Trump and Russia

[Deranged Rhino]

THIS is how CrowdStrike explains how the hack happened --- LAUGH it up. 

 

 

Think of how many screenshots that would be, think about how long that would take -- and how much time you'd have to be in the system without (per CrowdStike) leaving any evidence of your intrusion at all... 

 

It was all bull####. From the very start. 

 

The hack wasn't real. It was a leak. 

The Russia narrative wasn't real. It was projection/distraction. 

The media coverage was fake. They were in on it. 

 

And now you have certain posters still defending it. Still calling evidence like this "right wing" when it's anything but. Why do they do it? 

 

Because they're either still asleep, or are active enemies of the republic. Learn who they are. Learn who they're really supporting with these sorts of posts. And remember that it's the duty of the citizens to hold the government responsible. Some are willing to do that work... others are much more willing to be useful idiots for actual evil.

18 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

And yet volume II ends with no exoneration on obstruction. 

 

Volume 2 was the frame up, dumbass. 

 

It was also improper in its foundation, and described obstruction of a crime THEY KNEW did not happen before the probe even started. It's called, entrapment, *****head. 

[SectionC3]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

THIS is how CrowdStrike explains how the hack happened --- LAUGH it up. 

 

 

Think of how many screenshots that would be, think about how long that would take -- and how much time you'd have to be in the system without (per CrowdStike) leaving any evidence of your intrusion at all... 

 

It was all bull####. From the very start. 

 

The hack wasn't real. It was a leak. 

The Russia narrative wasn't real. It was projection/distraction. 

The media coverage was fake. They were in on it. 

 

And now you have certain posters still defending it. Still calling evidence like this "right wing" when it's anything but. Why do they do it? 

 

Because they're either still asleep, or are active enemies of the republic. Learn who they are. Learn who they're really supporting with these sorts of posts. And remember that it's the duty of the citizens to hold the government responsible. Some are willing to do that work... others are much more willing to be useful idiots for actual evil.

 

Volume 2 was the frame up, dumbass. 

 

It was also improper in its foundation, and described obstruction of a crime THEY KNEW did not happen before the probe even started. It's called, entrapment, *****head. 

 

That's the Washed up Psycho in you coming out again.  I also detect a hint of melting snowflake there.  And some hoax, as well.  

 

But let's play.  With your reference to entrapment I take it that you're saying that the Russia investigation afforded Trump the opportunity to commit an obstruction offense, right?

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, SectionC3 said:

 

That's the Washed up Psycho in you coming out again.  I also detect a hint of melting snowflake there.  And some hoax, as well.  

 

Says this about a congressional transcript taken under oath. 

 

Shows you exactly who he is.

 

[SectionC3]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Says this about a congressional transcript taken under oath. 

 

Shows you exactly who he is.

 

 

So where are we on entrapment?

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, SectionC3 said:

 

So where are we on entrapment?

 

Right where we were before. I'm right and you're wrong. 

 

Because I'm going off evidence and facts, you're going off FEELZ and what proven liars and manipulators have told you to think. 

[Doc]

21 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

And yet volume II ends with no exoneration on obstruction. "Being able to read . . ."  I'll let you finish.  

 

On Flynn, last I checked he pleaded guilty to violation of 18 USC 1001.  The information underlying that plea alleges that Flynn made false statements to the FBI.  "Facts aren't your friends when you don't know them."  But that's to be expected when you're on the Washed up Psycho list. 

 

https://www.lawfareblog.com/michael-flynn-plea-agreement-documents

 

https://www.lawfareblog.com/michael-flynn-plea-agreement-documents

 

Read and enjoy.  Paragraph 3d of the statement of offense (signed by Flynn and his counsels) is a pretty tough workaround for the fake news crowd here. 

 

You mean the "Flynn called the Russian ambassador and asked that Russia not to escalate the situation"?  Yeah, real damning stuff there.

 

Get over the 2016 elections.  Your girl lost.  Better luck in 2020.

[SectionC3]

Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Right where we were before. I'm right and you're wrong. 

 

Because I'm going off evidence and facts, you're going off FEELZ and what proven liars and manipulators have told you to think. 

 

Nice.  Hiding behind invective.  To be expected from a hoaxy washed up psycho.  Anyhow, I'll ask again.  Are you saying that the Russia investigation afforded Trump the opportunity to commit an obstruction offense?

 

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, SectionC3 said:

 

Nice.  Hiding behind invective.  To be expected from a hoaxy washed up psycho.  Anyhow, I'll ask again.  Are you saying that the Russia investigation afforded Trump the opportunity to commit an obstruction offense?

 

I'm saying that was the point of Mueller's probe. To lay a trap. He didn't walk into it. Not even the DOJ agreed he did. You're wrong. 

 

All the way. 

 

And you're showing how deeply stupid and programmed you actually are. 

[SectionC3]

Just now, Doc said:

 

You mean the "Flynn called the Russian ambassador and asked that Russia not to escalate the situation"?  Yeah, real damning stuff there.

 

Get over the 2016 elections.  Your girl lost.  Better luck in 2020.

 

That's kind of the point.  Flynn wasn't an administration official at that point.  Big no no on his part.  But the rule of law is a matter of convenience to Doc. 

Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I'm saying that was the point of Mueller's probe. To lay a trap. He didn't walk into it. Not even the DOJ agreed he did. You're wrong. 

 

All the way. 

 

And you're showing how deeply stupid and programmed you actually are. 

 

Was the point of Mueller's point to give Trump the opportunity to commit an obstruction offense?  I'll take it as a yes if I don't hear anything else on the matter. 

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, SectionC3 said:

 

That's kind of the point.  Flynn wasn't an administration official at that point.  Big no no on his part.  But the rule of law is a matter of convenience to Doc. 

 

Yes he was. He was the incoming NSC (which doesn't need approval from Senate and thus starts Day One), and was on the transition team. That makes him an official member of the administration. 

 

Again, you don't even know the basic FACTS you're trying to argue. 

 

Because you're a *****head. 

[SectionC3]

Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Yes he was. He was the incoming NSC (which doesn't need approval from Senate and thus starts Day One), and was on the transition team. That makes him an official member of the administration. 

 

Again, you don't even know the basic FACTS you're trying to argue. 

 

"Incoming" NSC.  And we weren't at Day One at that point in time.  Oops. 

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, SectionC3 said:

 

"Incoming" NSC.  And we weren't at Day One at that point in time.  Oops. 

 

The transition team are official members of the administration. You're wrong. 

 

All the way wrong. 

 

Now keep trying to squirrel your way out of it. 

 

Remember, the DOJ cleared Flynn of anything illegal on that call BEFORE the FBI interviewed him. That wasn't Trump's DOJ that cleared him... 

 

But again, when you don't know facts, you're left to argue feelz. And that's why you're utterly embarrassing yourself today. Keep it up. You're winning, truly  

[SectionC3]

So the problem with the "logic" of Washed up Psycho/Deranged Rhino on the entrapment issue is that entrapment is an affirmative defense that requires the proponent to establish, among other things, that the prosecutorial methods were designed to cause the proponent to commit a crime that he/she otherwise would not have committed. Essentially what WUS/DR is saying is that Trump wouldn't have been inclined to impede the Russia investigation if Mueller hadn't investigated it so aggressively.  Seems a bit unlikely given how touchy the prez is about Russia and how forceful he was with, among others, Comey, but hey, if you wanna take that one to a jury go nuts.  

4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

The transition team are official members of the administration. You're wrong. 

 

All the way wrong. 

 

Now keep trying to squirrel your way out of it. 

 

Remember, the DOJ cleared Flynn of anything illegal on that call BEFORE the FBI interviewed him. That wasn't Trump's DOJ that cleared him... 

 

But again, when you don't know facts, you're left to argue feelz. And that's why you're utterly embarrassing yourself today. Keep it up. You're winning, truly  

 

And was Flynn authorized to speak for Obama on that matter?  Nope.  Oops.  More fake logic from you, sir. 

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, SectionC3 said:

So the problem with the "logic" of Washed up Psycho/Deranged Rhino on the entrapment issue is that entrapment is an affirmative defense that requires the proponent to establish, among other things, that the prosecutorial methods were designed to cause the proponent to commit a crime that he/she otherwise would not have committed. Essentially what WUS/DR is saying is that Trump wouldn't have been inclined to impede the Russia investigation if Mueller hadn't investigated it so aggressively.  Seems a bit unlikely given how touchy the prez is about Russia and how forceful he was with, among others, Comey, but hey, if you wanna take that one to a jury go nuts.  

 

Incorrect. 

 

You're omitting cardinal facts because they're inconvenient to your narrative and you're full of *****. 

 

When you can't argue the facts of the matter (or don't know them as SectionC3 keeps proving he doesn't), then you must lie. 

[SectionC3]

Just now, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Incorrect. 

 

You're omitting cardinal facts because they're inconvenient to your narrative and you're full of *****. 

 

When you can't argue the facts of the matter (or don't know them as SectionC3 keeps proving he doesn't), then you must lie. 

 

Which facts are those, hoaxer? 

The logic is hilarious here.  "I was entrapped to obstruct an investigation into a crime I didn't commit! And I was entrapped on, like, seven occasions!"  

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Which facts are those, hoaxer? 

 

1) The FBI, DOJ knew months before Mueller was appointed that there was no "there there" to Trump/Russia.

2) The FBI, DOJ already cleared Flynn of criminal charges before Mueller's scope was extended to include him. 

 

The entire Mueller probe was designed to set up persons they knew to be innocent prior to the formation of the panel for purely political reasons. 

 

Those are inarguable. 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

So this is where all the people who supported Schiff admit they were wrong, right? 

 

Nah. Those posters won't do that. They're not honest or principled enough. In fact, most have chosen to remain willfully (and hilariously) ignorant on this topic because it's easier on their cognitive dissonance. 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

That's kind of the point.  Flynn wasn't an administration official at that point.  Big no no on his part.  But the rule of law is a matter of convenience to Doc.

 

So, IOW, it's exactly what SoCalDeek said ("starting his job a week early").  Again you conveniently dropped the "undermine" garbage because (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt) you realized that what Flynn did was in the best interest of America.  And if you didn't come to that realization yourself...you're welcome.

[Deranged Rhino]