Maury Ballstein Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 dont fix things that are not broken Move on from our 7-9 past.
simpleman Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Lower our expectations LOL! If we lower the bar any lower than it has been for years, you won't even be able to slip a dime underneath it.
aristocrat Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 If our defense gets back to top 5 and our offense stays the same or better.
ROONDOGG55 Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Put almost everyone on the trade block. Trade for only picks. Trade: Tyrod Taylor (2 Rd Pick), LeSaun McCoy (4 Rd Pick), Sammy Watkins (2 Rd Pick), Cordy Glenn (1 Rd Pick), Richie Incognito (4 Rd Pick), Charles Clay (5 Rd Pick), Eric Wood (5 Rd Pick), Jerry Hughes (4 Rd Pick), Marcel Dareus (1 Rd Pick), Preston Brown (4 Rd Pick), Nickel Robey (5 Rd Pick), and tag and trade Stephon Gilmore (1 Rd Pick) Do not trade: John Miller, Shaq Lawson, Reggie Ragland, Adolphus Washington, or Ronald Darby. Cut high priced players with no trade value Kyle Williams, Corey Graham, Aaron Williams, and Dan Carpenter Trade down a few spots at a time during the draft. Someone will drop a 2018 1 Rd pick to jump up to pick 10, and will swap 2017 1 Rd picks. Trade down a spot at a time accumulating later Rd picks. Completely trade out of round 1 and attempt to acquire top three picks in second round and trade for future 1 Rd picks. Stock pile picks. Should have close to 10 1st Rd picks between 2018 and 2019 In total, we should have close to 20 picks in both 2018 and 2019 Sign veterans to two year prove it deals Include team option on second year as well as cap friendly 2nd year trade clause. With the amount of picks stocked up, we can make a move for just about any QB in the league and still have enough picks left to build around him. The rookie, and veteran deals will also help with all of the dead cap space over the next few years.
Bill from NYC Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Fire Whaley. The man is incompetent. It will take time for another GM to win. I get this but with Whaley there is no chance of building a good football team. Sad but true.
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Make the playoffs or develop a real qb or go 2-14 & get the #1 pick in the draft.
respk Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Start cardale, Get the highest 2018 draft pick as possible, select the best possible QB in the 2018 draft, move forward.
GunnerBill Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Draft DeShaun Watson at #10. McDermott produces a well coached and disciplined football team. That might still lead to only 6-8 wins in 2017 but will have us ready to make the leap in 2018.
bonechiller Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 OK, where's Senator; GO ...... 17-0 BABY
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 1) 8-8 record 2) Fewer than 20 guys on IR.
hondo in seattle Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 ... understand that we're not going to win many games, and use the year to develop for the future. - trade back and acquire extra draft picks - agree - start making free agent decisions with acquiring comp picks in mind - agree in concept. Franchise/extend Gilmore and you can let Woods walk, Z. Brown is gone - give up on Tyrod and save the money - as has been pointed out his contract number is not that high - let most of our expensive FAs go. I usually hate this, but our terrible cap status dictates getting back in good cap shape as one of our one or two highest priorities - our cap space is not terrible. Make smart choices and they will be fine. A. Williams may come off the books if he retires. KW only has a season left. Can restructure Dareus. If they sign Gilmore to a new deal his cap hit will be less than the tag. Lots of options. - draft an RT somewhat high - there are no RTs worth drafting in the first two rounds - draft for character and talent both - define character? If you mean a guy that dumps his pregnant girlfriend for a super model count me in. Draft for intelligence and talent. Character is a component but a distant third Marv once distinguished between 'character' and 'football character.' I don't remember exactly how he defined football character but we can all make a good guess: * practices hard * studies the playbook; knows his assignments * never late for meetings or practices * lays it all on the field during games * doesn't let his teammates down * no whining, complaining and other negativity when talking with teammates I don't know Brady the man enough to judge his off-field character. But he has 'football character' as did most of the Bills during Marv's tenure.
Thurman#1 Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) ... understand that we're not going to win many games, and use the year to develop for the future. - trade back and acquire extra draft picks - start making free agent decisions with acquiring comp picks in mind - give up on Tyrod and save the money - let most of our expensive FAs go. I usually hate this, but our terrible cap status dictates getting back in good cap shape as one of our one or two highest priorities - draft an RT somewhat high - draft for character and talent both . agree in concept. Franchise/extend Gilmore and you can let Woods walk, Z. Brown is gone as has been pointed out [Tyrod's] contract number is not that high our cap space is not terrible. Make smart choices and they will be fine. A. Williams may come off the books if he retires. KW only has a season left. Can restructure Dareus. If they sign Gilmore to a new deal his cap hit will be less than the tag. Lots of options. there are no RTs worth drafting in the first two rounds - define character? If you mean a guy that dumps his pregnant girlfriend for a super model count me in. Draft for intelligence and talent. Character is a component but a distant third It has indeed been pointed out that Tyrod's contract numbers are not that high. Wrongly. $40.5 mill - guaranteed - for two years on the roster .... is extremely high for Tyrod. Which is probably a lot of the reason he seems to be a bad bet to return. Disagree? Feel free to talk about it in some thread you won't be hijacking. And yes, our cap space is terrible. Not getting that is missing the point. 25th in the league. For a 7-9 team. If we'd been competitive, this would have been somewhat understandable. As it is, it's rotten planning. And we've got only $26 mill available with only 45 players signed, about 13 of whom are purely camp bodies like Logan Thomas, Cedric O'Neal, Charles Gaines, Joe powell, Max Valles, Josh Woodrum, Gerald Christian and Colt Anderson who will need to be replaced by more expensive guys who can play at an NFL level. We're in awful shape in terms of cap room and that's even if we don't sign guys like Gilmore, Corbin Bryant, Jordan Mills, Zach Brown, Robert Woods, Ihedigbo, Lorenzo Alexander, Douzable, Blanton, Cory White, Spikes, Gragg, Marquise Goodwin, Justin Hunter and Brandon Tate. And of course we will give offers to some of those guys, and down will go the available cap number. Oh, and as for no RTs in the first two rounds, that's nonsense. Ryan Ramczyk says hello and he could easily end up an RT. And I didn't say the first two rounds, I said "somewhat high." And character is what keeps you from getting a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty when your team is behind by two and driving at your opponent's 30 yard line when somebody punches you and the official doesn't see him do it. It's also what keeps you from getting long suspensions for marijuana on your blood tests, keeps you out of jail and in the lineup and gets you to meetings on time. If you want unaccountable slimeballs on your squad, fine. I don't. Nor did Bill Walsh and plenty of other great coaches. And while I'm answering you, I'm only doing it because you answered me. This thread asks for your prescription. Go ahead and give yours, and feel free to leave mine out. Edited February 21, 2017 by Thurman#1
CanadianFan Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 we don't draft any QB in first 3 rounds, lose most of the games and lands in top 5 for 2018 Draft.
GunnerBill Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Oh, and as for no RTs in the first two rounds, that's nonsense. Ryan Ramczyk says hello and he could easily end up an RT. And I didn't say the first two rounds, I said "somewhat high." So Ramczyk projects as a RT at the NFL level for me. I would just about be fine with him in the 2nd (I have a bang mid 2nd round grade on him) but he won't last that long. It is the same with Cam Robinson. I would consider takim him if he ends up there for us in the 2nd round, but he won't be. This is a really, really bad OT class and as a result I think teams will reach for the best of a bad bunch types in the back end of the 1st.
BillsFanInJax Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 1. If the Bills stopped selling to everybody that they are close to contending. No, they are not. 2. Tank, Bottom Out, Rebuild Through The Draft To be dominant after Brady retires. Brick by Brick. 3. Fire Doug Whaley 4. Draft "Blue Chip" play makers. 5. Draft a Franchise Quarterback and develop him.
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