they are flip flopping. When in reality I think that they are still working the process.
transient Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 PFF's reporting that Rotoworld's reporting that Vic's reporting that Shefter's reporting that La'Conjectura's reporting that Tyrod Taylor may or may not be a Bill come March 11, and that sources say there's a 50/50 chance that this information is correct and a 100% chance that it's unverified. https://youtu.be/zjedLeVGcfE?t=10
FreddieJizzle22 Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 Taylor should go to Cleveland. With the number of draft picks they have and over $100 mil in cap space, he could turn them around really quickly. I've missed you.
Maury Ballstein Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 Carr and Ben, more like Carr and Bell pantsed the Ryan Brothers defense. Ummm Tyrod had 70 yards vs Pitt thru 3 qtrs and was a 3 and out machine vs a cellar dwelling Oak D Don't give him a pass in the name of D please. He was gaaaaaarbage.
Bill_with_it Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 Our OL is awesome dude. Scoring offenses have next to nothing to do with defenses. TT is Kaep. Put them side by side. It's uncanny. What uncanny is how they are two polar opposite qbs. One makes greatdecisions with the football, consumate proffesional and leader, while the other is a terrible decision maker, lacks any leadership, and isnt a consumate professional. Ummm Tyrod had 70 yards vs Pitt thru 3 qtrs and was a 3 and out machine vs a cellar dwelling Oak D Don't give him a pass in the name of D please. He was gaaaaaarbage. 15 point lead on oakland given up by our inglorious defense. Defense coundnt stop over pursuing the only offensive weapont pittsburg had that day. While Tyrod can and needs to improve relative to the defense it's marginal.
frostbitmic Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 Ummm Tyrod had 70 yards vs Pitt thru 3 qtrs and was a 3 and out machine vs a cellar dwelling Oak D Don't give him a pass in the name of D please. He was gaaaaaarbage. He also led the offense to a top 10 in points scored which is what it's all about. The biggest problem on last years team was the defense that was misplayed by the genius Rex Ryan. Taylor is far from perfect but he's better than anyone presently on the team, anybody who is a free agent and better, this year anyway, than any other QB in the 2017 draft.
simpleman Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) Not popular perhaps, but there may be more practical considerations that are perfectly reasonable from a long range perspective. What's asinine to you is of little relevance to th This mentality is asinine. Why can't people understand the concept of finding a franchise guy while keeping Tyrod here for the next couple years and giving your team an opportunity to win football games within those next two years? Because Cap room? !@#$ing asinine. Just because you can not comprehend the ramifications of building and maintaining a winning team due to cap limitations does not make it asinine. Just because someone can not deal with the intricacies of the game of chess does not make it an asinine game. Just a game that they don't have the patience or interest in bothering to try to learn, comprehend or play. Edited March 3, 2017 by simpleman
cd1 Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 Cut him, cut McCoy, cut Kyle, trade Watkins and tank for Darnold. Without those four guys this team isn't winning more than 3 games next year. How does this work as a business model? The Bills are in business to make $$$$$$. What are the riskes involved in tanking a team that has held untold numbers of it's fans on by a fine thread woven only of hope. A team now absent of every good player and little HOPE of winning will most likely have a lot of empty seats in the stands and not many will want to spend hard earned $$$ in the fan shop. Income would plummet! Fans, many now set free from the purgatory that was Bills Fandom, would not likely want to return after a year or two of freedom. For THIS TEAM tanking could mean coming back like an expansion team. Vitually fanless.
ndirish1978 Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 He also led the offense to a top 10 in points scored which is what it's all about. The biggest problem on last years team was the defense that was misplayed by the genius Rex Ryan. Taylor is far from perfect but he's better than anyone presently on the team, anybody who is a free agent and better, this year anyway, than any other QB in the 2017 draft. This is a logical fallacy. This team was top 10 in points scored despite Taylor. With a competent passer at QB we could have been significantly better. If you want to thank someone for that stat, thank McCoy
jeffismagic Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 How does this work as a business model? The Bills are in business to make $$$$$$. What are the riskes involved in tanking a team that has held untold numbers of it's fans on by a fine thread woven only of hope. A team now absent of every good player and little HOPE of winning will most likely have a lot of empty seats in the stands and not many will want to spend hard earned $$$ in the fan shop. Income would plummet! Fans, many now set free from the purgatory that was Bills Fandom, would not likely want to return after a year or two of freedom. For THIS TEAM tanking could mean coming back like an expansion team. Vitually fanless. You don't need much to sell hope in Buffalo. Rex Ryan was a failed coach who got record season ticket sales. I would draft Chad Kelly in the 6th round and sell people on Cardale vs Chad. $$$$
jrober38 Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) How does this work as a business model? The Bills are in business to make $$$$$$. What are the riskes involved in tanking a team that has held untold numbers of it's fans on by a fine thread woven only of hope. A team now absent of every good player and little HOPE of winning will most likely have a lot of empty seats in the stands and not many will want to spend hard earned $$$ in the fan shop. Income would plummet! Fans, many now set free from the purgatory that was Bills Fandom, would not likely want to return after a year or two of freedom. For THIS TEAM tanking could mean coming back like an expansion team. Vitually fanless. I don't think it was a problem for the Sabres. And no, income wouldn't "plummet" because the vast majority of the franchise's income comes from guaranteed TV contracts. If Bills' management comes out and says, "We're rebuilding. Our plan is to be really bad for 2-3 years in our quest to draft an elite blue chip QB prospect, as well as other blue chip prospects who we can build around. We feel that will put us in the best position to be successful in 3 years, 5 years and 10 years," If they say that, I don't see why the fans wouldn't sign up considering that they signed up when the Sabres did the exact same thing. IMO the Bills' biggest problem has been their lack of a plan. They always seem to be chasing their tail and the result has been nothing but mediocrity. If they dedicate to a plan of being bad in the short term to be really good in the long term, and show they have a true plan, the fans should be receptive. Edited March 3, 2017 by jrober38
sven233 Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 If we cut Taylor and the Jets pick him up, that may open the gates for us to draft Trubisky. One can only dream. I don't think the Jets have any plans on drafting Trubisky. They are clearly tanking for the #1 pick next season in order to get Sam Darnold. They are doing exactly what we should be doing this season.......putting themselves in the prime position a year from now.
cd1 Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) I don't think it was a problem for the Sabres. And no, income wouldn't "plummet" because the vast majority of the franchise's income comes from guaranteed TV contracts. If Bills' management comes out and says, "We're rebuilding. Our plan is to be really bad for 2-3 years in our quest to draft an elite blue chip QB prospect, as well as other blue chip prospects who we can build around. We feel that will put us in the best position to be successful in 3 years, 5 years and 10 years," If they say that, I don't see why the fans wouldn't sign up considering that they signed up when the Sabres did the exact same thing. IMO the Bills' biggest problem has been their lack of a plan. They always seem to be chasing their tail and the result has been nothing but mediocrity. If they dedicate to a plan of being bad in the short term to be really good in the long term, and show they have a true plan, the fans should be receptive. Has any team ever really came out and announced that they were tanking the season? PLUS - Regarding the PLAN - For many years of the drought, Ralph Wilson's plan was to keep the team on life support until it was passed down and eventually sold - so there was THAT PLAN. NOW - We have new owners who are OWNERS but not neccessarily FOOTBALL PEOPLE. Plan = Find someone to make plan. What the Bills REALLY NEED is a PLAN MAKER then... Edited March 3, 2017 by cd1
Wayne Arnold Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 I would draft Chad Kelly in the 6th round and sell people on Cardale vs Chad. $$$$ Russ Brandon - is that you?!
Drunkard Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 If they cut Taylor loose this franchise is f'd. I've only actively rooted against the Bills for one season in my life and that was when they cut Flutie in favor of Rob Johnson. If they cut Taylor without a legitimate upgrade then at least I won't have to negotiate with Directv again for Sunday ticket next season.
jeffismagic Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 Russ Brandon - is that you?! Hey, these ideas write themselves!
K-9 Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 He also led the offense to a top 10 in points scored which is what it's all about. The biggest problem on last years team was the defense that was misplayed by the genius Rex Ryan. Taylor is far from perfect but he's better than anyone presently on the team, anybody who is a free agent and better, this year anyway, than any other QB in the 2017 draft. No doubt TT is better than what's currently available. How much better? How many more wins, concretely, does TT get us, right now? We can point to the myriad other problems like the defense, injuries, etc., that all contributed to our failures and that is all legitimate to consider. But it's impossible to quantify in any real meaningful way at the moment and it doesn't excuse what TT has put on tape. It's perfectly legitimate to analyze TT's play on its own merits and determine he just isn't enough of a difference maker on his own to justify the time and money investment to keep him if you think there would be minimal gain by doing so. Especially if you've targeted other positions that might be greatly improved otherwise.
ndirish1978 Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 You don't need much to sell hope in Buffalo. Rex Ryan was a failed coach who got record season ticket sales. I would draft Chad Kelly in the 6th round and sell people on Cardale vs Chad. $$$$ ABSOLUTELY. Fans here showed up to watch Jeff Tuel and Thad Lewis start for this team. Throwing away a 6th rounder on Chad would be THE thing to sell tickets and distract from the fact this year is about getting difference-makers where we can and trying to set ourselves up for long-term success.
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