BobbyC81 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Well Rodgers was drafted in the 20s of the first round - so technically being middle of the pack would certainly allow us to draft Rodgers. : )  You have to identify your guy and pull the trigger  As was Dan Marino.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Â Quarterbacks aren't hard to find. Great QBs are hard to find. Â For some(it should be for everyone), the goal isn't to just win 10-11 games and sneak into the playoffs. It's to win championships. The question then becomes, can the Bills win a championship or championships with TT at QB? Just for reference, 5 of the 8 divisions were won by teams with 10-11 wins or less this year.
hemma Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 I interpret 'still evaluating Taylor' as meaning that they are trying to negotiate a revised contract.
Wayne Cubed Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Just for reference, 5 of the 8 divisions were won by teams with 10-11 wins or less this year. And the two teams in the Super Bowls records where? Â What about 2015? What about 2014? What about 2013?
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 And the two teams in the Super Bowls records where? Â What about 2015? What about 2014? What about 2013? If you want to look feel free. But let's not pretend that winning your division is "sneaking into the playoffs"
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Did a new daily report come out from Vic yet? I'm expecting it to be Bills leaning toward bringing Tyrod back!
Thurman#1 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) Â My initial reaction to this is "Stop....Just Stop". (not to you, Yolo, but to Carruci et al). Â I've said before, Bills aren't going to make their QB decision in a vacuum unless the plan is to tank. From other players who are staying/trying to be signed I don't think the Bills plan is to tank the season (eg Kyle Williams). So the question is who else is available at QB they think they can sign? And how do they think Taylor compares to whoever that is? Â Expect to see an increasing flurry of yes/no/maybe prognosticatios as March 11th approaches. Â Â Â That isn't the question. It is one of several questions. Plural. Â One of the other main questions is whether it makes sense to pay Tyrod Taylor the amount he will receive based on his contract as it is now written. Â Another would be whether Tyrod's group is willing to work on changing the parts of the contract that the Bills actually have problems with. So far they haven't, and there's been no grounds for agreement from what we've heard. Perhaps one side will make some concessions as deadlines near. Edited March 4, 2017 by Thurman#1
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Driving around to meet clients and I heard the John Murphy show. They had Greg Cossel explaining why Tyrod is not good enough. If you listen to this show every so often they have been preparing the fans for what's next. Â http://media.wgr550.com/a/118602534/3-3-nfl-films-greg-cossel-on-the-john-murphy-show.htm Cool! Man I hope you're right and that is a sign of what's to come.
Thurman#1 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 I comprehend it. Â Some don't want Tyrod to take up that much cap space because they don't think he's that good and he's not a franchise QB. Â I'm saying his cap number will not be a big deal in a year when the cap increases again and they can win with him in my opinion. Â Â You're right that the cap number isn't bad this year. Â But cap number this year is simply not the problem. The very high guarantee is the problem, that and the front-loaded nature of the contract. From what we've seen from each side, I'd guess the negotiations, at least unless somebody eventually backs down, go like this: Â OBD: Look, the cap numbers aren't the problem. The problem is the front-loaded nature of the contract and the guarantee ... if we keep him for one year it would cost us $30.75 mill and if we keep him for two it would cost us $40.5 mill and those numbers just don't work for us. Â Tyrod's negotiator: We'd be willing to change things so the cap numbers go down for you. Â OBD: Um, I said the cap numbers are NOT the problem, the problem is the front-loaded deal. Â Tyrod's negotiator: I hear you. We are totally willing to work with you on making the cap numbers more reasonable for you. What we're not willing to do i accept less up front. Â OBD: So you aren't willing to address our concerns. Again, we don't care about the cap numbers. Â Tyrod's negotiator: Yeah, we're completely willing to be fluid on those cap numbers. Â OBD: Uhhhhhhhhhhh.
jrober38 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) Â Â You're right that the cap number isn't bad this year. Â But cap number this year is simply not the problem. The very high guarantee is the problem, that and the front-loaded nature of the contract. From what we've seen from each side, I'd guess the negotiations, at least unless somebody eventually backs down, go like this: Â OBD: Look, the cap numbers aren't the problem. The problem is the front-loaded nature of the contract and the guarantee ... if we keep him for one year it would cost us $30.75 mill and if we keep him for two it would cost us $40.5 mill and those numbers just don't work for us. Â Tyrod's negotiator: We'd be willing to change things so the cap numbers go down for you. Â OBD: Um, I said the cap numbers are NOT the problem, the problem is the front-loaded deal. Â Tyrod's negotiator: I hear you. We are totally willing to work with you on making the cap numbers more reasonable for you. What we're not willing to do i accept less up front. Â OBD: So you aren't willing to address our concerns. Again, we don't care about the cap numbers. Â Tyrod's negotiator: Yeah, we're completely willing to be fluid on those cap numbers. Â OBD: Uhhhhhhhhhhh. Â I still don't see why this matters. It's not like it' our money that's being spent. Â They can designate Taylor a post June 1st cut in any of the coming years and free up most of his cap hit. Â The money shouldn't be a problem. You pay the guy to keep the team competitive for the next 1-2 years while searching for a better option and as soon as you find that guy you cut Taylor and free up a bunch of cap space. He still gets his guaranteed money but it makes little impact on the Bills ability to field a competitive roster once he's cut. Edited March 4, 2017 by jrober38
dave mcbride Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 Incarcerated Vic Did Carucci actually say this? It doesn't say that at all in the linked piece, but I'll admit not listening the radio piece.
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 Vic used to be the best. He has lost almost all credibility.
ricojes Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 I'll stand by my page 1 post "I am leaning towards not believing anything linked to Carucci..."
Wagon Circler Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 I interpret 'still evaluating Taylor' as meaning that they are trying to negotiate a revised contract. Kudos to hemma for nailing it.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 Good ole Vic. How's that tastin to you?
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