DC Tom Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: That is a heady brew of third-grade playground insults. 2
Rob's House Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 29 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: The gaslighting continues. This has been disproven by three different federal investigations. Three. Yet Joe is not an honest person. Nor is NBC a legit newsource. Joe is as sleazy as anyone in news media. The guy creeps me out whenever I see him talk. It would not surprise me at all to learn that he's a psychopath. I suspect the same is true of Adam Schiff as well. I have no trouble picturing him running a Soviet gulag. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 Just now, Rob's House said: Joe is as sleazy as anyone in news media. The guy creeps me out whenever I see him talk. It would not surprise me at all to learn that he's a psychopath. I suspect the same is true of Adam Schiff as well. I have no trouble picturing him running a Soviet gulag. Joe changed once they found the dead girl in his office. ... Kind of as if it was part of a control/blackmail op. ***************** Good for the Trump team. 3
Rob's House Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Joe changed once they found the dead girl in his office. ... Kind of as if it was part of a control/blackmail op. I read an interesting piece that put forth the theory that having a hidden scandal in your past is more likely to enhance one's political/public career because the power players that put politicians/pundits in their places know they can control them. I always discounted the theory of a shadow government pulling the strings, but the more I learn the more plausible it seems. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Rob's House said: I read an interesting piece that put forth the theory that having a hidden scandal in your past is more likely to enhance one's political/public career because the power players that put politicians/pundits in their places know they can control them. I always discounted the theory of a shadow government pulling the strings, but the more I learn the more plausible it seems. It's entirely true. This document all but proves it: https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf Particularly pages 80-85ish. Consider that information and the voting record of someone like say, Justice Roberts.
row_33 Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Rob's House said: I read an interesting piece that put forth the theory that having a hidden scandal in your past is more likely to enhance one's political/public career because the power players that put politicians/pundits in their places know they can control them. I always discounted the theory of a shadow government pulling the strings, but the more I learn the more plausible it seems. they want smart people who learn to accept two different lives and personalities in their own brain its not for everyone, have to show that insane desire for power with a lot of hatefulness jammed inside
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 20 hours ago, row_33 said: Good thing nobody watched it in the first place ...HUH?.....gaffe cost them 25% of their viewership.......so they're down to three........
row_33 Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...HUH?.....gaffe cost them 25% of their viewership.......so they're down to three........ like they seriously tell themselves that people with a job and brain will sit there and pay attention to their crap for 15 solid minutes of their day? Just now, Deranged Rhino said: They have already written the total hit piece on the man, why pretend anything will even be remotely fair? 1
Rob's House Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: they want smart people who learn to accept two different lives and personalities in their own brain its not for everyone, have to show that insane desire for power with a lot of hatefulness jammed inside The hatefulness part is real and disturbing. I've been reading about the Bolshevik revolution, and the utter hatred for, and brutality toward those whose only crime, often times, was philosophical disagreement, is so dark and disturbing. I see that same hatred manifesting itself in ways I would not have dreamed could happen here. Totalitarians don't seek to improve the condition of the workers, they seek to control and exploit them to elevate themselves as the ruling class. The talk of the workers' plight is marketing/propaganda similar to WMDs as the reason to invade Iraq, the sinking of the Lusitania to enter WWI, or global warming as a reason to enact global taxes. I understand why they want power, and kill/suppress those who are seen as obstacles, but the genuine hatred for people who don't want to be slaves perplexes me. 1 1
row_33 Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rob's House said: The hatefulness part is real and disturbing. I've been reading about the Bolshevik revolution, and the utter hatred for, and brutality toward those whose only crime, often times, was philosophical disagreement, is so dark and disturbing. I see that same hatred manifesting itself in ways I would not have dreamed could happen here. Totalitarians don't seek to improve the condition of the workers, they seek to control and exploit them to elevate themselves as the ruling class. The talk of the workers' plight is marketing/propaganda similar to WMDs as the reason to invade Iraq, the sinking of the Lusitania to enter WWI, or global warming as a reason to enact global taxes. I understand why they want power, and kill/suppress those who are seen as obstacles, but the genuine hatred for people who don't want to be slaves perplexes me. Without even a pretend moral code of rule of law or a religion they go solely by their emotions and resentments built up over decades 2
B-Man Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 WHAT’S THE PROBLEM? BLOOMBERG NEWS IS COVERING MIKE BLOOMBERG THE SAME WAY CBSABCNBCPBSCNNWPNYT COVERED HILLARY AND OBAMA: CNN, FNC Rip Bloomberg News Covering for Boss in 2020. . 1
Rob's House Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, row_33 said: Without even a pretend moral code of rule of law or a religion they go solely by their emotions and resentments built up over decades That's one reason it is painfully ironic to hear leftists decrying the abandonment of the rule of law. First, because they don't know what it means, and secondly, because they are steadfastly opposed to it. Rule of man might well be the single most important and fundamental aspect of their ideology. 1
row_33 Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rob's House said: That's one reason it is painfully ironic to hear leftists decrying the abandonment of the rule of law. First, because they don't know what it means, and secondly, because they are steadfastly opposed to it. Rule of man might well be the single most important and fundamental aspect of their ideology. helps to have even the remotest of religious upbringing to try to ground someone in their adult years tossing all history and writings and learning of the best minds into the trash leads to.... well... this kind of culture... Edited December 2, 2019 by row_33 1
row_33 Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 ——— Watched an All in the Family on the weekend and Archie and Mike are having a sit down Archie agrees things are troubling and asks Mike what his generation’s solutions or plans are and Mike says they don’t need them because Archie’s generation is to blame yup, thought so....even 50 years ago....
Rob's House Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: helps to have even the remotest of religious upbringing to try to ground someone in their adult years tossing all history and writings and learning of the best minds into the trash leads to.... well... this kind of culture... In my younger years I rebelled against religion, and found it perplexing that those who seemed most grounded in reality disproportionately held an unquestioning belief in a deity whose very existence was substantiated only by the ancient texts of a primitive society. It was not until many years later that I realized why. I attribute part to the inherent human need for purpose that is largely provided by religion, but is often substituted with political ideology by the irreligious. I think your observation about having a moral grounding outside of one's own whims may be even more significant.
row_33 Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rob's House said: In my younger years I rebelled against religion, and found it perplexing that those who seemed most grounded in reality disproportionately held an unquestioning belief in a deity whose very existence was substantiated only by the ancient texts of a primitive society. It was not until many years later that I realized why. I attribute part to the inherent human need for purpose that is largely provided by religion, but is often substituted with political ideology by the irreligious. I think your observation about having a moral grounding outside of one's own whims may be even more significant. I would expect rebellion in one’s early years, it was kind of strange watching my peers accept things without a battle so what is reality, your parents and school and people who honestly care about you ?
/dev/null Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 37 minutes ago, Rob's House said: The hatefulness part is real and disturbing. I've been reading about the Bolshevik revolution, and the utter hatred for, and brutality toward those whose only crime, often times, was philosophical disagreement, is so dark and disturbing. I see that same hatred manifesting itself in ways I would not have dreamed could happen here. Have you read up on the French Revolution and the Jacobians? Quite a similiarty with modern Progressives trying to erase history and change the language and even their calendar to suit their ideology 1
row_33 Posted December 2, 2019 Posted December 2, 2019 Just now, /dev/null said: Have you read up on the French Revolution and the Jacobians? Quite a similiarty with modern Progressives trying to erase history and change the language and even their calendar to suit their ideology Theory is fun and games, the reality of gaining the acceptance of real people is hard
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