BADOLBILZ Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 I like the sounds of a long-term deal, but 5th round tender....that's really not going to stop anyone from offering him a deal. He's a second or third round back in this draft with no character concerns. There's a lot of value in that. I like Gillislee a lot but I dislike giving RB's long term deals. IMO, it would have been worth paying the extra $900K or so to effectively lock him down for this season but still be able to move on next year if they find another one late in the draft of UDFA or scrap heap............nobody is coughing up a 2nd in this draft. But a fifth? With all the comp picks this year that is a virtual 6th. Mistakes wrt RB deals have lead to the Bills squandering so many draft resources on RB's in their history it's utterly crazy.
H2o Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 I like Mike, but I worry about him holding up with that running style at times. He was in a few serious collisions this past season. He doesn't shy away from contact that's for sure.
YoloinOhio Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Maybe they want the pick more than they want him and are hoping some team steps up with an offer. It wasn't coming if it was a 2nd rd tender. Gillislee is a nice backup but this is a crazy good RB draft. Edited March 7, 2017 by YoloinOhio
BarleyNY Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 I like Gillislee a lot but I dislike giving RB's long term deals. IMO, it would have been worth paying the extra $900K or so to effectively lock him down for this season but still be able to move on next year if they find another one late in the draft of UDFA or scrap heap............nobody is coughing up a 2nd in this draft. But a fifth? With all the comp picks this year that is a virtual 6th. Mistakes wrt RB deals have lead to the Bills squandering so many draft resources on RB's in their history it's utterly crazy. I agree. I expected the 2nd round tender. I have to think some teams would be very interested in him for only a 5th. The Bills can match, but I doubt they'd do so.
Bronxbomber21 Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Buffalo giving Gilly the 5th comes across as if they want the draft pick.
BuffaloRebound Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Nobody is giving Gillislee $3m per year and paying a 5th round pick. New England pays Blount $1m per year. Atlanta pays their 2 rb's a combined $3m per year.
Fan in Chicago Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Nobody is giving Gillislee $3m per year and paying a 5th round pick. New England pays Blount $1m per year. Atlanta pays their 2 rb's a combined $3m per year. With a lack of a Brady and a Matt Ryan, Buffalo needs to rely more on the run game than those teams. I am not totally disagreeing with your sentiment to spend very moderate amounts for the RB position but those two are not good comparables for the Bills.
BillsFan17 Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 I absolutely love TD Mike. Would kill to keep him. However, we aren't looking for a feature back, his role ideally could be filled by a late round pick. I fore one hope Mixon goes undrafted and we are able to sign him.
BillsFan17 Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Some team will gladly send their 5th round pick for MG.Yeah, but we will have a chance to match whatever offer is made, and unless the offer is Hogan type ludicrous, than I see us matching.
MPT Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Nobody is giving Gillislee $3m per year and paying a 5th round pick. New England pays Blount $1m per year. Atlanta pays their 2 rb's a combined $3m per year. Atlanta's RB's are both on rookie contracts. Freeman is about to get paid like a top back and Coleman will be right behind him. In two years their combined salary will be over $10 million. Blount is happy with $1 million because he knows any scrub could run as a complement to Brady. $3 million isn't that much for a guy who could be a starter on a team without a true #1.
BADOLBILZ Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Maybe they want the pick more than they want him and are hoping some team steps up with an offer. It wasn't coming if it was a 2nd rd tender. Gillislee is a nice backup but this is a crazy good RB draft. Yeah it's loaded. If they come out of this draft process without a good S, CB and RB they will have mishandled the draft/UDFA process this year. The DB class reminds me of the year that Donahoe got Jabari Greer in UDFA......there was a pretty good S they got in UDFA that year too. Using BPA as a guide would inevitably lead them to those positions at some point in the process.........reaching for need in places this draft can't provide it will just make them more needy next year.
MPT Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 ...his role ideally could be filled by a late round pick. That all depends on our GM being able to find talent in the draft, which he has not been able to do consistently. That sentiment is also the reason our team is a revolving door of talent.
Billy Zabka Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 How much of a difference money wise is the 5th round tender then a 2nd. I believe it is 800K.
BillsFan17 Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 That all depends on our GM being able to find talent in the draft, which he has not been able to do consistently. That sentiment is also the reason our team is a revolving door of talent. Yet, he was able to identify the player of topic. Albeit not in the draft, but still scouted the kid obviously enough to see he was worth a shot.
Billy Zabka Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 If Gillislee hits unrestricted free agency, he will be poached as their are just too many teams with a boatload of cap room. You'd figure Whaley learned his lesson with Hogan, but with his MC Hammer like cap skills he is forced to pinch pennies. Hopefully they lock him up soon or it's gonna be another key solid contributor lost over 800K.
Buffalo86 Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 If Gillislee hits unrestricted free agency, he will be poached as their are just too many teams with a boatload of cap room. You'd figure Whaley learned his lesson with Hogan, but with his MC Hammer like cap skills he is forced to pinch pennies. Hopefully they lock him up soon or it's gonna be another key solid contributor lost over 800K. It seems like Whaley learned a little bit, but not enough. Worth noting that he's taken Karlos Williams & Jonathan Williams in the 5th round of the last two drafts. Look for BYU RB Jamaal Williams in the 5th this year.
Stud37 Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 It seems like Whaley learned a little bit, but not enough. Worth noting that he's taken Karlos Williams & Jonathan Williams in the 5th round of the last two drafts. Look for BYU RB Jamaal Williams in the 5th this year. Who would not be a bad pick btw. There are some fantastic RBs through out this entire draft, Williams being one of them.
Coach Tuesday Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) I could see Green Bay, Detroit, Baltimore, the Chargers or Jacksonville trying to sign Gilly. Doug Whaley sucks at the RFA process - he screwed it up with Hogan and he may have just screwed it up with Gilly. It seems to stem from his lack of awareness of how other teams value players, which (not surprisingly) is also the reason he misplays the draft when it comes to QBs (he always seems to think they're going to go a round later than they actually do). Edited March 7, 2017 by Coach Tuesday
GunnerBill Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Washington is the most likely team to offer MG a bigger deal. They have a huge need at running back.
Coach Tuesday Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Washington is the most likely team to offer MG a bigger deal. They have a huge need at running back. Somehow I see Alfred Morris ending up back there.
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