YoloinOhio Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Regardless of what the tweet meant, still wouldn't be at all surprised if he's cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Regardless of what the tweet meant, still wouldn't be at all surprised if he's cut. yes but it's too soon to cut him. it would be at the cut day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 This wouldn't surprise me for few reasons... 1) Dennison's most successful backs are more like Gillislee -- quick hitting slashers. Bills have Gillislee and Jonathan Williams who fit the mold better. Now you give Gillislee a 2nd round tender. 2) Designating this as the old post June 1st cut saves over $6 million not $1 million - now you can cut in March but designate the cut as post June 1st - part of the CBA http://www.thephinsider.com/2015/2/18/8057333/nfl-free-agency-201-post-june-cuts-explanation 3) The draft can yield gems at this position who can contribute right away in later rounds-- like Freeman from TX who fits the style better 4) McDermott has a unique opportunity to blow things up and start over -- he is powerful with the Pegulas. If he and the staff feel that starting over in some areas will help--they will let him. He may be making a conscious choice not to shoot for the short term playoffs but to build a Super Bowl contender. 5) This tells me bye-bye Tyrod as well. To your points 1 and 3 - I have been saying this even when it comes to TT. That the structure of our O will be refelective of what Dennison and McD want to do going forward. i like McCoy but can understand him being let go/ traded if the O is going to be the type you describe. I would love for us to get a pick for McCoy and his value should be fairly high right now (for a RB that is). Only thing I worry about is that the Bills will spend a high draft pick to fill the gap. While Gillislee may be good, I dont think he can be the feature back. And not sure yet about JW as we havent seen much of him. I like the fact that McD is quiet about all this. The next month will tell us a lot about the future direction of the O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I do not have Instagram, but that further confirms my source. Apparently, McCoy wasn't thrilled with the Rex firing. He felt it was too quick. Front office disconnect, especially with Whaley, reached a peak over the last few weeks. Stay tuned. It would be a dickmove by Shady to give Whaley any sh*t after he voluntarily donated $26.5M in guarantees to his retirement fund...........but could be a sound financial play by McCoy if true. This was a problem with unnecessarily extending and guaranteeing 2/3 of his contract. He got the Bills to let him double dip when he'd already been paid up front by the Eagles and was under contract thru the 2017 season.........and now he can go out and get a new 2 year deal? with some more guarantees. If he gets cut he will have cost the Bills over $15M per season. Revis'd by a RB? I guess we will see but the minute that extension was given it was almost a certainty that this would not end well..........the reason you trade for vet players under contract like that is to get their fully unguaranteed contract. It's control. The Bills have no real leverage on Shady....if he'd have had another dud year like 2015 they would have cut him and he'd pocket 2/3 of the extension........if he had a strong year he could BENEFIT from his release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 To your points 1 and 3 - I have been saying this even when it comes to TT. That the structure of our O will be refelective of what Dennison and McD want to do going forward. i like McCoy but can understand him being let go/ traded if the O is going to be the type you describe. I would love for us to get a pick for McCoy and his value should be fairly high right now (for a RB that is). Only thing I worry about is that the Bills will spend a high draft pick to fill the gap. While Gillislee may be good, I dont think he can be the feature back. And not sure yet about JW as we havent seen much of him. I like the fact that McD is quiet about all this. The next month will tell us a lot about the future direction of the O. All good points. A trade would be tough because it accelerates the cap hit..its just like cutting him with no post June 1st designation. The post June 1st cut saves $5 million in cap room. It is essentially a trade of Shady for however the Bills can use the $5 million in cap room. The cap room is more valuable than what the Bills would get in return for any trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 If this CRAZY 'effin story is true, we better get a first AND second round pick out of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 This thread proves once again that if you throw some wacky, crazy-a$$ stojan out there, you'll still manage to attract some folks who will actually wind up defending/supporting it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 The terms of some of our recently agreed to contracts (or restructures) are just plain stupid (Clay, Shady and Dareus). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 All good points. A trade would be tough because it accelerates the cap hit..its just like cutting him with no post June 1st designation. The post June 1st cut saves $5 million in cap room. It is essentially a trade of Shady for however the Bills can use the $5 million in cap room. The cap room is more valuable than what the Bills would get in return for any trade. Again, bravo to his agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Anyone complaining about how much Mccoy is making hasn't been watching the games. He is the only reason we actually scored points this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Son Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 This would be insane. I don't buy it, at all This wouldn't surprise me for few reasons... 1) Dennison's most successful backs are more like Gillislee -- quick hitting slashers. Bills have Gillislee and Jonathan Williams who fit the mold better. Now you give Gillislee a 2nd round tender. 2) Designating this as the old post June 1st cut saves over $6 million not $1 million - now you can cut in March but designate the cut as post June 1st - part of the CBA http://www.thephinsider.com/2015/2/18/8057333/nfl-free-agency-201-post-june-cuts-explanation 3) The draft can yield gems at this position who can contribute right away in later rounds-- like Freeman from TX who fits the style better 4) McDermott has a unique opportunity to blow things up and start over -- he is powerful with the Pegulas. If he and the staff feel that starting over in some areas will help--they will let him. He may be making a conscious choice not to shoot for the short term playoffs but to build a Super Bowl contender. 5) If Shady is cut, this tells me bye-bye Tyrod as well. If we have an OC that would prefer Gillisee over Shady... we have big, big problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I prefer this source Why should we trust this "John Wawrow" if that's even his real name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I do not have Instagram, but that further confirms my source. Apparently, McCoy wasn't thrilled with the Rex firing. He felt it was too quick. Front office disconnect, especially with Whaley, reached a peak over the last few weeks. Stay tuned. Friggin' Lil Doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 This thread proves once again that if you throw some wacky, crazy-a$$ stojan out there, you'll still manage to attract some folks who will actually wind up defending/supporting it! Yeah, but then again how many times have you expressed sentiments like this and got egg on YOUR face? It makes sense, it's not the first time mentioned and is as real a possibility. Personally, I am not really in favor of it at this point because he's worth his $6M base salary and they have enormous amounts of cap room in 2018 and 2019 and very few in-house players to spend it on....so they could find plenty of other ways to push money into the future and make cap space without mortgaging the future cap. But it makes sense because the Kubiak system can "make" RB's productive.......see Justin Forsett in that one season in Baltimore.........and it makes sense for Shady if he wants to go back to Philly.........or a lot of places because he can get more guaranteed money on the open market.....especially if cut EARLY. It would behoove him to push the envelope so the story from JMC makes sense from that standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Fake as all fake news gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Lol. Bring in Justin Forsett that will get done. No shady keep Tyrod = bye Felicia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobRyanFan Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 If we cut Shady imma become a bandwagon Falcons fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Why should we trust this "John Wawrow" if that's even his real name? Sounds like Scooby Doo trying to pronounce Don Ralmow. Not buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Buncha BS. Shady is not going anywhere. This offseason is nuckin futz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 All good points. A trade would be tough because it accelerates the cap hit..its just like cutting him with no post June 1st designation. The post June 1st cut saves $5 million in cap room. It is essentially a trade of Shady for however the Bills can use the $5 million in cap room. The cap room is more valuable than what the Bills would get in return for any trade. yes, but then there is a 5 mil cap hit next year. june 1st spreads it over 2 seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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