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Has there ever been a country on earth with a significant Muslim and Christian or Jewish population that has prospered without violence?

 

Yes, Lebanon before Islamists tore through it.

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Has there ever been a country on earth with a significant Muslim and Christian or Jewish population that has prospered without violence?

 

Israel has 2 million Arabs and 5 million Jews and given that concentration, seems to be fine.

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Yea the West Bank is just like Aruba.

 

?????

I said Israel not the West Bank.

 

There are 2 Million Arabs that live in Israel (Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, etc).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

 

 

 

According to Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics, the Arab population in 2013 was estimated at 1,658,000, representing 20.7% of the country's population.[2] The majority of these identify themselves as Arab or Palestinian by nationality and Israeli by citizenship.[6][7][8] Many have family ties to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, as well as to Palestinian refugees in Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon. Negev Bedouins and Druze tend to identify more as Israelis than other Arab citizens of Israel.[9][10][11][12]

Most of the Arabs living in East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights, occupied by Israel in the Six-Day War of 1967 and later annexed, were offered Israeli citizenship, but most have refused, not wanting to recognize Israel's claim to sovereignty. They became permanent residents instead.[13] They have the right to apply for citizenship, are entitled to municipal services, and have municipal voting rights.[14][

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I said Israel not the West Bank.

 

There are 2 Million Arabs that live in Israel (Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, etc).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

 

Sounds good. I've never been but some of my poker buddies who are Israeli have to go back from time to time because "those mf'ers are getting too close to my mothers house" Edited by Ryan L Billz
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Has there ever been a country on earth with a significant Muslim and Christian or Jewish population that has prospered without violence?

 

Define "significant."

 

Nigeria's almost evenly split, and does pretty well. Or did, until...Islamists.

 

And since you said "ever"...the Umayyad and Abbasid caliphates were the richest, most vibrant, most advanced cultures of their eras, in which Christians and Jews were not oppressed and made a very significant contribution.

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And since you said "ever"...the Umayyad and Abbasid caliphates were the richest, most vibrant, most advanced cultures of their eras, in which Christians and Jews were not oppressed and made a very significant contribution.

 

almost 1000 years ago. completely irrelevant.

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almost 1000 years ago. completely irrelevant.

 

He said "ever."

 

And it is at least passingly relevant, since the jackasses who want to "reestablish the caliphate" are talking about Abbasid caliphate, which they are clearly completely ignorant of.

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He said "ever."

 

And it is at least passingly relevant, since the jackasses who want to "reestablish the caliphate" are talking about Abbasid caliphate, which they are clearly completely ignorant of.

I did say ever because possibly there was a time when Muslims in large numbers co-existed well with Christians and Jews.

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I'm hesitant to post this guys stuff because he's associated with Alex Jones, and so snarky that it doesn't work well when trying to convince people to alter their opinions.

 

But it's laid out for anyone willing to watch.

 

The Swedish Gov. has such wacky policies, that they have to be cornered to concede anything might be at all amiss.

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This was interesting:

 

"For the sake of the American people,” Akesson and Karlsson wrote, “with whom we share so many strong historical and cultural ties, we can only hope that the leaders in Washington won’t make the same mistakes that our socialist and liberal politicians did.”

 

 

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/23/sweden-democrats-trump-was-right.html

 

Someone explain to me why the US (or any Western country) should accept mass immigration from Muslim countries?

 

There are islands throughout the Mediterranean that could be used to provide temporary relief for these people, and a country like Greece could use the billions (trillions?) of dollars of aid they would receive as payment.

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I'm hesitant to post this guys stuff because he's associated with Alex Jones, and so snarky that it doesn't work well when trying to convince people to alter their opinions.

 

I agree about this, but it's mostly because the left has made it fashionable to mock sources as a way of halting conversation. So now it's the thing to do. And let's be honest, Alex Jones is a compete nutjob. But every video I've watched of this particular guy is pretty much balls-on accurate and irrefutable, so when he starts making stuff up, then I'll ignore him.

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Someone explain to me why the US (or any Western country) should accept mass immigration from Muslim countries?

 

There are islands throughout the Mediterranean that could be used to provide temporary relief for these people, and a country like Greece could use the billions (trillions?) of dollars of aid they would receive as payment.

 

Yes and as gator always says - immigration helps grow the economy, like exponential growth. Greece could definitely benefit from that.

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