gatorbait Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 most people don't care what trump thinks here do you understand that part? i can walk you to the special one. here, make sure you get your helmet on and adult diaper, because you're head may explode and you may **** yourself when you realize the truth. ok, so most don't care what he thinks. or says. so we dont' care what he does or says for the most part, that's step two! ok, are you ready you special little snowflake? 3 steps here we go! we notice what he has done and we aren't complaining. to us, we're adult men. not little soft bitches who get upset by words. we know action takes that over saying and thinking. how about this example. trump says things and it matters and everyone thinks its doing something. i once told my dad i mowed the lawn. i didn't. but, according to your brain which has the impotence of thought akin to bill cosbys senile penis - i might as well have done the lawn because i said so. and saying is doing! Feel better? Most people here don't care what you think just like Trump. Capitalization and grammar might help your cause there champ. Let me know when I actually whine or cry about something like you are doing right now.
boyst Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 Feel better? Most people here don't care what you think just like Trump. Capitalization and grammar might help your cause there champ. Let me know when I actually whine or cry about something like you are doing right now. no i don't feel better. i don't care enough. i am relaxing this evening figuring out my weekend. i am watching cartoons and not thinking. the colorful chippiness is for me not anyone else disirregardless if others read it. i could have this discussion with the googlebot or toms bot or a robot or dog90210 i don't care what others think of me if you've not noticed. i already realize i'm much more !@#$ed up than they realize
GG Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 You don't know my views and to start I'm not on the left. Doesn't matter though, I'm a nobody. I don't find it worth my time to argue with someone who thinks Obama is as morally corrupt as Trump. Nobody is making the claim. But we have no idea about Obama's moral compass because he's the master of cool and hasn't resorted to public childish tantrums. Other than that, you can't say anything about him, because he was the coolest kid in the class between 2008 and 2016 and all the other kids who wanted to touch that coolness wouldn't dare question him or his motives.
gatorbait Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 Nobody is making the claim. But we have no idea about Obama's moral compass because he's the master of cool and hasn't resorted to public childish tantrums. Other than that, you can't say anything about him, because he was the coolest kid in the class between 2008 and 2016 and all the other kids who wanted to touch that coolness wouldn't dare question him or his motives. LABillz didn't use the words morally corrupt, you're right. He said Trump is "nowhere NEAR as bad as Hillary and Barry when it comes to their nature as a human being." That is completely wrong in my opinion. Obama has class, Trump shows an utter lack of it every time he speaks or tweets. Have any of you even read a transcript of Trump's words? It's an embarrassingly sad and jumbled word salad. Obama actually held press conferences and brushed off the ridiculous **** being said about him on fox. Trump doesn't have the fortitude to brush anything off. Obama didn't cheat on and divorce multiple women or insult people on a daily basis. Obama may not have been the strongest or best president, that much is evident, but he left the country in a pretty good place. The jury is still out on what the country will look like in 3.5 years when Trump leaves office.
Deranged Rhino Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 (edited) LABillz didn't use the words morally corrupt, you're right. He said Trump is "nowhere NEAR as bad as Hillary and Barry when it comes to their nature as a human being." That is completely wrong in my opinion. Obama has class, Trump shows an utter lack of it every time he speaks or tweets. Have any of you even read a transcript of Trump's words? It's an embarrassingly sad and jumbled word salad. Obama actually held press conferences and brushed off the ridiculous **** being said about him on fox. Trump doesn't have the fortitude to brush anything off. Obama didn't cheat on and divorce multiple women or insult people on a daily basis. Obama may not have been the strongest or best president, that much is evident, but he left the country in a pretty good place. The jury is still out on what the country will look like in 3.5 years when Trump leaves office. He went back on every meaningful campaign promise he made: he increased the surveillance state and doubled down on the constitutional violations of his mass surveillance program, he dropped more bombs than any other president in history outside of a World War and more than any other Nobel Peace Prize winner, revamped and accelerated a draconian and unconstitutional drone assassination program, he sold out to the health insurance lobby and the big banking lobby, he oversaw two regime change wars of his own volition (Libya, Syria - where he allied US forces with AQ and ISIS fighters in theater - the very enemy he used as a reason for unconstitutional mass surveillance), three if you want to really get into what sparked the revolution in Ukraine. But yeah, 44 was a boon to the country... if the definition of "country" is restricted to the MiC, central banks, and the Saudis. Some progressive he was. All that said, Trump is still a jackass. Edited July 1, 2017 by Deranged Rhino
Benjamin Franklin Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 Obama Obama Obama Hillary Hillary Hillary You guys are obsessed with the unemployed.
Deranged Rhino Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 Obama Obama Obama Hillary Hillary Hillary You guys are obsessed with the unemployed. Neither have exactly gone away. Say what you will about W - and I've said a lot - but at least he just !@#$ed off and became a painter.
gatorbait Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 He went back on every meaningful campaign promise he made: he increased the surveillance state and doubled down on the constitutional violations of his mass surveillance program, he dropped more bombs than any other president in history outside of a World War and more than any other Nobel Peace Prize winner, revamped and accelerated a draconian and unconstitutional drone assassination program, he sold out to the health insurance lobby and the big banking lobby, he oversaw two regime change wars of his own volition (Libya, Syria - where he allied US forces with AQ and ISIS fighters in theater - the very enemy he used as a reason for unconstitutional mass surveillance), three if you want to really get into what sparked the revolution in Ukraine. But yeah, 44 was a boon to the country... if the definition of "country" is restricted to the MiC, central banks, and the Saudis. Some progressive he was. All that said, Trump is still a jackass. He went back on every campaign promise, huh? Care to list any positives or are we just listing the negatives? What was the country like in 2008 when he took over? I said he had class and left the country in a pretty good place. Didn't realize that would trigger you like it did. A lot of people think he left the country in a better place than when he took office. Aliens, sitcom math, chem-trails, spying, surveillance, Tuskegee experiment, false flag attack, 911 conspiracy, lizard people, the greys, fluoride water........... Do you have a full-on rage boner right now?
Deranged Rhino Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 He went back on every campaign promise, huh? Meaningful campaign promise. The qualifier was intentional. He did some good things. But they're wallpaper. The foundation he built was a betrayal of every meaningful campaign promise he made. Didn't realize that would trigger you like it did. A lot of people think he left the country in a better place than when he took office. Aliens, sitcom math, chem-trails, spying, surveillance, Tuskegee experiment, false flag attack, 911 conspiracy, lizard people, the greys, fluoride water........... Do you have a full-on rage boner right now? A lot of people are idiots. The reality - our reality - doesn't match the words, friend.
gatorbait Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 A lot of people are idiots. The reality - our reality - doesn't match the words, friend. Fair enough. I'm probably one of those idiots, just ask Tom. Cheers Rhino.
Doc Brown Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 The media only cares about ratings and they and Trump are both colluding in generating outrageous headlines. The Dems are not alone in finding out if Trump is compromised by the Russians. There are plenty of Republicans interested as well. Don't you love your country and want to know? Not really because the whole idea of Trump being compromised by the Russians seems absurd to me and I haven't seen any concrete evidence yet. Like Bush and Obama, Trump may be a little optimistic in trying to have a positive negotiating relationship with Putin which explains why he doesn't speak ill of him despite media pressure. I'm more worried about the 13.5% proposed budget cut to the Dept. of education with proposed programs that makes it more difficult for students to gain PELL grants and pay back student loans. I'm more worried about Sessions War on Drugs where he encouraged prosecutors to go for the harshest sentence possible under the law for nonviolent low level drug offenders. It likely will only will lead to overpopulated prisons when we already have the highest incarnation rate among major countries and huts minority families. Then of course there's the proposed tax cuts for the rich and large corporations. Trickle down economics always sounds great in theory, but I've yet to see a definitive study showing its effectiveness.
TakeYouToTasker Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 I keep seeing people writing "Trickledown economics", which means something specific, and a supporting context which doesn't seem to align with that specific meaning. Are we all sure we're using the right words here?
Doc Brown Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 (edited) I keep seeing people writing "Trickledown economics", which means something specific, and a supporting context which doesn't seem to align with that specific meaning. Are we all sure we're using the right words here? To help clarify Trump's tax plan and the broad term of trickle down economics..... It was the most non partisan article I could find. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2016/11/11/can-trump-make-trickle-down-economics-work/93586144/ Here's an article that I agree with as I've always felt trickle down economics is a clever economic trick that George HW Bush once called "voodoo economics" that even highly intelligent people still buy into. It's just tax breaks for the rich that hurt the middle class and poor in the long term. Ask Kansas how their experiment went. http://fortune.com/2017/04/27/donald-trump-tax-cut-plan-wont-boost-economy/ Edited July 1, 2017 by Doc Brown
Benjamin Franklin Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 Neither have exactly gone away. Say what you will about W - and I've said a lot - but at least he just !@#$ed off and became a painter. If people were reacting to a comment by the vacationer in chief or Queen Bitterness, you would have a point. But this is "I know you are but what am I" arguing.
Tiberius Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 Not really because the whole idea of Trump being compromised by the Russians seems absurd to me and I haven't seen any concrete evidence yet. . Well, seeing how you think the CBO is biased or written no against Republicans, I don't doubt you think the evidence so far against Trump is underwhelming. Do you even know about any of the evidence? There's plenty of it for those paying attention
HappyDays Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 (edited) He went back on every meaningful campaign promise he made: he increased the surveillance state and doubled down on the constitutional violations of his mass surveillance program, he dropped more bombs than any other president in history outside of a World War and more than any other Nobel Peace Prize winner, revamped and accelerated a draconian and unconstitutional drone assassination program, he sold out to the health insurance lobby and the big banking lobby, he oversaw two regime change wars of his own volition (Libya, Syria - where he allied US forces with AQ and ISIS fighters in theater - the very enemy he used as a reason for unconstitutional mass surveillance), three if you want to really get into what sparked the revolution in Ukraine. But yeah, 44 was a boon to the country... if the definition of "country" is restricted to the MiC, central banks, and the Saudis. Some progressive he was. All that said, Trump is still a jackass. Okay but the Trump administration so far has been just as pro-war as the Obama administration. Obama pardoned the military leaker from spending the rest of his life in prison, can you imagine Trump doing something like that? So it is not clear to me how this post shows that Trump and Obama are on the same level. Trump is like every right-wing stereotype of Obama packaged into one little orange man. When Obama was president right wing media actually complained that Obama golfed too much. Can you believe that? In retrospect isn't it so utterly ridiculous? Breitbart is a popular source around here. So while you're all claiming that the media is dishonest hypocrites think about these images: The Melania dress in question cost $51,000. But people posting this website as a source want to claim the media is unfair to Trump. Trump brings it all on himself. There are ways to make scandals go away, to push public opinion in your favor. Trump is intent on having the last word in everything. He is like no president we have had in 100 years because he responds to every little criticism. He is even now blocking some people and groups on Twitter. Obama, or Bush, didn't take time to do crap like that because for all their faults they actually governed our nation. You know what, the text from those Breitbart articles is too hilarious to not post: In a visit to meet Pope Francis, Melania worked with Dolce & Gabbana, again, on a stunning custom-made, black coat-dress that showed off a beautiful round collar, framing the First Ladys face. The look was paired with a black lace Mantilla and black Manolo Blahnik stilettos, sticking to the Vatican dress code. According to WorldVision, you can feed a child for just $35 a month. Michelle Obamas dress would feed over 80 children for that month. This choice obviously is contrary to the values of Pope Francis. But the Obamas religious values come from elsewhere, a divisive and disturbing place, not a charitable or unifying one.I mean come on. If you're attacking media hypocrisy and this is one of your preferred sources, you are a joke. I couldn't come up with a better example of pure propaganda if I tried. Edited July 1, 2017 by HappyDays
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 Okay but the Trump administration so far has been just as pro-war as the Obama administration. Obama pardoned the military leaker from spending the rest of his life in prison, can you imagine Trump doing something like that? So it is not clear to me how this post shows that Trump and Obama are on the same level. Trump is like every right-wing stereotype of Obama packaged into one little orange man. When Obama was president right wing media actually complained that Obama golfed too much. Can you believe that? In retrospect isn't it so utterly ridiculous? Breitbart is a popular source around here. So while you're all claiming that the media is dishonest hypocrites think about these images: The Melania dress in question cost $51,000. But people posting this website as a source want to claim the media is unfair to Trump. Trump brings it all on himself. There are ways to make scandals go away, to push public opinion in your favor. Trump is intent on having the last word in everything. He is like no president we have had in 100 years because he responds to every little criticism. He is even now blocking some people and groups on Twitter. Obama, or Bush, didn't take time to do crap like that because for all their faults they actually governed our nation. You know what, the text from those Breitbart articles is too hilarious to not post: I mean come on. If you're attacking media hypocrisy and this is one of your preferred sources, you are a joke. I couldn't come up with a better example of pure propaganda if I tried. What if you're attacking media hypocrisy and it's not one of your preferred sources?
B-Man Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 ASSOCIATED PRESS: TELLING THE TRUTH IS “MISLEADING” In Washington-speak, an increase that is less than some hypothetical alternative is a “cut.” Today’s Associated Press “fact check” insists that Washington’s favorite dodge be enthroned as the only way to talk about spending. The AP criticizes this tweet by President Trump, which it concedes is entirely correct: The Democrats howled that the GOP Senate bill “slashes” Medicaid spending. Trump accurately pointed out that on the contrary, Medicaid spending will grow under the Senate plan. The AP admits this is true. Nevertheless, it headlines: “AP FACT CHECK: When a swoopy line on a chart misleads.” President Donald Trump has been spread [sic] around a chart purportedly showing Medicaid spending rising under the Republican health legislation. According to the raw numbers, that’s true. Then why the “purportedly”? But an AP Fact Check finds that the bill would inflict deep cuts in the program by slowing Medicaid’s projected growth. If you think that “slowing…projected growth” constitutes “inflict[ing] deep cuts,” you qualify as a D.C. Democrat. But for the AP to claim that it is “misleading” to point out that the “raw numbers” will rise is absurd. I give the AP four Pinocchios. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/07/associated-press-telling-the-truth-is-misleading.php
IDBillzFan Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 Statements like these make you lose all credibility with me. And yes, Buftex's posts are more rational than yours. Pointing to Clinton and Obama constantly makes you look like you are grasping at straws. The media keeps unfairly attacking me for no reason. Did I do that right? Fortunately for me, I could give a rat's ass how much credibility I carry with you. I don't even know who the hell you are, why would I care what you think of me? To your latter point, I point to Clinton and Obama whenever another lefty whines how Trump is the worst (fill in the blank) ever when it comes to president. The dude is a complete fool, and I cringe every time he speaks about anything, because he's completely incoherent. But as I've mentioned before, I'll take his incoherence over the blatant money-laundering property-grabbing leave-our-people-for-dead stupidity that Obama and Clinton provided. This you can not deny. I mean, YOU can because you already think Buftex is rational and coherent. But most people are happy to be rid of Barry and Clinton. Trump just won't shut up long enough for people to realize it. Breitbart is a popular source around here. Breitbart was a very popular source around here when Andrew was alive. Today it battles with INFOWARS for its lack of credibility and value.
gatorbait Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 But most people are happy to be rid of Barry and Clinton. Trump just won't shut up long enough for people to realize it. Most people like 40% of the nation? Are you serious? Most people wish anyone but Trump was in office. The Clinton's yes, no one wants them in office or the public anymore, but you are wrong about Obama.
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