Gary M Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 On 5/13/2020 at 3:30 PM, SectionC3 said: Which experts? The same ones Trump now ignores? If you consider 80k dead in this situation a success, then I can't help you. I'm sorry that you support a fake winner for president. I demand better. Expand How is he ignoring them, they wrote and published the phased reopening guidelines. A 95% decrease in deaths should definitely be considered a success.
Gary M Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 On 5/13/2020 at 6:34 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Expand In Creepy Joes defense, he had no idea what it meant. is now a good time to share this again? 2 4
Deranged Rhino Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 This is a very important point. Contractors were using some of these names to get clearances they did not have. Look at Power and compare to her testimony. It's all the way bad. 2
SectionC3 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 On 5/13/2020 at 5:12 PM, Doc said: So, IOW, it's exactly what SoCalDeek said ("starting his job a week early"). Again you conveniently dropped the "undermine" garbage because (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt) you realized that what Flynn did was in the best interest of America. And if you didn't come to that realization yourself...you're welcome. Expand Yeah, no. He's not allowed to act on behalf of America in that capacity until Trump is the president. There's your "undermine."
3rdnlng Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Flynn asked the Russian Ambassador to not have his country retaliate against this country. As a member of the Trump transition team he had every right to speak with the ambassador. That's not undermining. What is undermining is the former SoS visiting overseas with Iranians and encouraging them that Trump wouldn't be in office for long and the farce of a nuclear agreement between them and Obama/Kerry could be reactivated. Some people are so wrapped up in crossing the "t's" and dotting the "i's" that they don't even read the words. 6
daz28 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) On 5/13/2020 at 7:56 PM, 3rdnlng said: Flynn asked the Russian Ambassador to not have his country retaliate against this country. As a member of the Trump transition team he had every right to speak with the ambassador. That's not undermining. What is undermining is the former SoS visiting overseas with Iranians and encouraging them that Trump wouldn't be in office for long and the farce of a nuclear agreement between them and Obama/Kerry could be reactivated. Some people are so wrapped up in crossing the "t's" and dotting the "i's" that they don't even read the words. Expand That's what's dumb to me. So he called a regular season game call in the pre-season. Big deal. My big hang-up is why they/he(his lawyers) let them bully him so much. I'd have fought it even if I had a public defender, because I'd still have the press. I'm sure he'd have no problem picking up some cash from friends, political allies, heck even a go fund me Edited May 13, 2020 by daz28 1
Deranged Rhino Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 On 5/13/2020 at 8:06 PM, daz28 said: That's what's dumb to me. So he called a regular season game call in the pre-season. Big deal. My big hang-up is why they let them bully him so much. I'd have fought it even if I had a public defender, because I'd still have the press Expand But Flynn didn't have the press. The press was actively lying to the public about Flynn and Russia at that time. You're bad at this.
daz28 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 On 5/13/2020 at 8:07 PM, Deranged Rhino said: But Flynn didn't have the press. The press was actively lying to the public about Flynn and Russia at that time. You're bad at this. Expand Ya, cuz the top rated news network in the world hates Flynn, right? I'll bet you $50 I can turn on Fox right this minute and within 1 hour I'd hear his name. Care to wager? If I am wrong, then why isn't Fox covering the top stories? Is it because they're not even trash news? 1
Deranged Rhino Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 On 5/13/2020 at 8:10 PM, daz28 said: Ya, cuz the top rated news network in the world hates Flynn, right? I'll bet you $50 I can turn on Fox right this minute and within 1 hour I'd hear his name. Care to wager? If I am wrong, then why isn't Fox covering the top stories? Is it because they're not even trash news? Expand See, that's how asleep you are. You still think there's a difference between Fox and CNN. There isn't. Establishment media is controlled, and Fox was part of it. You're terrible at this. 3
billsfan1959 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 On 5/13/2020 at 6:45 PM, Gary M said: In Creepy Joes defense, he had no idea what it meant. is now a good time to share this again? Expand I never tire of seeing this 3
Deranged Rhino Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Cruz knows, and has known for 4 years, that his campaign was spied on as well. 2 2
daz28 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) On 5/13/2020 at 8:11 PM, Deranged Rhino said: See, that's how asleep you are. You still think there's a difference between Fox and CNN. There isn't. Establishment media is controlled, and Fox was part of it. You're terrible at this. Expand Fox supports 99% of your points, CNN goes against 99%. Let's take a trip back in time shall we. When Fox used to say the debt's too big, and you used to argue right along with them. Ahhh memory lane. Oh shoot I just won they said Flynn Edited May 13, 2020 by daz28 1
Deranged Rhino Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 On 5/13/2020 at 8:21 PM, daz28 said: Fox supports 99% of your points, CNN goes against 99%. Expand This is wrong. Look at the hard news vs opinion and you see it's not at all accurate. Paul Ryan is on the board now at Fox. That should tell you everything you need to know. (but it won't, because you're too dim to understand it) 2
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 On 5/13/2020 at 8:21 PM, daz28 said: Fox supports 99% of your points, CNN goes against 99%. Let's take a trip back in time shall we. When Fox used to say the debt's too big, and you used to argue right along with them. Ahhh memory lane. Oh shoot I just won they said Flynn Expand Fox runs stories 52% against Trump and the Trump Administration, 48% for Trump/Trump administration (those were the last stats I saw, you can find it if you look). That means they are pretty close to even, but they still report on Trump and the Trump administration negatively most of the time. You may mistakenly think they are "pro" Trump because they report some positive stories on Trump and the Trump administration vs the 90+% negative stories run by CNN and MSNBC. Now, if you want to point to a pro Trump/Trump administration, check out OANN. They are definitely pro Trump. 2 1
Doc Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 On 5/13/2020 at 7:09 PM, SectionC3 said: Yeah, no. He's not allowed to act on behalf of America in that capacity until Trump is the president. There's your "undermine." Expand Methinks you need to look up the definition of "undermine." That is unless (you think) Barry wanted Russia to escalate things rather than have the response be proportional, much less there be none. In which case Flynn only undermined Barry's attempts to ***** over America and the Trump administration, and good for him. But as was asked above: what about Lurch Kerry? You should be calling for him to be Logan'd. 1 1
SectionC3 Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 On 5/13/2020 at 9:09 PM, Doc said: Methinks you need to look up the definition of "undermine." That is unless (you think) Barry wanted Russia to escalate things rather than have the response be proportional, much less there be none. In which case Flynn only undermined Barry's attempts to ***** over America and the Trump administration, and good for him. But as was asked above: what about Lurch Kerry? You should be calling for him to be Logan'd. Expand Yeah, no. Flynn was out of line. Wasn’t his call to make and undermined the sitting administration.
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