row_33 Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 GOP is liked when it's basically liberal and docile and doesn't get in the way of the latest feckless liberal disaster inflicted for no good reason at all
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Foxx said: you can't handle the truth. https://townhall.com/columnists/evansayet/2017/07/13/he-fights-n2354580 !@#$ yes! This is what I'm saying. We should be in no-holds-barred battle with the left, it's a zero-sum game, and there can be no compromise. The time for civil discourse is LONG past.
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, joesixpack said: !@#$ yes! This is what I'm saying. We should be in no-holds-barred battle with the left, it's a zero-sum game, and there can be no compromise. The time for civil discourse is LONG past. Nowhere in the article does it suggest putting journalists who have committed no crimes on lists and jailing them, Joe. You're no different than your enemies.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, TakeYouToTasker said: Nowhere in the article does it suggest putting journalists who have committed no crimes on lists and jailing them, Joe. You're no different than your enemies. You're right, tasker. You're ALWAYS right. You know, there's more than one way to purge bad actors. If they have press access to government, remove it. No need to jail them if you can silence them instead. The longer we allow THEM to shape the (false) narrative without any kind of push-back, the more damage they do. This is an indisputable fact. You're ok with it. I'm not.
IDBillzFan Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: The longer we allow THEM to shape the (false) narrative without any kind of push-back, the more damage they do. This is an indisputable fact. You're ok with it. I'm not. You need them, though. They provide the visible incompetence and hypocrisy of the left, which is what leads thinking people to vote against anyone under the DNC bannner.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 1 minute ago, LABillzFan said: You need them, though. They provide the visible incompetence and hypocrisy of the left, which is what leads thinking people to vote against anyone under the DNC bannner. Problem: More than half this country aren't "thinking people." 1 minute ago, LABillzFan said: You need them, though. They provide the visible incompetence and hypocrisy of the left, which is what leads thinking people to vote against anyone under the DNC bannner. Problem: More than half this country aren't "thinking people."
reddogblitz Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 On 6/9/2018 at 10:55 AM, B-Man said: As noted above, President Trump had some harsh criticism for CNN and others in the US media during an impromptu press conference with some reporters at the G7 in Canada. CNN analyst and Esquire political correspondent Ryan Lizza thought Trump’s criticism of the U.S. media in Quebec was beyond the pale: .. Dixie Chicks got annihilated for this. You can't dog out America on foreign soil LOL. Something we can all agree on.
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, joesixpack said: You're right, tasker. You're ALWAYS right. You know, there's more than one way to purge bad actors. If they have press access to government, remove it. No need to jail them if you can silence them instead. The longer we allow THEM to shape the (false) narrative without any kind of push-back, the more damage they do. This is an indisputable fact. You're ok with it. I'm not. I'm right when I'm right, Joe; it's just that in this case, contrasted with the wrongheadedness of your fascist preferences, it's much easier to see. The government should not be restricting the press, Joe. Or do you think Donald Trump is going to be President forever? Perhaps King? Or do you think that at some point people who might disagree with you may hold office again, and use the powers you've assigned to this President against you to silence dissenters? Is this a tool you think President Obama or a Hillary Clinton Presidency should have had? Or will you pass a law which draws distinctions between different political ideologies, creating a political apartheid state where those with views differing from you don't enjoy having their rights protected? How does this play out in your warped dystopian world view? Edited June 15, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, TakeYouToTasker said: The government should not be restricting the press, Joe. Or do you think Donald Trump is going to be President forever? Perhaps King? Or do you think that at some point people who might disagree with you may hold office again, and use the powers you've assigned to this President against you to silence dissenters? Is this a tool you think President Obama or a Hillary Clinton Presidency should have had? Or will you pass a law which draws distinctions between different political ideologies, creating a political apartheid state where those with views differing from you don't enjoy having their rights protected? How does this play out in your warped dystopian world view? Does the government have an obligation to give EVERY press outlet access to the white house? To Congress? No, no they don't. They can and do shut out various organizations. I realize it's hard to see from up on your high horse, but taking the high road here isn't working. And it hasn't for, oh, 20 years or so. That article was right on. In my ideal world, organizations like the NYT, CNN and WaPo who get caught in blatant lying should have their credentials revoked for some specified period. Ideally, that would force some of them to clean up or go out of business.
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Does the government have an obligation to give EVERY press outlet access to the white house? To Congress? No, no they don't. They can and do shut out various organizations. I realize it's hard to see from up on your high horse, but taking the high road here isn't working. And it hasn't for, oh, 20 years or so. That article was right on. In my ideal world, organizations like the NYT, CNN and WaPo who get caught in blatant lying should have their credentials revoked for some specified period. Ideally, that would force some of them to clean up or go out of business. You didn't answer my questions, Joe. Quite the opposite, you neatly avoided them. Again, you're advocating for state sanctioned press and speech. This cuts both ways. So, I'll ask a second time: Do you think Donald Trump is going to be President forever? Perhaps King? Or do you think that at some point people who might disagree with you may hold office again, and use the powers you've assigned to this President against you to silence dissenters? Is this a tool you think President Obama or a Hillary Clinton Presidency should have had? Or will you pass a law which draws distinctions between different political ideologies, creating a political apartheid state where those with views differing from you don't enjoy having their rights protected? How does this play out in your warped dystopian world view? 1
Albwan Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: Dixie Chicks got annihilated for this. You can't dog out America on foreign soil LOL. Something we can all agree on. You can when you're to the left, those guys have diplomatic immunity.
reddogblitz Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, Albwan said: You can when you're to the left, those guys have diplomatic immunity. Dixie Chicks didn't get away with it and they were perceived as liberals for Natalie's comments on "foreign soil".
Albwan Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I'm right when I'm right, Joe; it's just that in this case, contrasted with the wrongheadedness of your fascist preferences, it's much easier to see. The government should not be restricting the press, Joe. Or do you think Donald Trump is going to be President forever? Perhaps King? Or do you think that at some point people who might disagree with you may hold office again, and use the powers you've assigned to this President against you to silence dissenters? Is this a tool you think President Obama or a Hillary Clinton Presidency should have had? Or will you pass a law which draws distinctions between different political ideologies, creating a political apartheid state where those with views differing from you don't enjoy having their rights protected? How does this play out in your warped dystopian world view? lol.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said: You didn't answer my questions, Joe. Quite the opposite, you neatly avoided them. Again, you're advocating for state sanctioned press and speech. This cuts both ways. So, I'll ask a second time: Do you think Donald Trump is going to be President forever? Perhaps King? Or do you think that at some point people who might disagree with you may hold office again, and use the powers you've assigned to this President against you to silence dissenters? Is this a tool you think President Obama or a Hillary Clinton Presidency should have had? Or will you pass a law which draws distinctions between different political ideologies, creating a political apartheid state where those with views differing from you don't enjoy having their rights protected? How does this play out in your warped dystopian world view? I told you how it plays out in my vision. Get over yourself. Pardon the late response, power washing a gazebo. It’s a higher priority than this conversation.
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 6 hours ago, joesixpack said: I told you how it plays out in my vision. Get over yourself. Pardon the late response, power washing a gazebo. It’s a higher priority than this conversation. Joe, you should feel free to take as much time as you want between posts. Mussolini's trains ran on time at least. Just sayin'. The way this plays out in your vision is a child's vision of Christmas. Answer my questions please.
4merper4mer Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 3 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Joe, you should feel free to take as much time as you want between posts. Mussolini's trains ran on time at least. Just sayin'. The way this plays out in your vision is a child's vision of Christmas. Answer my questions please. Although I agree with you that uninviting these organizations to a conference is a bad idea, calling it a restriction on the press is a joke.
outsidethebox Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 4 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Joe, you should feel free to take as much time as you want between posts. Mussolini's trains ran on time at least. Just sayin'. The way this plays out in your vision is a child's vision of Christmas. Answer my questions please. Wow, I'm surprised you didn't go straight to Hitler! Is that what you call people who disagree with you? You're better than that TYTT! 1
Prickly Pete Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 13 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Dixie Chicks got annihilated for this. You can't dog out America on foreign soil LOL. Something we can all agree on. Yeah, nice try.
4merper4mer Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 25 minutes ago, westside said: Wow, I'm surprised you didn't go straight to Hitler! Is that what you call people who disagree with you? You're better than that TYTT! Oooof. Prepare for a barrage of platitudes, nine syllable words with mostly y's for the vowels, a history lesson right from a textbook and plenty of judgement. Phillip Barbay lives. 1
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 3 hours ago, westside said: Wow, I'm surprised you didn't go straight to Hitler! Is that what you call people who disagree with you? You're better than that TYTT! Again, we're talking about stifling political dissent by creating an official ministry of information who directs and determines what is true and not true, and punishes news outlets and reporters accordingly. That is actual fascism.
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