WideNine Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 9:38 AM, BillsFanNC said: The same guy Tweeted this Doesn't really align with all the echo-chamber echoes in this thread of posting tweets of all the GOP hardliners and their many complaints that the media does not favorably view Trump or the GOP. I agree with him that the Steele dossier was poor media work, but it was not intended for media publication. Most folks here do not know the first thing about the Steele dossier, they just parrot the words and Tweets they've digested. Like the fact the Fusion GPS and the Steele dossier were originally funded by a Conservative group at the Washington Beacon as opposition research on Trump for other GOP candidates, it was only picked up again later by the Clinton campaign. Some of it was found to be true, and some elements were found to be false because Steele himself said that the information still needed to be vetted and did not authorize its release or publication. The intelligence community largely ignored the dossier although they did follow-up to vet if any of the information was true. The Mueller report barely made passing reference to it. The Steele dossier was used by the FISA Court to obtain warrants on Carter Page, which shows how much a rubber stamp process FISA warrants can be. 2
BillsFanNC Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, WideNine said: The same guy Tweeted this Doesn't really align with all the echo-chamber echoes in this thread of posting tweets of all the GOP hardliners and their many complaints that the media does not favorably view Trump or the GOP. I agree with him that the Steele dossier was poor media work, but it was not intended for media publication. Most folks here do not know the first thing about the Steele dossier, they just parrot the words and Tweets they've digested. Like the fact the Fusion GPS and the Steele dossier were originally funded by a Conservative group at the Washington Beacon as opposition research on Trump for other GOP candidates, it was only picked up again later by the Clinton campaign. Some of it was found to be true, and some elements were found to be false because Steele himself said that the information still needed to be vetted and did not authorize its release or publication. The intelligence community largely ignored the dossier although they did follow-up to vet if any of the information was true. The Mueller report barely made passing reference to it. The Steele dossier was used by the FISA Court to obtain warrants on Carter Page, which shows how much a rubber stamp process FISA warrants can be.
WideNine Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Reading the source material? Facts?
BillsFanNC Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 7 hours ago, WideNine said: Reading the source material? Facts? You've clearly read none of the source material. If you had then your original post wouldn't be simply ignorant, it would be lying.. I could do what DR used to do and be cordial and make a good faith attempt to walk you through it, but I won't. That would be a classic example of an exercise in futility. Stay lost.
BillsFanNC Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) Edited October 14, 2020 by BillsFanNC
BillsFanNC Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 As enemies of the people this behavior is not unexpected. Its up to honest people to hold them to account, no matter who they support politically. 2
B-Man Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 JIM TREACHER: The Media Will Drag Joe Biden Across the Finish Line if It’s the Last Thing They Do.
B-Man Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 Forget Biden......... The Hill: President Trump ordered malts during a classified intelligence briefing
WideNine Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 4:12 AM, BillsFanNC said: You've clearly read none of the source material. If you had then your original post wouldn't be simply ignorant, it would be lying.. I could do what DR used to do and be cordial and make a good faith attempt to walk you through it, but I won't. That would be a classic example of an exercise in futility. Stay lost. Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier If you can prove that you know what you think you know, the good folks at Wikipedia will update the facts to fit the better info you can provide; otherwise you are just parroting Trump's "witch hunt" nonsense. You can suggest your improvements via their "Talk" pages Each article also has a "Talk" page, where you can suggest improvements and corrections to the article.
Kemp Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 While Trump attacks Lesley Stahl before his 60 Minutes interview airs, a reminder that he once told her exactly why he attacks the press: “I do it to discredit you all & demean you all so when you write negative stories about me, no one will believe you.”https://t.co/OWCK1FrPLV 1
WEATHER DOT COM Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 Too bad Trumped walked out of that interview like a giant *****
BillsFanNC Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 10 hours ago, WideNine said: Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier If you can prove that you know what you think you know, the good folks at Wikipedia will update the facts to fit the better info you can provide; otherwise you are just parroting Trump's "witch hunt" nonsense. You can suggest your improvements via their "Talk" pages Each article also has a "Talk" page, where you can suggest improvements and corrections to the article. 😄 Wikipedia. Even still being Wikipedia they acknowledge, but of course downplay, that Steeles subsource told the FBI his information was garbage in January of 2017 and the FBI still went to the FISA court to renew. They are obligated to update the court with this information and they didn't in order that they could continue to spy on Carter Page. I understand that you hate Trump enough that you're seemingly ok with this. But are YOU personally ok with the FBI using known garbage in order to spy on you personally or your family? At the end of the day this really isn't about Trump, although you'd like it to be. It's with government institutions that we've granted massive powers, turning around and using those powers to trample on the constitutional rights of American citizens. Its simply not ok to do this no matter what your politics are. If you are ok with that, then the question is why? Because you hate or disagree with Trump and/or Republicans is not a viable answer. 1
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