Koko78 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I wouldn't agree with his assessment of her comment. She was pretty clearly talking about exposing (to "f*ck sh*t up") abuses of power by anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Koko78 said: I wouldn't agree with his assessment of her comment. She was pretty clearly talking about exposing (to "f*ck sh*t up") abuses of power by anyone. True. But it's empty words when she's unwilling to hold the previous administration's feet to the fire in her never Trumpist coverage of the past two years. ********************************************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: True. But it's empty words when she's unwilling to hold the previous administration's feet to the fire in her never Trumpist coverage of the past two years. ********************************************** The report said 64% blame the media and 56% blame Trump. I'm no math guy, but... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koko78 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 28 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: True. But it's empty words when she's unwilling to hold the previous administration's feet to the fire in her never Trumpist coverage of the past two years. ********************************************** Oh, I'm not excusing her bullschiff since going to NPCNN - she's still a complete hypocrite. The assessment of her comment was simply inaccurate. And yes, even though she's a fake conservative, I'd still do her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 hours ago, LABillzFan said: The report said 64% blame the media and 56% blame Trump. I'm no math guy, but... Common Core, man. Common Core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 hours ago, LABillzFan said: The report said 64% blame the media and 56% blame Trump. I'm no math guy, but... I was going to say it's the media trying to make it seem like its closer, but in turn proves the point of the survey, but then I saw it is the federalist and it is likely a typo and should be 46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Dangerous stuff going on there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Bray Wyatt said: I was going to say it's the media trying to make it seem like its closer, but in turn proves the point of the survey, but then I saw it is the federalist and it is likely a typo and should be 46 46? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: 46? I wish I could say I did that on purpose as a joke! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: She's far nicer that I am. I would simply let him know that I cannot stop them releasing my information, but that if anything happens to my family, I will hold him personally responsible, and that any harm will be revisited on him and his tenfold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 36 minutes ago, Koko78 said: She's far nicer that I am. I would simply let him know that I cannot stop them releasing my information, but that if anything happens to my family, I will hold him personally responsible, and that any harm will be revisited on him and his tenfold. Why can't we doxxx these reporters? I'm sure it won't be long before reporters are doxxxed. Their numbers and information are everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 10:49 PM, LSHMEAB said: Honest question here. How do you guys feel about Trump's proposal to circumvent the 14th amendment? I don't believe the 14th amendment grants citizenship to the children of illegal aliens, or even legal aliens who are not permanent residents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Rob's House said: I don't believe the 14th amendment grants citizenship to the children of illegal aliens, or even legal aliens who are not permanent residents. Again...the 14th may not. 8 USC 1401, however, clearly does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 8 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said: I was going to say it's the media trying to make it seem like its closer, but in turn proves the point of the survey, but then I saw it is the federalist and it is likely a typo and should be 46 You gave 110% on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 On October 30, 2018 at 10:49 PM, LSHMEAB said: Honest question here. How do you guys feel about Trump's proposal to circumvent the 14th amendment? I think we're long past due, as a nation, to have a serious legal discussion of the 14th, and I think this prompts it. I think you're aware that the 14th wasn't intended to be used the way it is in your argument, and an Origionalist interpretation would require reading the purpose of the Amendment into the understanding of the text. That said, if necessary, I don't think it would be an insurmountable hurdle to amend the Document to disallow birthright citizenship for the children of illegal aliens. (I'm of the opinion that it should be done away with completely for everyone.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said: I was going to say it's the media trying to make it seem like its closer, but in turn proves the point of the survey, but then I saw it is the federalist and it is likely a typo and should be 46 No. It's not. They asked respondents two separate questions. Generally, would you say President Trump has done more to unite or divide the country since he took office? 30% unite , 56% divide, rest undecided Generally, would you say the national news media has done more to unite or divide the country since President Trump took office? 17% unite, 64% divide, rest undecided. What's interesting is 44% of male democrats and 47% of female democrats said they've done more to divide the country. I'm guessing they have Fox News in mind or left leading MSM outlets who've hurt democrats since the election focusing on Russia and porn star scandals. https://morningconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/181047_crosstabs_POLITICO_RVs_v1_AP-2.pdf Edited November 2, 2018 by Doc Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 4 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I think we're long past due, as a nation, to have a serious legal discussion of the 14th, and I think this prompts it. I think you're aware that the 14th wasn't intended to be used the way it is in your argument, and an Origionalist interpretation would require reading the purpose of the Amendment into the understanding of the text. That said, if necessary, I don't think it would be an insurmountable hurdle to amend the Document to disallow birthright citizenship for the children of illegal aliens. (I'm of the opinion that it should be done away with completely for everyone.) Gun grabbers apply the same argument to #2A That said, I think we are long overdue for a Constitutional Convention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, /dev/null said: Gun grabbers apply the same argument to #2A That said, I think we are long overdue for a Constitutional Convention No. Never. NC is doing a bunch of ***** on the ballet to amend the Constitution. ***** that *****. Learn to figure out what you have before you go throwing more ***** on it. They have, of all people ::: Kelsey Grammer! doing spots for Marcy's law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, DC Tom said: Again...the 14th may not. 8 USC 1401, however, clearly does. I don't think it does. I'm not familiar with the legislative history, but the relevant language mirrors that of the 14th amendment. It comes down to what is meant by jurisdiction. It appears to mean complete jurisdiction, like not having allegiance to any foreign country. The alternative interpretation violates canons of statutory interpretation. It reads a clause out of existence and renders an absurd outcome. Edited November 2, 2018 by Rob's House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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