reddogblitz Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) Tell that to Mary Jo or that chick that got raped.Are we now judging potential presidential candidates on what thier dead Great Uncle did? I guess sins DO carry down for 7 generations. Edited July 4, 2017 by reddogblitz
DC Tom Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Are we now judging potential presidential candidates on what thier dead Great Uncle did? I guess sins DO carry down for 7 generations. My great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather was one of the pioneers of oppressing Native Americans. And I have a fifth cousin, four times removed, who voted for the NSDAP in the early '30s. I'll never be president.
Benjamin Franklin Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 What eviscerates how good of a politician he was...or at least could have been...was how many people, including the Obamas, used race as the primary foil to their critics. He never had a good message beyond "hope and change." Even the Clintons knew this, and quietly complained about it. That he had a nice smile and could read well absolutely helped him. But if he were just another white member of the Choom Gang, he never makes it to Harvard, let alone editor of the Harvard Law Review. In fact, I'm one of those people who believes the confusion about Barack Obama's birthplace didn't stem from the fact that he wasn't born in the US, but rather that on college apps, etc., he would falsely list his home as Kenya to gain special consideration for admittance, much like Liz Warren touted being 1/32nd Cherokee and then is listed on university marketing materials as representing the Native America people. You discount how strong of a politician he was too. He beat Clinton before Benghazi--That's no mean feat and it wasn't just black people who elected him. He connected with people in a way I've not seen in a while. He was a gifted politician. To write off his success as due to his blackness is naive at best and with racist undertones at worst. A white Obama is not just another guy: He's Bill Clinton-eque.
4merper4mer Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Are we now judging potential presidential candidates on what thier dead Great Uncle did? I guess sins DO carry down for 7 generations. If he is qualified because of his last name he can be disqualified because of his last name.
B-Man Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 VICTOR DAVIS HANSON: Trump’s High-Stakes Tweeting. Trump’s occasional uncouthness is a symptom, not a catalyst, of the times. Bill Clinton redefined presidential behavior when he had sexual relations with a 22-year-old, unpaid intern (so much for power imbalances as sexual harassment) in the presidential bathroom off the Oval Office, lied about his recklessness to his family and the country, smeared Monica Lewinsky, and then wheeled out to the Rose Garden feminist cabinet officers like Madeline Albright and Donna Shalala to deny and defend his unsavory predatory behavior. After that sordid episode, the apologetic Left lost all credibility as an arbiter of presidential norms. Indeed, Clinton had brought us into new debased territory. In contrast, George W. Bush for eight years restored honor, integrity, and decorum to the White House. But he was rewarded for exemplary behavior by being branded a Nazi warmonger, as docudrama films and novels appeared imagining his assassination, and even the likes of John Glenn stooped to the Nazi slurs on his character. (“It’s the old Hitler business.”) Out of office, Bush professionally kept quiet and busy as an accomplished artist, as Obama moved the country leftward. For that, Bush was ridiculed by the Left as reduced to a bewildered, paint-by-numbers dabbler. The emeritus Obama, by contrast, frolics on billionaires’ yachts docked off tropical islands with the mega-rich whom he attacks in Wall Street chats for $10,000 a minute—and takes a day off from his wind surfing to weigh in on Trump’s unfitness. For all that, he remains a progressive icon. . . . Factored into the Trump’s tweeting controversies are other variables mostly left unsaid by the media: Trump has melted down partisan journalists and left the American progressive media in shambles. It was Obama, not Trump, who established the practice of going after journalists by name, both materially and rhetorically, from surveilling Fox’s James Rosen to using puerile hype to attack Sean Hannity (“You know, I’ll put—I’ll put Mr. Burgess up against Sean Hannity. He’ll tear him up.” [emphasis added]). Obama was angry that a few reporters did not join the cult of Obama worship; Trump is peeved almost no one in the press is disinterested. Trump saw Obama’s precedent, and proverbially trumped it. CNN is now no longer a news organization, but has been reduced to caricature by Trump hatred. . . . First, half the country despises the mainstream media and sees it as arrogant, corrupt, hypocritical, and in need of comeuppance. Trump is not running against a centrist populist Democrat like John Kennedy or Harry Truman, but a crude Resistance of foul mouths like Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez and U.S. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), unhinged celebrities like Maher and Colbert, street theater, thuggery on campuses, and not very bright media talking heads imploding as they try to top their rivals’ hatred for Trump and what he represents. Read the whole thing. But here’s one more bit: “Finally, no one has calibrated quite the nation’s deep antipathy toward the coastal media-university-political-cultural nexus, most specifically its utter hypocrisy. Half the country sees not so much Democrats or progressives, but rather a bankrupt class whose venom for others is used to excuse their own exemptions from the ramifications of their own ideology.” https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/269014/
row_33 Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Obama was a fundamentally decent man who had a cushy 8 years free of any media scrutiny. There's no points scored off him, he was basically irrelevant to past, present and future.
Deranged Rhino Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 It wouldn't let me just copy the image, but Michael Che's post about Trump is not just true but worth the quick read: thanks for that. I'm traveling and can never get images to post from my iPad. Happy 4th, all.
Azalin Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Happy 4th, all. To you as well - happy independence day, my friend!
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Obama was a fundamentally decent man who had a cushy 8 years free of any media scrutiny. There's no points scored off him, he was basically irrelevant to past, present and future. Decent? A decent man doesn't abandon allies like Israel in favor of enemies like Iran.
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Decent? A decent man doesn't abandon allies like Israel in favor of enemies like Iran. The difference between a flower and a weed is a judgment. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/iran-demonize-evil-tehran-213539
mead107 Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 A 70 year old president that uses social media better than most younger people.
Big Gun Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 The difference between a flower and a weed is a judgment. Not really http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/iran-demonize-evil-tehran-213539
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) Not really I know. Not the science between the two, but the aesthetics between the two. Edited July 4, 2017 by ExiledInIllinois
row_33 Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Joe6, his parting shots at Israel were disappointing but completely irrelevant.
HappyDays Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 In fact, I'm one of those people who believes the confusion about Barack Obama's birthplace didn't stem from the fact that he wasn't born in the US, but rather that on college apps, etc., he would falsely list his home as Kenya to gain special consideration for admittance. Where did you get this garbage from?
Coach Tuesday Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 What eviscerates how good of a politician he was...or at least could have been...was how many people, including the Obamas, used race as the primary foil to their critics. He never had a good message beyond "hope and change." Even the Clintons knew this, and quietly complained about it. That he had a nice smile and could read well absolutely helped him. But if he were just another white member of the Choom Gang, he never makes it to Harvard, let alone editor of the Harvard Law Review. In fact, I'm one of those people who believes the confusion about Barack Obama's birthplace didn't stem from the fact that he wasn't born in the US, but rather that on college apps, etc., he would falsely list his home as Kenya to gain special consideration for admittance, much like Liz Warren touted being 1/32nd Cherokee and then is listed on university marketing materials as representing the Native America people. Wow you're batschitt. Does GWJr. become president if he wasn't born a member of the lucky sperm club? Do you ever wonder why all of your well thought-out opinions end up in the exact place you were hoping they would when you started thinking about them? It's no coincidence, you're a partisan.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Wow you're batschitt. Does GWJr. become president if he wasn't born a member of the lucky sperm club? Do you ever wonder why all of your well thought-out opinions end up in the exact place you were hoping they would when you started thinking about them? It's no coincidence, you're a partisan. Really? Really.
Coach Tuesday Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) Really? Really. You're right in line with him. Some of you folks are monotone. It's boring. What a coincidence that you're always on the exact same side on every issue. Edited July 4, 2017 by Coach Tuesday
IDBillzFan Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) Wow you're batschitt. Does GWJr. become president if he wasn't born a member of the lucky sperm club? Do you ever wonder why all of your well thought-out opinions end up in the exact place you were hoping they would when you started thinking about them? It's no coincidence, you're a partisan. Lucky sperm club. You lefties are so funny. Your party is circling the drain because you can't admit how much Barry and Hillary screwed things up, but we're the partisans. GWB doesn't become president if he's born George W. McGillicutty of the Macungie, PA McGillicutty clan, who have two 7-11 franchises in the family. And Barack Obama does not become president if he's white. He never gets past Hillary because it would have become white man vs. "You should vote for Hillary because she's a woman." Instead, it became "Vote Barack or you're a racist" vs. the wife of a sexual predator who Barack condescendingly referred to as "likeable enough." A white man says Hillary is 'likeable enough' and the feminists are dropping used maxi-pads from airplanes over every GOP man on earth. The sooner your party recognizes the damage Barry and Hillary did the Dems and minorities in this country, the sooner you can find a way to beat a completely beatable nutjob like Trump. Edited July 4, 2017 by LABillzFan
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 You're right in line with him. Some of you folks are monotone. It's boring. What a coincidence that you're always on the exact same side on every issue. Except we're not.
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