TakeYouToTasker Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, ALF said: The EO still has a lot of power even if Congress is fragmented though. Why are you conflating the citizenry with Congress and/or the President? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 hour ago, ALF said: The EO still has a lot of power even if Congress is fragmented though. HAHA. A court just told Trump he couldn't cancel an Obama EO (DACA) without proving good reason for doing so. Trump should give that court the middle finger and tell it to go !@#$ themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 4 hours ago, ALF said: Republicans control the country politically, why still so angry ? That actually sounded like a calm, reasonable question. Why would you suggest he was angry? That makes absolutely no sense. Explain where the anger was in his question. We'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 hour ago, LABillzFan said: That actually sounded like a calm, reasonable question. Why would you suggest he was angry? That makes absolutely no sense. Explain where the anger was in his question. We'll wait. I was the one who asked the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, ALF said: I was the one who asked the question So, you state a premise that you think is factual but when questioned you refuse to back it up, insisting that the other person answer your (maybe) false premise? OK, I'll play. Do you beat your wife often? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 20 hours ago, DC Tom said: It's satire. It's no big deal... ...except the left - NYT included - have gone to great lengths to define satire as socially unacceptable to the point of unemployment and social ostracism, so they absolutely deserve to be hoist on their own petard. But THIS satire is not permitted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) The left absolutely brought this NYT situation on themselves by embracing the notion that every female accuser is to be believed, that the accused is to be ostracized, and that political correctness was more important than common sense. This was clearly satire. Sarah Jeong is not a racist. But their concerted effort to dismiss nuance in such instances was always going to come back to bite them in the a*s. Context and nuance are everything in matters of sexual harassment and race. When they threw Al Franken under the bus for a couple of stupid pictures, I knew we were in trouble. I was watching Frasier last night and it dawned on me that a harmless joke wouldn't be tolerated today on television from a respected character. Martin made reference to the wife of his former black partner having a big a*s. How can you not expect a backlash when you force people to walk on eggshells as not to dare offend? By the way, Kelsey Grammer is like the only funny conservative. Humor is not a strong trait of the right. I guess Trump has pretty strong comedic timing but I don't think he's ideologically anything other than self serving. Edited August 4, 2018 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: The left absolutely brought this NYT situation on themselves by embracing the notion that every female accuser is to be believed, that the accused is to be ostracized, and that political correctness was more important than common sense. This was clearly satire. Sarah Jeong is not a racist. But their concerted effort to dismiss nuance in such instances was always going to come back to bite them in the a*s. Context and nuance are everything in matters of sexual harassment and race. When they threw Al Franken under the bus for a couple of stupid pictures, I knew we were in trouble. I was watching Frasier last night and it dawned on me that a harmless joke wouldn't be tolerated today. Martin made reference to the wife to his former black partner's wife having a big a*s. How can you not expect a backlash when you try to force people to walk on eggshells not to offend. By the way, Kelsey Grammer is like the only funny conservative. Humor is not a strong trait of the right. I guess Trump has pretty strong comedic timing but I don't think he's ideologically anything other than self serving. 2 If she's not a racist, she sure is giving a GREAT imitation of being one: Read that tweet stream. He has hundreds her white-hating tweets from 2013 and 2014. Months and months and months of angry, inciteful Tweets where she goes so far as to advocate genocide of white people. That is not harmless. That is not satire. That is not reactionary. That is a deep, disturbing hate of a group of people based solely on the color of their skin. ie, racism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: If she's not a racist, she sure is giving a GREAT imitation of being one: Read that tweet stream. He has hundreds her white-hating tweets from 2013 and 2014. Months and months and months of angry, inciteful Tweets where she goes so far as to advocate genocide of white people. That is not harmless. That is not satire. That is not reactionary. That is a deep, disturbing hate of a group of people based solely on the color of their skin. ie, racism I read all the tweets. She was trolling bigots. Kind of a wanna be Sasha Baron Cohen schtick. I understand what she was trying to do, and the responses are indeed funny. Nevertheless, zero tolerance policies should be administered to all if that's the game we're playing. My hope is that common sense prevails and people will recognize how silly some of these stances are, but that is unlikely. Very unlikely. The notion that one cannot be "racist" against whites because of power structure strikes me as absurd. I can't really perform the necessary mental gymnastics for that one. I think we can agree on that. Edited August 4, 2018 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 4, 2018 Author Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 hours ago, ALF said: I was the one who asked the question No I asked you a question if you had a problem with people praying in public. The fact that they believe they need to put on protective armor to keep from getting bludgeoned to death is an indictment on people that you think are perfectly reasonable. You keep flooding this site with red herrings and superfluous tangential posts all the while pretending to seek some enlightenment on the issues of the day. When shone the light you claim to get it, only to throw the lie to that with your next post. WTH did your post have to do with the title of this thread? You can do better. And for the record, I’m not angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Okay, not one more second or penny spent on the NYT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 58 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I read all the tweets. She was trolling bigots. Kind of a wanna be Sasha Baron Cohen schtick. I understand what she was trying to do, and the responses are indeed funny. Nevertheless, zero tolerance policies should be administered to all if that's the game we're playing. My hope is that common sense prevails and people will recognize how silly some of these stances are, but that is unlikely. Very unlikely. The notion that one cannot be "racist" against whites because of power structure strikes me as absurd. I can't really perform the necessary mental gymnastics for that one. I think we can agree on that. Borat is a toolI If may ling whoever wants to be like him, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: I read all the tweets. She was trolling bigots. Kind of a wanna be Sasha Baron Cohen schtick. I understand what she was trying to do, and the responses are indeed funny. Nevertheless, zero tolerance policies should be administered to all if that's the game we're playing. My hope is that common sense prevails and people will recognize how silly some of these stances are, but that is unlikely. Very unlikely. The notion that one cannot be "racist" against whites because of power structure strikes me as absurd. I can't really perform the necessary mental gymnastics for that one. I think we can agree on that. Lots of people troll bigots. I do. But if they're white, they get called racists for it. I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: This was clearly satire. Sarah Jeong is not a racist. It's impossible to be more wrong than your words above. 3 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: I read all the tweets. She was trolling bigots. Kind of a wanna be Sasha Baron Cohen schtick. Oh, damn. I was wrong. You COULD be more wrong. Watch the video below. Tell everyone how she was trolling in that speech. She's a racist. Period. That you would defend her says more about you than it does about anything else. Edited August 4, 2018 by LABillzFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 5 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: Sarah Jeong is not a racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 5 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: I read all the tweets. She was trolling bigots. Kind of a wanna be Sasha Baron Cohen schtick. I understand what she was trying to do, and the responses are indeed funny. Nevertheless, zero tolerance policies should be administered to all if that's the game we're playing. My hope is that common sense prevails and people will recognize how silly some of these stances are, but that is unlikely. Very unlikely. The notion that one cannot be "racist" against whites because of power structure strikes me as absurd. I can't really perform the necessary mental gymnastics for that one. I think we can agree on that. Wanna judge if it’s racist? Substitute black for white in all her tweets. I’m hoping she gets hers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Wanna judge if it’s racist? Substitute black for white in all her tweets. I’m hoping she gets hers. You just don't understand satire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Just now, LABillzFan said: You just don't understand satire. The !@#$ I don’t. I also understand hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Because the MSM just loves to report stuff like this. ? - sarcasm tag for those that didn't get it via the eye-roll emoji - (I am sure the SS is thrilled when he does impromptu meets and greets like this. ? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 9 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Because the MSM just loves to report stuff like this. ? - sarcasm tag for those that didn't get it via the eye-roll emoji - (I am sure the SS is thrilled when he does impromptu meets and greets like this. ? ) In that respect he hasn’t changed since becoming POTUS. He’d frequently walk around and be very open to meeting and greeting people on the street, even letting them take photos of them with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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