The Media's Portrayal of Trump and His Presidency

[BeginnersMind]

13 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

Again, I have criticized him here, I just don't go looking for shittomake up. You do.

 

Me either. The president thinks the Derby decision was due to political correctness. 

 

Kooky talk. 

[3rdnlng]

So, you bring up his comments regarding Notre Dame Cathedral and clearing of brush in the forests? Sounds a little contrived.

[BeginnersMind]

56 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

So, you bring up his comments regarding Notre Dame Cathedral and clearing of brush in the forests? Sounds a little contrived.

 

Just other examples of him talking out of his ass. I don’t care that he had an opinion of the Derby. Spouting off is absurd. But tying it to politics? Idiotic. Embarrassing for a world leader. 

 

I won’t apologize for having standards for my president. It’s ok to see his flaws. Take off the Trump goggles bud. 

Edited May 6, 2019 by BeginnersMind

[3rdnlng]

33 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Just other examples of him talking out of his ass. 

 

I won’t apologize for having standards for my president. It’s ok to see his flaws. Take off the Trump goggles. 

So, lamenting the Notre Dame Cathedral fire and giving the Church and France his condolences was talking out his ass? Clearing brush in forests to mitigate fire loss is not good policy? Stop with the crap about me worshipping Trump. A person can agree with his policies and feel that he gets criticized unmercifully without liking everything about him.

[BeginnersMind]

3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

So, lamenting the Notre Dame Cathedral fire and giving the Church and France his condolences was talking out his ass? Clearing brush in forests to mitigate fire loss is not good policy? Stop with the crap about me worshipping Trump. A person can agree with his policies and feel that he gets criticized unmercifully without liking everything about him.

 

He was giving firefighting “advice,” given his deep experience, I’m sure. That’s the idiocy. Maybe leave it to the experts and stick with what you said, the condolences. 

 

And here he said that the Derby decision was due to political correctness. In favor of what? A dark horse? He’s an idiot at times. Say it if you can. 

 

You love you some Trump. 

Edited May 6, 2019 by BeginnersMind

[SoCal Deek]

51 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Just other examples of him talking out of his ass. 

 

I won’t apologize for having standards for my president. It’s ok to see his flaws. Take off the Trump goggles. 

As a guy from California who has lost a home to a wildfire I think Trump was more correct when talking out of his ass than you’ll ever be. The most recent fires were NOT caused by a warming planet! They were the result of improperly maintained power lines. 

[BeginnersMind]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

 The most recent fires were NOT caused by a warming planet! They were the result of improperly maintained power lines. 

 

Thanks for chiming in with this irrelevant observation, Captain Obvious.  

Edited May 6, 2019 by BeginnersMind

[SoCal Deek]

5 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Thanks for chiming in with this irrelevant observation, Captain Obvious.  

You seemed to be espousing some personal knowledge of california wildfires. I thought I’d help clear things up as a guy who’s lived through them. 

[3rdnlng]

2 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Thanks for chiming in with this irrelevant observation, Captain Obvious.  

You're an idiot. I can see why some people here despise you to the extent they do.

 

Trump was absolutely right in his observations regarding the Derby. In today's climate there was no way they could allow a horse named "Maximum Security" to win. There's a fight to denigrate whites and push for diversity. Of course they had to make the dark horse win.

[Deranged Rhino]

4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

You seemed to be espousing some personal knowledge of california wildfires. I thought I’d help clear things up as a guy who’s lived through them. 

 

Ben Franklin/BM only believes and listens to "experts" and "authorities" (of which he chooses -- poorly) to inform his opinions. He does not think for himself (ever). He does not converse honestly (ever). He's not here for any other reason than to slide the board and divide people. He's a bad poster, a worse person, and a waste of carbon. 

 

You'd be better off laughing at his idiocy or outright ignoring him imo. 

[B-Man]

The mainstream media are so deeply in bed with the Democrats that they risk having what they do to each other be mistaken for pornography. A recent instance of such mutually assured gratification is E.J. Dionne's April 24 column, "Will Trump and the Supreme Court Tear Our Democracy Apart?" The esteemed author, formerly called a "radical centrist" by Time magazine, has graduated to being just a plain and simple “radical.”

 

In the wake of Democrats’ failure to establish that President Trump is a threat to America because he is a Russian stooge, Dionne proposes instead that he is a threat to the U.S. Constitution, and that somehow now the conservative majority on the Supreme Court are his stooges! Talk about anti-Trump hysteria!

 

“Our nation faces a constitutional conflagration,” warns Dionne, “and President Trump is not the only actor willing to put personal and partisan interests above the preservation of our system of self-rule. Five conservative justices on the United States Supreme Court signaled clearly ... that they are willing to allow the administration to act lawlessly in distorting the 2020 Census and thus representation in Congress to benefit the party that placed them on the court.”

 

So what is this horrible “lawless” act that Dionne claims will “tear our democracy apart”? Is Trump doing something hateful such as only counting white people? Is he going to use the census to target Democrats as his enemies? Will he change the name to the Trump Census in order to provoke boycotts and riots?

 

No, none of these things. Instead, President Trump, through his commerce secretary, is asking people who respond to the census whether they are U.S. citizens. Could there be a thinner basis on which to charge a president, not to mention the Supreme Court, with lawlessness? Mind you, the court hasn't even ruled on the issue yet, but even if it does, it is the justices’ prerogative to say what the law allows, not E.J. Dionne’s. Yet according to him, Trump's "brazen attacks on American institutions and the court's partisanship" are both the results of what he calls "a radicalization of American conservatism." In what is a classic case of projection, he says that "Republicans and conservative ideologues — including the ones wearing the robes of justice — are destabilizing our institutions in pursuit of power.”

 

Pardon me, but aren't the Democrats the ones who tried to weaponize the IRS to halt the growth of conservative political movements? Aren't the Democrats the ones who engineered the Russia collusion hoax by funding the fake Steele dossier that lit the slow-burning fuse that led to the Mueller probe? Isn't pursuit of power the only explanation for the Democratic insistence on trying to destroy this president by any means necessary?

 

{snip}

 

The only thing “brazen” about the census controversy is the effort of Democrats to politicize it. What Dionne and other liberal activists claim to fear is that illegal immigrants will refuse to participate in the count because they worry that they will be deported if they answer the citizenship question.

 

How ridiculous. If illegal immigrants don’t have to fear being deported when they admit in court that they are here illegally, if they don’t have to worry about the Border Patrol or ICE or Homeland Security deporting them, if they can sign up for benefits at all manner of government agencies without fear of being deported, then why exactly are they going to tremble at the sight of a U.S. Census Bureau worker? Moreover, the proposed question does not even ask for legal status, just whether you are a citizen or not, so there is no way to discern from the question whether the respondent has a green card or not.

 

The dirty little secret of the census is that it gives a huge amount of power to non-citizens, so illegal immigrants actually have an incentive to participate in it. That’s because representation in the U.S. House is divvied up based on how many people live in each state, without regard to citizenship status. The census results also affect representation in the Electoral College as well as how federal funds are distributed.

 

 

More at the link:  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/05/06/census_isnt_a_threat_to_the_nation_anti-trump_hysteria_is_140245.html

 

 

 

 

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[Deranged Rhino]

 

[DC Tom]

12 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

Gosh, I wonder what the purpose of running stories that Trump might not concede the election, while simultaneously saying "We don't need to concede elections!" might be...  

[BeginnersMind]

3 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

In today's climate there was no way they could allow a horse named "Maximum Security" to win. There's a fight to denigrate whites and push for diversity. Of course they had to make the dark horse win.

 

It’s early but you’ve got an inside track on dumbest post of the week. 

[BeginnersMind]

3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

He's a bad poster, a worse person,

 

You know so much about me?

 

You know what I don’t do? Wish slow deaths on people. What horrible person would do that, eh? 

 

3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

You'd be better off laughing at his idiocy or outright ignoring him imo. 

 

I can’t post without you reflexively responding to anything I write. You already make up lies about me being paid to be here. Now you stalk my posts. You follow me like a poor lost little puppy. Take your own advice. Deep breaths and try to let me go if you can. 

 

You’re a strange lonely guy, but maybe look for company elsewhere sailor. 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

Thread for consideration

[3rdnlng]

58 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

It’s early but you’ve got an inside track on dumbest post of the week. 

Not only are you the equivalent of dog**** that I stepped on that doesn't want to come off my shoe but a low IQ poster, incapable of coherent thought and doomed to mediocrity but worse, you have no sense of humor.

[reddogblitz]

On ‎5‎/‎4‎/‎2019 at 5:33 PM, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

A free people have the right to hear viewpoints originating outside the US as well as world news.

 

I agree in principle. In a perfect world without foreign governments and other bad actors trying to manipulate our citizens to sow division and perhaps even sway the outcome of or elections.  This is information warfare. I've read of it for years and it has been around, but it has now been bumped to a whole new level.  We must react accordingly. 

 

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Information warfare (IW) is a concept involving the battlespace use and management of information and communication technology (ICT) in pursuit of a competitive advantage over an opponent. Information warfare is the manipulation of information trusted by a target without the target's awareness, so that the target will make decisions against their interest but in the interest of the one conducting information warfare.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_warfare

 

Sounds like the 2016 election to me.

 

I don't think we can depend on Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter and Google to weed out all the offending stuff and protect us from foreign disinformation.

 

Until we can come up with a better way to fight this, just shut it all down 6 months before the election.  Let us Americans have an internal discussion about our own election.  I know Zuckeberg can do this because he censors things in countries like China and not elsewhere. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/23/facebook-secret-software-censor-user-posts-china

 

You could still read foreign news sources and email with your rooskie friends and relatives.  They just can't push to us.

 

I could do it in 100 lines of code or less:

 

if(ipAddress not in usListOfIPs)
{
 tweet >> /dev/null;
}

[BeginnersMind]

1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:

Not only are you the equivalent of dog**** that I stepped on that doesn't want to come off my shoe but a low IQ poster, incapable of coherent thought and doomed to mediocrity but worse, you have no sense of humor.

 

Humor is “funny.” 

 

I already used the dark horse reference. Copying my line doesn’t make you funny. Just unoriginal. 

[Deranged Rhino]

5 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I agree in principle. In a perfect world without foreign governments and other bad actors trying to manipulate our citizens to sow division and perhaps even sway the outcome of or elections.  This is information warfare. I've read of it for years and it has been around, but it has now been bumped to a whole new level.  We must react accordingly. 

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_warfare

 

Sounds like the 2016 election to me.

 

I don't think we can depend on Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter and Google to weed out all the offending stuff and protect us from foreign disinformation.

 

Until we can come up with a better way to fight this, just shut it all down 6 months before the election.  Let us Americans have an internal discussion about our own election.  I know Zuckeberg can do this because he censors things in countries like China and not elsewhere. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/23/facebook-secret-software-censor-user-posts-china

 

You could still read foreign news sources and email with your rooskie friends and relatives.  They just can't push to us.

 

I could do it in 100 lines of code or less:

 

if(ipAddress not in usListOfIPs)
{
 tweet >> /dev/null;
}

 

The ONLY way to combat information warfare is to learn how to hone your own individual discernment. It's hard, laborious work. It requires time that most of us just do not have in our day to day lives with work, family, and other responsibilities -- but it's the ONLY way to move forward in a free society. 

 

If we are forced to rely upon censorship or algorithms to do our heavy lifting, we are helping the enemies of free thought and liberty. Doubly so with tech giants (who are to a company tied directly to the USIC). We just survived (barely) a three year period where our own intelligence services were waging a disinformation war against its own people. Do we really think the wise move is to say to the very same people who just tried to deceive the public at large, "here, tell us what's good and bad information because we're too lazy to do the homework ourselves"? 

 

That's a recipe for tyranny.